Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Not really.
No relevance at all. 616 Galactus' death can cause the destruction of the entire Marvel Multiverse. That doesn't imbue 616 Galactus with a level of multiversal power. 616 may be the foundational pillar. But while taking out the single foundational pillar of a house with a sledgehammer might bring a whole house down, it doesn't mean that the sledgehammer has the destructive force of a wrecking ball.
Multi-Eternity is multiversal in power. No. Especially when the CCU's created that alternate dimension and the effects of the merger are completely contained within that single 616 universe. To my recollection, the term, "multiverse," and derivations thereof, was not used to describe the IG's power.However, I also think it's fair to point out that the scope of power demonstrated by variety of the things that the IG has done < the scope of power demonstrated by the few things that the UN has done.
Im going to give you a simple answer..
When the IG EFFORTESLY defeats Eternity(living embodiment of you know what), Death, and a well-fed Galactus along with a bunch of abstracts doesn't that tell you that its ATLEAST greater than one universe?
Originally posted by quanchi112You're still straw-manning and obfuscating the real issue. You're avoiding the simple logic and trying to compare how users wield artifacts rather than the artifacts itself. It's now painfully evident since you can't brinng yourself to address the issue directly: Does Magus stomping Quasar imbue the IG with multiversal relevance when it has no multiversal feats?
No, because the ig always will know the enemies first move because of the input gathered from the gems.You are raising a stink about the un affecting the mulitverse while the ig can pose a threat to the Lt who is the multiversal judge of all reality. That doesn't mean he can phase the Lt in any said reality but he can pose a threat in the ig's very own reality which is what I have been arguing the entire time.
Ig always shows up the un based on this badboy. Knows it opponents move always beforehand. Highest feats and capabilities, right?
Eternity=Infinity anyways so it's ludicrous to assume the ig wouldn't defeat Infinity in combat.
Ig>abstracts as proven in battle.
Living Tribunal can turn the Infinity Gauntlet "on" or "off." It's no threat to the Living Tribunal. Don't conflate Living Tribunal's statement that his confrontation with Adam Warlock would destroy the 616 Universe would mean that the Living Tribunal himself would be threatened. Absurd attenuation.
Utterly irrelevant when we're talking about which artifiact has the greater scope of power.
Never assumed so. I simply stated that the Infinity has never been defeated by the IG. Which is true and countered your erroneous position that it had. Don't put words into my mouth because you don't like admitting when you've stated a falsity.
Irrelevant.
Originally posted by galactusischereIt tells me it has power over that universe. Taking the proposition that having power over one universe and extending it to power over several universes and thus, over the entire multiverse is a complete attenuation that relies on pure wordplay and semantics.
Im going to give you a simple answer..
When the IG EFFORTESLY defeats Eternity(living embodiment of you know what), Death, and a well-fed Galactus along with a bunch of abstracts doesn't that tell you that its ATLEAST greater than one universe?
Originally posted by Mindset
Just post the scan.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It tells me it has power over that universe. Taking the proposition that having power over one universe and extending it to power over several universes and thus, over the entire multiverse is a complete attenuation that relies on pure wordplay and semantics.
Originally posted by galactusischereUh, that's saying he could destroy a solar system effortlessly.
http://img103.imageshack.us/i/im3jj5.jpg/
here you go
Originally posted by galactusischere616 Universe = everything in 616 Universe which includes each of those abstracts you listed. You're using semantics and wordplay to suggest that the sum of the parts is greater than the whole.
Eternity=power of atleast on universe
well fed Galactus=power of atleast one universe
Death=power of atleast one universe
other abstracts=power of atleast one universe
Originally posted by Mindset
Uh, that's saying he could destroy a solar system effortlessly.
Originally posted by galactusischereNo, it wouldn't be safe to assume that.
Ummm I didn't look at the scan, the thread starter had stated that it was capable of destroying a galaxy and I automatically assumed that the scan would prove that. But still if Impy was able to easily destroy a solar system which is ALOT smaller than a galaxy then it would be safe to say that he could not easily destory a galaxy.
That assumption doesn't make any sense at all.
Originally posted by Mindset
That assumption doesn't make any sense at all.
Why not?
If it was more powerful then to hype up the story Surfer would state that it would be able to destroy a galaxy with a thought. There are stars much bigger than our solar systems yet those stars are like ants to entire suns compared to the milky way.
Originally posted by galactusischerefacepalm
Why not?
If it was more powerful then to hype up the story Surfer would state that it would be able to destroy a galaxy with a thought. There are stars much bigger than our solar systems yet those stars are like ants to entire suns compared to the milky way.