Originally posted by OneDumbG0So Odin's more powerful then? The celestials can defeat Odin, but Odin's more powerful since they have never replicated this feat?
I don't understand why you still focus on Odin suddenly becoming more powerful. He sent reverberations through the multiverse before and after he got pwned by the Celestials. You're creating a false distinction. I'm not suggesting anything yet. I am asking you a pointed question and you likely have the foresight to see where it's going. So then: What proof do you have that Thanos was far more than Maelstrom?"Epic" is a misnomer for describing the black hole that Maelstrom created, deflecting from its atypical characteristics.
The term, "oxymoronic" has nothing to do with you being a moron or moronic. It is not a personal disparagement and speaks to your argumentation. If anything, it's an indication of irony. Save yourself the trouble. Don't cast aspersions on me when all you're doing is projecting yourself onto me.
The ig's on panel references, it's abilities, it's origins, and the fact an ig user has complete mastery of power itself.
The ig can replicate the black hole. Just saying.
I am just calling a spade a spade. You disagree with an on panel comparison, various statements, the ig having complete mastery of power itself, and the only thing you have is some feat in which the ig never attempted. Yeah, I think "we" won.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0feats in and of themselves aren't the ultimate determining factor. WB Hulk was the baddest Hulk I have ever seen personally and I didn't need to see him performing feat after feat to justify my reasoning. I understood the writer's purpose in the arc just like I wish you would do in the ig arc which had both the ig and the un.
Masterson Thor was killed by IG Thanos. And Masterson Thor's best feats are far below IG Thanos. That last fact is the important part. Sorry you keep trying to deflect from that.1. So what? I can defeat a rocket launcher user with a handgun by squeezing the trigger of a pistol. That doesn't inform the relative power between the two weapons.
2. No, he didn't. So what? IG Thanos has far greater feats.
Just because you've managed to confuse yourself, doesn't mean you're succeeding in confusing other people. Simple fact:
Instantly destroying/recreating/manipulating the Marvel Multiverse >>>>>>>> taking over single 616 universe.
Originally posted by xJLxKingWho does?
People view her as one of the most deadliest beings ever. Perhaps even higher then IG user 😉
Originally posted by quanchi112No. And none of that can possibly be extrapolated from my views.
So Odin's more powerful then? The celestials can defeat Odin, but Odin's more powerful since they have never replicated this feat?The ig's on panel references, it's abilities, it's origins, and the fact an ig user has complete mastery of power itself.
The ig can replicate the black hole. Just saying.
I am just calling a spade a spade. You disagree with an on panel comparison, various statements, the ig having complete mastery of power itself, and the only thing you have is some feat in which the ig never attempted. Yeah, I think "we" won.
Ha. Try as much as you want. Prove that IG-Thanos was superior than Maelstrom.
Likely.
What "you" have is: UN instantly destroys/recreates/manipulates Marvel Multiverse >>>>>>>> IG taking over single 616 universe.
Originally posted by quanchi112In this case, yes it is determinative when it comes to which artifact is more powerful and whether the 616 IG even approaches a multiversal power. And you couldn't help but ignore that the UN was never pitted against the IG's power or that later on, the UN prove itself capable of an exponentially far greater feat than the IG.
feats in and of themselves aren't the ultimate determining factor. WB Hulk was the baddest Hulk I have ever seen personally and I didn't need to see him performing feat after feat to justify my reasoning. I understood the writer's purpose in the arc just like I wish you would do in the ig arc which had both the ig and the un. Who does?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I already have. Thanos defeated eternity while an even more powerful Maelstrom was beaten by an avatar for Infinity. Even at his most powerful he wasn't as powerful as the ig.
No. And none of that can possibly be extrapolated from my views.Ha. Try as much as you want. Prove that IG-Thanos was superior than Maelstrom.
Likely.
What "you" have is: UN instantly destroys/recreates/manipulates Marvel Multiverse >>>>>>>> IG taking over single 616 universe. In this case, yes it is determinative when it comes to which artifact is more powerful and whether the 616 IG even approaches a multiversal power. And you couldn't help but ignore that the UN was never pitted against the IG's power or that later on, the UN prove itself capable of an exponentially far greater feat than the IG.
Scope has nothing to do with it. Never has never will.
Whether something is multiversal or universal it doesn't determine who is more powerful in a forum fight. Absolute power Eternity lusted after wasn't the un it was the ig.
Originally posted by Omega VisionYou seem to be unraveling and coming apart at the seams.
Will Quan please stop mentioning the Odin thing as if it means something? Christ how many times do you have to beat a dead horse before you're satisfied?
Originally posted by Omega VisionIf you want to debate then do so? your stand up comedy isn't funny.
I believe Quan is practicing Caveman necromancy. He hopes that by beating it enough it will rise as a zombie horse ready to do his bidding.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I already have. Thanos defeated eternity while an even more powerful Maelstrom was beaten by an avatar for Infinity. Even at his most powerful he wasn't as powerful as the ig.Scope has nothing to do with it. Never has never will.
Whether something is multiversal or universal it doesn't determine who is more powerful in a forum fight. Absolute power Eternity lusted after wasn't the un it was the ig.
You seem to be unraveling and coming apart at the seams. If you want to debate then do so? your stand up comedy isn't funny.
Whether or not my jokes are funny to you doesn't matter, they're not aimed for your amusement.
Originally posted by quanchi112So I guess IG-Thanos' best feat was greater than Maelstrom's best feat. So IG-Thanos > Maelstrom. Ok. I'll concede that. UN's best feat was exponentially far greater than IG-Thanos' best feat. So by your standards, UN >>>>>> IG. Excellent logic. Sound conclusion.
I already have. Thanos defeated eternity while an even more powerful Maelstrom was beaten by an avatar for Infinity. Even at his most powerful he wasn't as powerful as the ig.
Originally posted by quanchi112Scope of power is exactly what I'm debating. If you don't want to, then we can part ways.
Scope has nothing to do with it. Never has never will.Whether something is multiversal or universal it doesn't determine who is more powerful in a forum fight. Absolute power Eternity lusted after wasn't the un it was the ig.
This isn't about forum fights between UN-users and IG-users. It's about whether the IG could possibly even come close to matching the UN's power. And on-panel proof denies that fantasy.
Originally posted by Omega VisionThen I have turned you into a troll. A quan hating troll who won't face me in debate but will creep along the sidelines cracking one liners.
Debating with you has lost its luster. I've said all that needs to be said and at this point the debate has become circular to a nauseating degree.Whether or not my jokes are funny to you doesn't matter, they're not aimed for your amusement.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0It's not just a power feat thing which decided this. It's common sense followed along by Maelstrom not even being abstract level at this point in the story. To suggest he's more powerful than Thanos when the ig makes you supreme over any abstract is moronic.
So I guess IG-Thanos' best feat was greater than Maelstrom's best feat. So IG-Thanos > Maelstrom. Ok. I'll concede that. UN's best feat was exponentially far greater than IG-Thanos' best feat. So by your standards, UN >>>>>> IG. Excellent logic. Sound conclusion. Scope of power is exactly what I'm debating. If you don't want to, then we can part ways.This isn't about forum fights between UN-users and IG-users. It's about whether the IG could possibly even come close to matching the UN's power. And on-panel proof denies that fantasy.
The ig has complete mastery of all power so it is more powerful than the un in every way, shape, and form.
Originally posted by xJLxKingNo need to. My stance is the correct stance.
(many)...waiting for Quan to change his stance
Originally posted by quanchi112Actually... Maelstrom took Anomaly's position... so he was in fact abstract level at this point in the story. And it is moronic to think Maelstrom's more powerful than Thanos because Thanos has greater feats. I agree. Just as it is moronic to think IG's more powerful than UN because UN has exponentially greater feats. Good point. Solid logic. 👆
It's not just a power feat thing which decided this. It's common sense followed along by Maelstrom not even being abstract level at this point in the story. To suggest he's more powerful than Thanos when the ig makes you supreme over any abstract is moronic.The ig has complete mastery of all power so it is more powerful than the un in every way, shape, and form.
Except when it comes to certain things!
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Thanos was higher on the food chain. Maelstrom was weaker and wasn't even Oblivion level until he became his avatar.
Actually... Maelstrom took Anomaly's position... so he was in fact abstract level at this point in the story. And it is moronic to think Maelstrom's more powerful than Thanos because Thanos has greater feats. I agree. Just as it is moronic to think IG's more powerful than UN because UN has exponentially greater feats. Good point. Solid logic. 👆Except when it comes to certain things!
We saw Maelstrom defeated by far less than the ig. The ig was above the abstracts while Maelstrom never was.
Complete mastery of power. Power!!!
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I know. I already stated he was less powerful as the avatar as he was as an avatar of Oblivion. That's all in the story known as cosmos in collision. Everything I have stated is accurate based on this quasar storyline.
^ Maelstrom was Anomaly before becoming Oblivion's avatar. You should read the story.Maelstrom defeated himself. As far as we saw, IG had nothing on Maelstrom. And why do you think the IG above Abstracts? What possible facts do you have to conclude thusly?
Except when it doesn't.
If an ig blast is the best the ig can do it wouldn't also do squat against an all out Eternity. Reread warlock's series.
Warlock's words, it's place in reality, it's abilities, it defeating every abstract the ig faced without needing tears to perfect it.
Iyo an ig blast is the best the ig can do so to that I see reread all ig storylines and then follow that up with warlock and the infinity watch.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Then I have turned you into a troll. A quan hating troll who won't face me in debate but will creep along the sidelines cracking one liners.
So I wash my hands of this thread from now on. Have fun getting perpetually owned by ODG.
Originally posted by Omega VisionI have won this debate hands down. You are so bothered by me you've become a quan hater.
I could never be a troll like you. I lack your raw talent in that field.
But you are correct for once, my participation in this thread has turned to trolling which just proves that you bring out the worst in everybody with your lunacy.So I wash my hands of this thread from now on. Have fun getting perpetually owned by ODG.
Anyways, if you don't want to debate sit on the sidelines until you do.
Ig wins this thread anyways.
^ hysterical
Originally posted by quanchi112
I know. I already stated he was less powerful as the avatar as he was as an avatar of Oblivion. That's all in the story known as cosmos in collision. Everything I have stated is accurate based on this quasar storyline.If an ig blast is the best the ig can do it wouldn't also do squat against an all out Eternity. Reread warlock's series.
Warlock's words, it's place in reality, it's abilities, it defeating every abstract the ig faced without needing tears to perfect it.
If you had a point here, you have carefully buried it so that nobody could find it.
Words mean nothing, since everybody stated it made Thanos God or everything that is. But that's what THOTU did. You should know this. IG's "place in reality" is anomalous and what we're actually trying to prove, so stop assuming your conclusion. So you're using IG feats to conclude its more powerful than Abstracts? Makes sense. Guess we use UN's exponentially greater feats to conclude UN is exponentially greater than IG. Cogent theory. Reasonably unassailable.
Originally posted by quanchi112Iyo if Quasar's tiny null sphere is the best the UN can do so to that I see reread all UN storylines (particularly the Abraxas arc).
Iyo an ig blast is the best the ig can do so to that I see reread all ig storylines and then follow that up with warlock and the infinity watch.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0He wasn't abstract level as in Oblivion/Death/Eternity/Infinity level. You don't even understand my points half the time.
^ hysterical
Not really. Especially since you didn't think Maelstrom was Abstract level before dying. You were the opposite of accurate. You were wrong.If you had a point here, you have carefully buried it so that nobody could find it.
Words mean nothing, since everybody stated it made Thanos God or everything that is. But that's what THOTU did. You should know this. IG's "place in reality" is anomalous and what we're actually trying to prove, so stop assuming your conclusion. So you're using IG feats to conclude its more powerful than Abstracts? Makes sense. Guess we use UN's exponentially greater feats to conclude UN is exponentially greater than IG. Cogent theory. Reasonably unassailable.Iyo if Quasar's tiny null sphere is the best the UN can do so to that I see reread all UN storylines (particularly the Abraxas arc).
Except the ig easily also defeated and manipulated the un's energies with a thought on panel. LOL. Ig proved it's more powerful and that it can manipulate the power of the un at the ig user's will.
Nullifying something is nullifying something whether it's the milky way or the size of Montana.