Originally posted by Board Walker
The argument is in your perception, any destroying or domination of an argument is purely some thing you have conceived and chosen to believe in your own paradigm. I however do not share in your self fulfilled world and belief, nor am I influenced at all by your words or statement of self proclaimed victory in this so called "argument".
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Originally posted by ares834
Deadliest dosn't neccesarily mean greatest.
But he said this:
Originally posted by Board Walker
I see vaapad just as another form, a philosoph, not better or greater then any other.
He practically says that Vaapad is equal to the other forms. But when it is described as the deadliest, how can it be equal? A superlative doesn't mean something is equal to another.
So, if Vaapad is better or greater than even one of the other forms, say Shii-Cho for example, his statement would be false.
Originally posted by Board Walker
(darkness = momentum/leverage)
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
By redefining words I can prove that you are an apple (but that I am not).The set of people that posted in the SWVF at 07:24 PM (according to my timestamp) today under the name "Board Walker" includes only abecedarian logicians.
Abecedarian logicians are apples.
You are an apple.
Originally posted by EvilbigfootApparently you are unaware that the Edit function has a 15 minute window, and instead of posting your spelling corrections, you could simply edit your initial post.
Aparently you are unaware of the fact that "Edit" corrects spelling mistakes; Barbecue is a correct spelling, just not used correctly.
Originally posted by Evilbigfoot
Does it matter? I think not. I don't waste my life on fantasy (this site) as much as you, so I simply overlooked the "Edit Button."
Not as much as he does, but you do waste your time here though... That's just plain stupid, go get a life.
Spoiler:
Turnabout isn't fair when I'm already mocking myself, so don't try it.
Do something good, or don't do it at all. There's no point failing at shit you aren't going to take seriously.
Mace windu ****ing fantards!
Vaapad aint shit, maul used used form 7, windu used that same form and added his own personal touches to make vaapad, which can easily be outperformed by superior force wielders wielding superior precognition.
dooku wins, almost as strong in the force as anakin by the time of rots, stronger in the force than obi-wan, who blew greivous and his excess of 300 lbs droid body straight up into the air a good 15 feet, and who is also superior superior to mace windu in the force. mace windu didnt beat palps, he couldnt beat palps because sidious was fighting in slow motion on PURPOSE, its not a limit in technology when both anakin, dooku and obi-wan were fighting faster and more powerfly in their duel in episode II than windu did against palpatine in episode III, and fighting waay faster in episode III.
Notice how much more feroucious sidious was against yoda then against windu, you think that was cause he didnt have fan-made kyber crystal? wrong.
this duel wold be like chess, expect since dooku is stronger in the force he sees the ten or so moves ahead while windu only sees one move ahead, superior precognition, gave anakin, obi-wan, dooku, sidious and yoda better speed, power and equilibrium in lightsaber combat than windu and his vaapad skills.
Originally posted by \\S//
Mace windu ****ing fantards!
I can type [shift + 8] [shift + 8] [shift + 8] [shift +8] [ing] too.
Originally posted by \\S//
Vaapad aint shit, maul used used form 7, windu used that same form and added his own personal touches to make vaapad, which can easily be outperformed by superior force wielders wielding superior precognition.
You have left out one key fact:
Both Shatterpoint and the novelization of RotS both indicate that Vaapad is more than a slightly different series of slashes and blocks. There is a fundamentally unique metaphysical aspect-- this cannot be disputed.
dooku wins, almost as strong in the force as anakin by the time of rots, stronger in the force than obi-wan, who blew greivous and his excess of 300 lbs droid body straight up into the air a good 15 feet, and who is also superior superior to mace windu in the force.
You make a very insightful and well-reasoned point. The hordes of citations and reams of evidence you have supplied us with is a real credit to your intelligence and effort.
You have left out one key fact:
You have not provided any evidence that Obi-Wan is, in fact, more powerful in the Force than Windu, nor have you substantiated the relationship between Dooku and Skywalker's relative strengths in the force.
mace windu didnt beat palps, he couldnt beat palps because sidious was fighting in slow motion on PURPOSE, its not a limit in technology when both anakin, dooku and obi-wan were fighting faster and more powerfly in their duel in episode II than windu did against palpatine in episode III, and fighting waay faster in episode III.
You have left out one key fact:
The actors playing Mace Windu and Darth Sidious were both much, much older than those playing Kenobi and Skywalker. The actors chose (at the last minute) to portray their own characters in their battle, lessening the utility of digital manipulation and/or stuntmen in making the fight more impressive. The key assumption that you are relying upon-- that the fights Skywalker/Kenobi and Windu/Sidious are limited only by technology and in identical ways-- is flawed.
Notice how much more feroucious sidious was against yoda then against windu, you think that was cause he didnt have fan-made kyber crystal? wrong.
You have left out one key fact:
I have no idea what you are talking about because you have not provided any evidence or, hell, even context for this belligerent paragraph. I'm even lost as to the subject of your disdain; Among us, who has advocated the Kyber crystal (I'm not even sure what that is?) as an important factor in this fight?
this duel wold be like chess, expect since dooku is stronger in the force he sees the ten or so moves ahead while windu only sees one move ahead, superior precognition, gave anakin, obi-wan, dooku, sidious and yoda better speed, power and equilibrium in lightsaber combat than windu and his vaapad skills. [/B]
You make a very insightful and well-reasoned point. The hordes of citations and reams of evidence you have supplied us with is a real credit to your intelligence and effort.
You have left out one key fact:
Mace is noted to have a uniquely insightful method of viewing the Force; to argue that he is the least perceptive combatant is both unfounded and wrong. He is possibly the most adept at precog of the characters you've listed.
Misconcepted people who don't fully understand something that me and my superhero background specializes on, which happens the powers and abilities of jedi, believe that theyr fantasy conception of windu so-called "superior" force abilities of sidious (he'd have to be superior to beat palps in a lightsaber duel) wont even admit that it is a misguided vaguery of perception that their feeble intelects invented and took from what they viewed when watching the films.
and i dont know why you wankers dont pick yoda instead of windu for this misconception, hes visually the fastest and most powerful lightsaber duelist we see in episodes II and III, which have resources in making every lightsaber duel in the films, whereas IV, V, VI and I have less technology and different coreographyt altogether.
and as for lucas' commentaries windu overpowered sidious' 75% performance with his 100% performance, not a big deal.
when samuel claimed windu was "the second baddest jedi in the galaxy" as of episode II, he was refering to ranking, power wise the second baddest jedi was anakin, the third baddest was obi-wan and alas windu was the fourth baddest.
Originally posted by \\S//
Misconcepted people who don't fully understand something that me and my superhero background specializes on, which happens the powers and abilities of jedi, believe that theyr fantasy conception of windu so-called "superior" force abilities of sidious (he'd have to be superior to beat palps in a lightsaber duel) wont even admit that it is a misguided vaguery of perception that their feeble intelects invented and took from what they viewed when watching the films.
Edit: Forgive me. "Twelve year old superhero specialist.
and i dont know why you wankers dont pick yoda instead of windu for this misconception, hes visually the fastest and most powerful lightsaber duelist we see in episodes II and III, which have resources in making every lightsaber duel in the films, whereas IV, V, VI and I have less technology and different coreographyt altogether.
and as for lucas' commentaries windu overpowered sidious' 75% performance with his 100% performance, not a big deal.
You have left out one key fact:
You have not cited even a single source.
when samuel claimed windu was "the second baddest jedi in the galaxy" as of episode II, he was refering to ranking, power wise the second baddest jedi was anakin, the third baddest was obi-wan and alas windu was the fourth baddest.
I'm curious as to what part of whose argument you think this undermines. Would you tell me please?