However certain things worked, we have to actually see him Tk it, or use a spell on it before we know, the lollovelink squad seem to like claiming things that would make their characters look stronger even if its never really happened or if the event is ambigious, this castle being one of them. Majora whipping link another, Ganondorf and Midnas fight....
Sin does Link have any good durability or speed feats? how about strength because the infamous pillar only now gives him 75k joules (with difficulty), not that great a feat anymore lol.
Link's best durability feat is getting tossed several miles by an eexplosion at point blank range before smashing into the Tower of the Gods and then falling several stories into the water. Granted, this was Toon Link.
But, Ganondorf lifting his catsle via TK? He's never displayed that kind of ability before. I don't think he even has TK. The biggest stuff he's got is destroying the castles, breaking the Fused Shadows, and destroying Greatfish Isle.
But I still don't think anyone could steal Link's items if the invulnerablity ones are active. Most of them put barriers around him, excluding Magic Armor (TP), and the Cane of Byrna's shield actively harms whatever touches him.
Originally posted by The Scenario
Link's best durability feat is getting tossed several miles by an eexplosion at point blank range before smashing into the Tower of the Gods and then falling several stories into the water. Granted, this was Toon Link.But, Ganondorf lifting his catsle via TK? He's never displayed that kind of ability before. I don't think he even has TK. The biggest stuff he's got is destroying the castles, breaking the Fused Shadows, and destroying Greatfish Isle.
But I still don't think anyone could steal Link's items if the invulnerablity ones are active. Most of them put barriers around him, excluding Magic Armor (TP), and the Cane of Byrna's shield actively harms whatever touches him.
"sigh" ah well....by the sounds of it, toon or not the feat would not protect him from the PSI force on the edge of the swords by any of the characters here.
Considering the strongest thing he has been hit by canon is apprently that explosion when he was a toon, the swords and powers used by Dante/Bayonetta may break the shields, magic armour etc that Link uses.
Originally posted by Cyner
Here's some data, Link was strong enough to lift the 1000+ ton pillar and toss it easily backwards over his head. When Ganon was in beast form he was many many times stronger than Link and Link survived getting hit by the swords he was wielding.
From math in this thread, Link struggled to lift the 600 ton pillar. Using math you cannot calculate the throwing because its against physics you see. Although according to him lifting the pillar, he can exert about 4 times his own body weight in a punch....
Originally posted by The Scenario
The Golden Guantlets, Power Bracelets, etc. only translate into lifting power, though. His sword strikes never noticibly increase in power when he gets strength increasing stuff.
Game mechanic, even when he has considerable power without augmentation in Twilight Princess your attacks never send enemies flying unless it's certain attacks. Even then with the amount of strength he has they never fly that far.
Also in reference to the pillar falling over because Link doesn't have enough weight behind him, the same could be said for any of our heroes. There has to be some suspension of disbelief to be able to say that Kratos has the strength to trip up the colossus of rhodes while only being about 200 pounds himself. No one argues that he has done it but we're gonna have to call his strength and that of all the other characters in the thread "magic". You might say "Well Link's lifting feat is determined by the physics that are broken through that cutscene" however so is the strength of all the other characters in the thread, it's by physics that we know the strength of each one of them, the weight of the objects that we outline in each feat.
Link does have the strength to lift the 1000 ton pillar, and using that magic strength doesn't topple over somehow.
Knowing that Ganondorf is normally stronger than Link even with the Golden Gauntlets and many times stronger in his Ganon form. Link having taken hits from him is a durability feat. Even what seems to be Link's weakest incarnation, Wind Waker Link has taken hits from Ganon, and come back to beat him. The same Ganon who destroyed an entire island while most of his power was sealed by the Master Sword.
Originally posted by The Scenario
But, Ganondorf lifting his catsle via TK? He's never displayed that kind of ability before. I don't think he even has TK.
Ganondorf actually has TK, as seen by Zant who used a fraction of his power. But, it's not Mewtwo TK.
Originally posted by Cyner
When Ganon was in beast form he was many many times stronger than Link and Link survived getting hit by the swords he was wielding.
Link had bottled fairies. Guess what those were for.
Originally posted by Cyner
Knowing that Ganondorf is normally stronger than Link even with the Golden Gauntlets and many times stronger in his Ganon form.
Ganondorf is nowhere as strong as Link w/ Golden Gauntlets. That's why he fought him from a distance until he transformed. At most, he's at the strength level of the silver gauntlets (which allowed Link to lift boulders). Where do you Link fans come with up these ludicrous fiction?
Link having taken hits from him is a durability feat.
If he was canonically hit, he was most likely slaughtered and then revived by a fairy. Besides, OoT Ganon is a slow beast who leaves himself vulnerable after being shot with a light arrow.
Even what seems to be Link's weakest incarnation, Wind Waker Link has taken hits from Ganon, and come back to beat him. The same Ganon who destroyed an entire island while most of his power was sealed by the Master Sword.
There's no proof that Ganondorf destroyed the island with super strength. Looking at the times he destroyed his castle and Hyrule's, it was most likely an act of magic.
Originally posted by Phanteros
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Link has very few feats that cannot be explained by game mechanics, toon force, etc. so how do we plan to determine what he can or cannot use? If you want to go by cutscenes, I've never seen it take more than three hits of the Master Sword kill Ganon. In OoT, it's two slashes and a stab. In WW, one slash, one stab. In TP, only one stab. Everything else (i.e. the boss fights), is just game mechanics.
Link has been beaten senseless by Ganondorf, too. A small blast in OoT, and a few punches in WW. On the other hand, he's also been tossed almost half the length of the ocean by a point blank explosion, only to slam headfirst into both the Forsaken Fortress and the Tower of the Gods. Toon Force or legitimate feat? We know Ganondorf is weilding island destroying magic, so one hit really should kill Link. He also tends to weild swords larger than Link is tall.
I for one doubt that Link would defeat Ganondorf without taking a single hit, even though a single hit would be all it would take to kill him. You really can't argue that Ganondorf is slow enough for Link to dodge, either. In OoT, Ganon attacks too quickly for Link to dodge or block and knocks the Master Sword out of his hand. In WW, he does the same with some punches. But immediately after this, Link kills him in both instances. Right before both battles, Ganondorf quite cleary establishes that he's fast and strong enough to kill Link instantly. Right after, Link kills him instantly. It simply shouldn't work like this.
It's inconsistent, is what it is. Often in the same scene. Fairies aren't enough to explain stuff like this, and if we're arguing canon, Link has never needed one. Their revival ability would be just as much game mechanics as the invincibility items or heart containers. So I want to know: what counts as canon here?