Originally posted by Mindset
You mean aside from the fact that he could reform and would be completely unharmed?
Thats what I have always been interested in finding out.
If you shatter Bobby in space then either heat blasts (Supes) or just Thunderclap your hands ( Diana) the particles. They would need an equal amount to reform Bobby, and a decent amount to be effective in mist form. The vacuum of space plus no moisture should kill Bobby. Shouldn't it?
how is movemnt speed related to brain activity speed?
anyway this is not a "read? - draw!" type of fight. The only way for Diana to win is to start with a blitz and instaed of punching to lasso boby and all these assuming she gets to act before him.
seeing there are more oponnents in boby's team he ahs to be her first choise.
Well IMO the chance of all the above happening is slim
Originally posted by Warlord
how is movemnt speed related to brain activity speed?
to initiate movement, the brain is needed.
anyway this is not a "read? - draw!" type of fight. The only way for Diana to win is to start with a blitz and instaed of punching to lasso boby and all these assuming she gets to act before him.
seeing there are more oponnents in boby's team he ahs to be her first choise.
Well IMO the chance of all the above happening is slim
i wasn't arguing any of that. only that she was faster. which she is.
Theories of her taking him to space is ridiculous. How ofthen does she do that? When was the last time shes done that? And when she did do it, how long was she in the fight in the first place? C'mon now.
IF she initially sees him as the main threat, her first act would most likely be to blitz with a punch or kick. Wll it shatter him? Probably, but as we all know, after than happening, iceman can immediately manipulate the moisture in her body. She wouldnt be expecting that at all nor have a defense for it.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Theories of her taking him to space is ridiculous. How ofthen does she do that? When was the last time shes done that? And when she did do it, how long was she in the fight in the first place? C'mon now.IF she initially sees him as the main threat, her first act would most likely be to blitz with a punch or kick. Wll it shatter him? Probably, but as we all know, after than happening, iceman can immediately manipulate the moisture in her body. She wouldnt be expecting that at all nor have a defense for it.
agreed
Originally posted by Warlord
yes but the fact that you are faster than me when we run for example does not mean that your brain moves faster than mine...that's all I say
Depends how fast you can run. At WW speeds, she needs super reaction time and reflexes to maneuver. Imagine you are driving a car at 300mph, you'd be alright going in a straight line, getting you to maneuver through traffic with only human reaction time/reflexes? Impossible.
Originally posted by Placidity
Depends how fast you can run. At WW speeds, she needs super reaction time and reflexes to maneuver. Imagine you are driving a car at 300mph, you'd be alright going in a straight line, getting you to maneuver through traffic with only human reaction time/reflexes? Impossible.
no, you need much faster tahn human reaction which according to emma frost iceman possesses also.
Plus it's not a one vs one she has 6 trgets while bobby has only two or one since he can focus to both at the same time
Originally posted by Warlord
no, you need much faster tahn human reaction[...]
So you start by saying "no", then continue to agree with me. Okay then.
Originally posted by Warlord
[...] which according to emma frost iceman possesses also.
To what extent? Superman level? Righto.
Originally posted by Warlord
Plus it's not a one vs one she has 6 trgets while bobby has only two or one since he can focus to both at the same time
If she went all out at start, he wouldn't even have time to register what was going on.
Originally posted by Placidity
If she went all out at start, he wouldn't even have time to register what was going on.
Okay, Say your right she starts off the bat with a speedblitz at KIlling Levels (because thats what she does right? and all the time... 🙄). Do you think WW would 1st use the "im gonna throw a lasso on iceman and bfr him ASAP" move (because again thats what she always does also with only having a basic information on a foe ) 🙄
Lets atleast entertain your 1st thought, If WW really speed blitzed everyone by punching and kicking. Bobby body would get destroyed no doubt but after seeing his team go down so fast, don't you think he would do something drastic while not in a body. Such as killing the the people who killed his team.
Originally posted by Warlord
yes but the fact that you are faster than me when we run for example does not mean that your brain moves faster than mine...that's all I say
if i can make adjustments and react faster than you can, it does, though.
Originally posted by Warlord
so I guess Bobby's brain is slower just because he doesn't have superspeed.
ok...
no. its slower because he doesn't have nearly the amount of reflex feats she does.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Theories of her taking him to space is ridiculous. How ofthen does she do that? When was the last time shes done that? And when she did do it, how long was she in the fight in the first place? C'mon now.IF she initially sees him as the main threat, her first act would most likely be to blitz with a punch or kick. Wll it shatter him? Probably, but as we all know, after than happening, iceman can immediately manipulate the moisture in her body. She wouldnt be expecting that at all nor have a defense for it.
Her taking him into space is ridiculous. However, if she lasso's him then she doesn't need to do anything else. He's down for the count.
I also think people are underestimating how smart and tactical a fighter WW is. She may not know the full extent of Bobby's powers from the get go, but it won't take her long to figure it out. She *will* lasso him eventually and I believe that it will happen before Bobby can do any permanent damage to Diana.
This is of course speculation on my part but with basic knowledge of all the x-men, I think Diana and Bruce would put Bobby at the top of the list to take down first. Wolverine and Gambit pose no threat to Diana and Bats could handle 1 of them for a while on his own. Cyclops, while powerful, can be dealt with with the bracers. Colossus is a brick and WW is used to dealing with far more dangerous bricks. I would give runner-up to Nightcrawler. Why? Because he and Iceman would provide the biggest tactical challenges. A guy who can teleport around and a guy who can freeze molecules are not people you want running around when you are outnumbered.
And is Bobby this hardened killer that some posters are portraying? Is he going to come out of the box trying to freeze internal organs? Will he start out a fight in mist form? (I'm not being rhetorical. I'm really asking.) I agree that WW won't start off using strength levels as if she were fighting Superman, but is Bobby starting off like that as well? I ask because I think the X-men's best chance is for Bobby to kill WW right from the whistle blow. If he doesn't, I don't see him getting an advantage on her. Once she's taken out some of his teammates, he won't have the element of surprise. And if he gos into mist form, I'm inclined to believe the Eyes of Pallas would still allow her to see him and the lasso would be able to target his soul.
And just out of personal curiosity, does anyone have the scan of Killer Frost freezing Diana?