Originally posted by Endless Mike
In WWH when he used the Zom fragment he said that Zom was the deadliest enemy he ever defeated
Obviously bad writing because Stephen Strange's statement is contradicted immediately after by still being defeated by WWH after fusing with the power of Zom. 😆
Yet Strange fused with the power of Shuma-Gorath was enough to destroy galaxies just by being in the vicinity... 😎
Originally posted by CortSether
I realize this, obviously. But if Zom was so powerful then a tiny fraction of that power should have easily overwhelmed WWH who isn't even close to God level.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Answer me this. Has the LT ever appeared because of Shuma without being summoned?Zom has.
Shuma is a chaos lord and is part of the balance between chaos and order and its presence isn't breaking any rules in that balance. LT would have no reason to try and stop Shuma. Zom was a creation and was unnatural and therefore upset that balance.
Besides, Sise-Neg had already banished Shuma-Gorath to another dimension previously. Also, after Doc Strange proved himself to LT it was pretty self-explanatory that LT would have no reason to show up again no matter what was going on.
Originally posted by CortSether
Shuma is a chaos lord and is part of the balance between chaos and order and its presence isn't breaking any rules in that balance. LT would have no reason to try and stop Shuma. Zom was a creation and was unnatural and therefore upset that balance.Besides, Sise-Neg had already banished Shuma-Gorath to another dimension previously. Also, after Doc Strange proved himself to LT it was pretty self-explanatory that LT would have no reason to show up again no matter what was going on.
Shuma in no way plays a role in balancing order and chaos. If that were true, the LT would show up every time he got into our dimension. Zom was banished by the LT because he upset the balance.
Zom would shred Shuma like a piece of wet toilet paper.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Shuma in no way plays a role in balancing order and chaos. If that were true, the LT would show up every time he got into our dimension. Zom was banished by the LT because he upset the balance.Zom would shred Shuma like a piece of wet toilet paper.
Sure Shuma does. That's why Shuma doesn't die but just reassembles in its dimension from seeming destruction. It's a part of the balance between chaos and order. Besides, Shuma wasn't trying to destroy our dimension he was just there to rule it and feed on people. Zom was trying to destroy it because that's what its creator intended him to do, just destroy things.
And no, Zom would not do jack to Shuma.
Zom and easily. Zom would screw up just about anything below Eternity level. I've said this before that Zom could screw up Galactus if big G doesn't go for the topknot and get LT or Eternity's help. That's right I said it, again.
P.S. I also think big G could contain Zom in another dimension since he's shown the abilty to travel and access other dimensions. Not trying to derail : ), really.
Originally posted by Kasper Gutman
Zom and easily. Zom would screw up just about anything below Eternity level. I've said this before that Zom could screw up Galactus if big G doesn't go for the topknot and get LT or Eternity's help. That's right I said it, again.P.S. I also think big G could contain Zom in another dimension since he's shown the abilty to travel and access other dimensions. Not trying to derail : ), really.
I wonder how you think that especially since Zom had a hell of a time trying to even kill the Ancient One. And Dormammu was able to put him in chains, so...
Originally posted by CortSether
Sure Shuma does. That's why Shuma doesn't die but just reassembles in its dimension from seeming destruction. It's a part of the balance between chaos and order. Besides, Shuma wasn't trying to destroy our dimension he was just there to rule it and feed on people. Zom was trying to destroy it because that's what its creator intended him to do, just destroy things.And no, Zom would not do jack to Shuma.
So because he can reform in his own dimension, he plays a vital role? Nice logic.
Yes, Zom is many tiers above Shuma.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
So because he can reform in his own dimension, he plays a vital role? Nice logic.Yes, Zom is many tiers above Shuma.
All of the chaos lords play a vital role. They oppose the order in the universe. It's like it's their job.
Zom has shown nothing to suggest him being as high a tier as you claim.