Tidus Vs. Vaan

Started by GrieverSquall15 pages

Maybe you are right.

So is it safe to say this discussion is over? Unless someone has anything else to add, for the moment it stands at: No Conclusion Possible.

Agreed.

Tidus beats Van for being a little less gay.

Vaan beats Tidus for being less, less, LESS selfish.

Tidus beats Vaan for being at least remotely important to the story line.

Vaan beats Tidus for being entirely more important than Tidus in his sequel.

That no one played.

At least FFX was a good game and just had a shitty sequel, XII sucked from the start.

Who cares.

Agreed. Final Fantasy X is better than Final Fantasy XII. But his sequel didn't ruined his previous game, at least.

No, the first game did that on its own. 131

Not really. Final Fantasy XII wasn't the greatest one, but it is not bad as Final Fantasy X-2.

Tidus would win because he doesn't need a license to cut someones head off.

Really? This is still going on? And to think people are complaining about the Zack vs Jecht thread being a drag.

Final Fantasy XII was most likely an experiment gone wrong, so I tend to cut it some slack. Final Fantasy X marked the beginning of the end for powerful foes; Sin was great but Vayne sucked. However Gabranth and Dr.Cid own every villian in X(fanboyism).

Well XII wasn't all bad since critics loved it;mostly everyone that played it wouldn't so much as fart in it direction though. X was beloved by people who played it but wasn't given above and beyond credit.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Really? This is still going on? And to think people are complaining about the Zack vs Jecht thread being a drag.

Final Fantasy XII was most likely an experiment gone wrong, so I tend to cut it some slack. Final Fantasy X marked the beginning of the end for powerful foes; Sin was great but Vayne sucked. However Gabranth and Dr.Cid own every villian in X(fanboyism).

Well XII wasn't all bad since critics loved it;mostly everyone that played it wouldn't so much as fart in it direction though. X was beloved by people who played it but wasn't given above and beyond credit.

Actually, it pretty much ended a while ago. Now we are just insulting the characters.

Call FFXII an experiment if you want, I call it an abomination. There was absolutely no redeeming qualities about that game. It remains the only FF game I simply couldn't finish. Apart from the ones I never played, obviously.

FFX was on to something. They had finally did a summon system that allowed you to take control of the summons. I had been waiting for that for a while. Plus, they allowed you to switch characters in the middle of battle, and fluently to. They were on their way to perfecting the turn based combat system. Then FFXII came along, grabbed the FF battle system, tied it to a chair and shot gunned it in the face.

What was left was this pathetic, mutilated attempt at a less RPG RPG battle system. Whats worse, they spent so much time trying to perfect this new battle system, that they screwed over practically every OTHER aspect of the game. So the game just didn't work at all in general.

Tidus wins because his game WASN'T an awkward rendition of half naked little boys running around with princesses for no apparent reason while they try to figure out the sub-par plot as the characters flip in and out of importance like some FF version of whack a mole, all the while fighting through a battle system that is actually more dangerous to the player than the characters since it makes you want to repeatedly slam your head into the closest sharp object until you loose consciousness.

I refuse to let anyone bash Dr.Cid and Gabranth without at least a fight. Everything else in that game is ready for open fire though.

Final Fantasy X was good from what I heard (I only played X-2). I do wonder what type of battle system XIII will have. Are they going back to the turn system or having a real-time combat system(the trailer throws me off).

Since I'm here I'll just make fun of Vaan and Penelo for being...just there. What was the point of Penelo's existance? Why is Vaan even there? Why didn't they just give XII a real-time battle system; wouldn't have been expected from the franchise but at least people wouldn't have to go to the hospital for relief. The puzzles in XII were just retarded not only because they were time consuming but you had no idea that the puzzle or challenge actually existed. I didn't even know there was an Omega model until I saw a walkthrough for XII.

But there was something about that game that can't make me feel pasionate hatred towards it like everyone else(Fran).

I must admit that Final Fantasy XII isn't the best Final Fantasy game so far, but there you have a lot of positives aspects about the design, the graphics, the effects, giant maps, realistic characteristics, realistic battles, etc. Is just realist. If we talk about the characters well... That was lame.

Oh... And Vaan wins because he isn't a crybaby like some selfish athlete.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I refuse to let anyone bash Dr.Cid and Gabranth without at least a fight. Everything else in that game is ready for open fire though.

Final Fantasy X was good from what I heard (I only played X-2). I do wonder what type of battle system XIII will have. Are they going back to the turn system or having a real-time combat system(the trailer throws me off).

It's not turn based really, but it's not FFXII. It's more like FFX-2, but you only control one character at a time, instead of the party. It's going to be lame, make no mistake.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Since I'm here I'll just make fun of Vaan and Penelo for being...just there. What was the point of Penelo's existance? Why is Vaan even there? Why didn't they just give XII a real-time battle system; wouldn't have been expected from the franchise but at least people wouldn't have to go to the hospital for relief. The puzzles in XII were just retarded not only because they were time consuming but you had no idea that the puzzle or challenge actually existed. I didn't even know there was an Omega model until I saw a walkthrough for XII.

They don't explain ANYTHING in that game. In order to get the best weapon, you actually can't open these specific treasure chests located throughout the game. They designed it so you would need the strategy guide, and they weren't even subtle about it. The only thing moderately good about the game WAS Fran. He voice was pretty cool. They could have taken all the scenes of her talking and made just that the game and it would have been better than that monstrosity.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
I must admit that Final Fantasy XII isn't the best Final Fantasy game so far, but there you have a lot of positives aspects about the design, the graphics, the effects, giant maps, realistic characteristics, realistic battles, etc. Is just realist. If we talk about the characters well... That was lame.

Unfortunately those do not make up for everything else. You could have the prettiest game in the world, but if everything else about it sucks, then the game sucks.

Unfortunately, that's my opinion, for me the game isn't the best but it doesn't sucks either.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Unfortunately, that's my opinion, for me the game isn't the best but it doesn't sucks either.

Indeed, and I was stating my opinion that it does. A pretty game doesn't make a good game, if you ask me.

As I haven't played FFXII, I shall compare what I can judge from these two.

Their looks.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall

Vaan's pretty hot. Tidus is not.
Vaan wins.