Sentry vs Flash (Wally)

Started by Starscream M7 pages

Originally posted by -K-M-
Once again missed the point.

Could Sentry defeat Thor? Maybe? but as I said we DON'T KNOW HIS POWER LEVEL.

ok, we don't know his exact power level...but to me its clear his powerlevel is herald class or higher (most likely higher).

does it fluctuate? yes. does he have low showings? yes.

but thats true of all characters. Sentry seems to be pretty high level herald to me.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ok, we don't know his exact power level...but to me its clear his powerlevel is herald class or higher (most likely higher).

does it fluctuate? yes. does he have low showings? yes.

but thats true of all characters. Sentry seems to be pretty high level herald to me.

I agree I do think he is herlad level, but we still don't know exactally where he stands and that's the point.

Originally posted by -K-M-
I agree I do think he is herlad level, but we still don't know exactally where he stands and that's the point.
agreed

I think Marvel created him as a Superman type character (they're very similar) on marvel earth

Now back to the Flash.....

Originally posted by the ninjak
Now back to the Flash.....

He gets ripped in half.

Originally posted by "Id"
He gets ripped in half.

😱 I'd buy that comic.

Though we still haven't confirmed if Sentry is as manoeuvrable as Flash while moving at those speeds. Some scans would solidify this fight.
We know he has burst speed that can reach speed of light, but can he finely dodge and focus while at that speed?

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Also if i remeber right Sentry was in mid-sentence on earth and finished he sentence after he tossed Void into the sun

I can I just re-iterate something that I have mentioned about a BILLION times now. U cannot prove something with a contradiction. Any half witt A-Level philosopher can tell u that.

Speaking in space is impossible in the real world, so speculating about how it works in a comicbook universe is meaningless. U can't use the well its a comic book so sounds does work in space, arguments and then apply the real world speed of sound, later on to warrant your proposition. IT just doesn't work like that. This is what is reffered to as having your cake and eating it.
Its like saying; in quantum mechanics there seem to be scenarios where the rules of standard logic are violated, therefore there must be square triangles. It doesn't work like that, your conclusion doesn't follow from your propositions, and its consequently invalid.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
I can I just re-iterate something that I have mentioned about a BILLION times now. U cannot prove something with a contradiction. Any half witt A-Level philosopher can tell u that.

Speaking in space is impossible in the real world, so speculating about how it works in a comicbook universe is meaningless. U can't use the well its a comic book so sounds does work in space, arguments and then apply the real world speed of sound, later on to warrant your proposition. IT just doesn't work like that. This is what is reffered to as having your cake and eating it.
Its like saying; in quantum mechanics there seem to be scenarios where the rules of standard logic are violated, therefore there must be square triangles. It doesn't work like that, your conclusion doesn't follow from your propositions, and its consequently invalid.

WTF are you talking about this has nothing to do with the sound of speed.

If takes how long to say a sentence 10-15 sec. if that.

Even if it took the sentry a 1 min to say that sentence He travel to the sun in that time even if it took 5 mins that is still FTL

FYI it takes light 8 mins to reach the earth from the sun so unless Sentry took 8 mins to speak he went FTL

Originally posted by DarkOdin
WTF are you talking about this has nothing to do with the sound of speed.

If takes how long to say a sentence 10-15 sec. if that.

Even if it took the sentry a 1 min to say that sentence He travel to the sun in that time even if it took 5 mins that is still FTL

FYI it takes light 8 mins to reach the earth from the sun so unless Sentry took 8 mins to speak he went FTL

What people don't understand is speed is not important but rather both acceleration and reflexes are important instead.

Anyone that can fly can achieve any speed as long as they have the time to accelerate to that speed. That means a lowly character can achieve a billions times faster than light provided they accelerate to that speed under the sufficient time.

The true question is 'what speed and reflex ability can someone achieve in BATTLE DISTANCE'. For example, at one time I precisely calculated Silver Surfer's speed at the end of the first 3 meters of travel by assuming he had a constant acceleration (pushing forward with a constant force), and it was no where near light speed.

Sentry has superhuman speed and reflexes and can achieve any speed (provided he uses enough time to achieve that speed) but it is fair to say that within the first microsecond (or even nanosecond) he can't achieve anywhere the speed nor have anywhere the reflexes that flash can, especially in battle.

Originally posted by h1a8
What people don't understand is speed is not important but rather both acceleration and reflexes are important instead.

Anyone that can fly can achieve any speed as long as they have the time to accelerate to that speed. That means a lowly character can achieve a billions times faster than light provided they accelerate to that speed under the sufficient time.

The true question is 'what speed and reflex ability can someone achieve in BATTLE DISTANCE'. For example, at one time I precisely calculated Silver Surfer's speed at the end of the first 3 meters of travel by assuming he had a constant acceleration (pushing forward with a constant force), and it was no where near light speed.

Sentry has superhuman speed and reflexes and can achieve any speed (provided he uses enough time to achieve that speed) but it is fair to say that within the first microsecond (or even nanosecond) he can't achieve anywhere the speed nor have anywhere the reflexes that flash can, especially in battle.

Which is why i stated that it was FTL travel speed and that we had no shwoing that 100% proves he is moving FTL in combat but that IMO he was is close and it is in his power set but some people just jump in on a post without looking at the pages before or just want to comment for whatever reason "this is not directed at you"

Sentry

Originally posted by Starscream M
not really a mystery

his powerlevels are damn high...bit1n terrax, taking down WWHulk after the entire marvel earth failed, taking on thor, etc

I agree. his power levels are off the charts and the writer has had multiple characters state they don't know his upper limits. Also, just because Sentry only rearranged one character's molecules it's just foolish to expect to see this tactic again and again.

For instance look at the number of times Thor has faced a threat and the number of times he has used the godblast. Comics become boring if they bring out their best every fight.

Originally posted by h1a8
What people don't understand is speed is not important but rather both acceleration and reflexes are important instead.

Anyone that can fly can achieve any speed as long as they have the time to accelerate to that speed. That means a lowly character can achieve a billions times faster than light provided they accelerate to that speed under the sufficient time.

The true question is 'what speed and reflex ability can someone achieve in BATTLE DISTANCE'. For example, at one time I precisely calculated Silver Surfer's speed at the end of the first 3 meters of travel by assuming he had a constant acceleration (pushing forward with a constant force), and it was no where near light speed.

Sentry has superhuman speed and reflexes and can achieve any speed (provided he uses enough time to achieve that speed) but it is fair to say that within the first microsecond (or even nanosecond) he can't achieve anywhere the speed nor have anywhere the reflexes that flash can, especially in battle.

i kno he is not as fast flash combat speed wise but he has been seen to move quite fast...in the comic when punisher tried to assassinate osborne and also when to void tried to shoot somebody at point blank range.

so it not like he doesnt have fast limb speed

Any of the Flashes would spank Sentry

Sentry has never gone light speed once in his pathetic career

Wally either steals his speed or leaves him a weeping mess trapped in the speed force

Originally posted by Truthslayerxx
Any of the Flashes would spank Sentry

Sentry has never gone light speed once in his pathetic career

Wally either steals his speed or leaves him a weeping mess trapped in the speed force

Wrong wrong wrong.
And how pray tell would Flash actually keep Sentry down?
Please read at least read the last few posts before you rant like a teenager with A.D.D drinking to much Red Bull!!!!!!

I'd pay to see Jay Garrick WTFPWN Sentry, as extremely unlikely as that is. He'd probably scold him and monologue about being a proper hero and all jazz.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Wrong wrong wrong.
And how pray tell would Flash actually keep Sentry down?
Please read at least read the last few posts before you rant like a teenager with A.D.D drinking to much Red Bull!!!!!!
Simple, he takes his fist and bangs him in the face

Sentry can't take a hit, Sentry cant go light speed

Whats to stop Wally from stealing all of his speed or leaving him crying in the speed force?

Nothing
Face it, Sentry is nothing

Originally posted by bbrem123
i kno he is not as fast flash combat speed wise but he has been seen to move quite fast...in the comic when punisher tried to assassinate osborne and also when to void tried to shoot somebody at point blank range.

so it not like he doesnt have fast limb speed

In my post I explicitly stated that Sentry has superhuman speed and reflexes (as I've seen his feats). My argument was that flash's acceleration and reflexes are far far beyond Sentry's. In the first nanosecond or two flash would have achieved light speed where Sentry probably 1-7mph (which is still insanely fast).

So because Sentry caught Punishers sniper shot, hes suppose to keep up with the Flash?

Jeez this site is full of retards

Flash can end this fight in a freaking picosecond, there isnt anything Sentry can do

Originally posted by Truthslayerxx
So because Sentry caught Punishers sniper shot, hes suppose to keep up with the Flash?

Jeez this site is full of retards

Flash can end this fight in a freaking picosecond, there isnt anything Sentry can do

I don't think that Sentry has the speed fights to put him on equal footing with the Flash myself. But calling members retards is a good way to get warned or banned, dude.