Sentry vs Flash (Wally)

Started by Philosophía7 pages

Wally one-shots him back to Osborn.

Perhaps stealing his speed would work but I doubt it. IMP will never put him down for good, but might give him a temporary advantage victory that counts in an arena situation, although he's been recovering faster and faster every time. He hasn't shown any area attacks yet, but it should be well within his powers.

By the way, even if MM has been somewhat watered down since his fight with the beyonder he is still well above most of the people being pinned against the Sentry in this forum, including flash. A priori this doesn't prove he can beat the flash who has different powers, but the gap between flash and MM is big enough for it to be taken into consideration.

What do you mean by area attack? As is that covers a big area? Didn't Sentry create a mini-nuke when MM first took him apart?

the nuke wasn't really sentry's creation...it came from the planes

Originally posted by SamZED
What do you mean by area attack? As is that covers a big area? Didn't Sentry create a mini-nuke when MM first took him apart?

Yes, attacks that cover the entire battlefield, like nuking the area. To me it's obvious he can **** everything up and planet bust. But some people are too precious about extending feats to their logical conclusions.

Originally posted by Truthslayerxx
Any of the Flashes would spank Sentry

Sentry has never gone light speed once in his pathetic career

Wally either steals his speed or leaves him a weeping mess trapped in the speed force

You obviously never read a comic with the Sentry in it have you?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You obviously never read a comic with the Sentry in it have you?

Such fallacious reasoning.

First of all, it would either take someone to be lucky to have came across a Sentry comic where he exceeded light or it would take someone who read every appearance.

Just because someone don't know if he exceeded light speed doesn't mean they didn't read a Sentry comic.

They could have read more than 5 of them since the majority of his appearances don't have him exceeding light speed.

So enough with the stupidity.

Originally posted by h1a8
Such fallacious reasoning.

First of all, it would either take someone to be lucky to have came across a Sentry comic where he exceeded light or it would take someone who read every appearance.

Just because someone don't know if he exceeded light speed doesn't mean they didn't read a Sentry comic.

They could have read more than 5 of them since the majority of his appearances don't have him exceeding light speed.

So enough with the stupidity.


The real stupidity was in making a definitive statement such as 'Sentry has never gone light speed once in his pathetic career' without having read all of Sentry's appearances to verify the assertion....or, hell, looking in his respect thread at least.

Originally posted by h1a8
Such fallacious reasoning.

First of all, it would either take someone to be lucky to have came across a Sentry comic where he exceeded light or it would take someone who read every appearance.

Just because someone don't know if he exceeded light speed doesn't mean they didn't read a Sentry comic.

They could have read more than 5 of them since the majority of his appearances don't have him exceeding light speed.

So enough with the stupidity.

No, it wouldn't. You don't read the comics and then make ridiculous claims. Most people on here don't read them all but with you it seems like you say things which are usually always completely incorrect..

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it wouldn't. You don't read the comics and then make ridiculous claims. Most people on here don't read them all but with you it seems like you say things which are usually always completely incorrect..

You were completely wrong in implying that reading 1 Sentry comic would tell you that he can exceed light.

Originally posted by Enyalus
The real stupidity was in making a definitive statement such as 'Sentry has never gone light speed once in his pathetic career' without having read all of Sentry's appearances to verify the assertion....or, hell, looking in his respect thread at least.

It's not stupidity in believing a non truth. Stupidity occurs when one has all the facts and still uses bad reasoning.

For example, I say that I can fly through the air like Superman. You say I can't. But if I could really could (when you don't really know) then you wouldn't have made a stupid remark.

Lastly, the member just registered today, so he knows nothing of a respect thread or what it is about.

Originally posted by h1a8

Lastly, the member just registered today, so he knows nothing of a respect thread or what it is about.

not necessarily, he could've been a lurker for a long time

h1, he was a sock and a troll, which is why he was banned. He was just trying to start trouble, and clearly didn't know what he was talking about.

If you're going to make a definitive statement, make sure you know what you're talking about. That's the lesson here.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's not stupidity in believing a non truth. Stupidity occurs when one has all the facts and still uses bad reasoning.

For example, I say that I can fly through the air like Superman. You say I can't. But if I could really could (when you don't really know) then you wouldn't have made a stupid remark.

Lastly, the member just registered today, so he knows nothing of a respect thread or what it is about.

The kid joined to troll he's probably CallmeCommando or one of his many incarnations.....don't defend the kid he is scum! check out his history to read his rants that got him restricted

Originally posted by the ninjak
The kid joined to troll he's probably CallmeCommando or one of his many incarnations.....don't defend the kid he is scum! check out his history to read his rants that got him restricted
Who?

Originally posted by DarkOdin
WTF are you talking about this has nothing to do with the sound of speed.

If takes how long to say a sentence 10-15 sec. if that.

Even if it took the sentry a 1 min to say that sentence He travel to the sun in that time even if it took 5 mins that is still FTL

FYI it takes light 8 mins to reach the earth from the sun so unless Sentry took 8 mins to speak he went FTL

The point is HE shouldn't have been able to finish his sentence cos he was in space .... so his method of talking is non standard, so prescribing standard speed-times to it, is WRONG !!!!!!!!!

Its like prescribing euclidean geometry to Square triangles !

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
The point is HE shouldn't have been able to finish his sentence cos he was in space .... so his method of talking is non standard, so prescribing standard speed-times to it, is WRONG !!!!!!!!!

Its like prescribing euclidean geometry to Square triangles !

Not even close buddy your logic is just plain wrong. It is common practice in comics and canon For certain character to talk in space. Unless you got some feat to back you up showing a talking in space in comics some how is different then talk on earth which there is a million of feats to show it is normal you got jack. the distance from earth to the sun is the same in the marvel universe as it is the "real world"

If you think i am wrong bring a MOD in talking in space and on earth doesn't matter. Were are not talking about sound traveling in the real world it is the comics

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
The point is HE shouldn't have been able to finish his sentence cos he was in space .... so his method of talking is non standard, so prescribing standard speed-times to it, is WRONG !!!!!!!!!

Its like prescribing euclidean geometry to Square triangles !

So What!! Then he was just talking to himself/Void.

Originally posted by the ninjak
So What!! Then he was just talking to himself/Void.
😆 Great ownage The guy just trolling

I will now use your argument to show whats wrong with your logic

Proposition 1.) It takes eight for 8 min's for light to travel to the sun.

Proposition 2.) It about 10 seconds (estimated) to communicate a sentence similar to the one made by Sentry, in our WORLD.

Proposition 3.) Sentry traveled to the sun in the time it took to communicate the sentence.

Conclusion) In conjunction of 1,2,3, Sentry traveled to the sun quicker than the speed of light.

However for the argument to be valid, the conclusion must be true when all the premises are true. However premise 2.) is based on a false assumption. Its based on OUR worlds concept of communication. However this would be false in our world , as he wouldn't be able to communicate the sentence as sound doesn't travel in a vacuum. Therefore Sentry must be using a non standrad form of communication. This doesn't mean he's using telepathy or anything exotic like that, he could be using sound waves. But these sound waves necessarily must travel in a vacuum, in the marvel universe. But you can't say anything about this non standard form of communication, as you have never experienced yourself. So prescribing, standard speed times to it is false.

Now you could could say that the author was ignoring this logic when he depicted the scenario, however for your argument to still be valid, the author would have intentionally wanted to use the scenario to illustrate Sentrys speed. I disagree that the author had this inetntion, I doubt, who ever wrote it, even considred it. So your propistion falls back on the originally Invalid argument. If there is no author intention, then u have to use standard logic to prove your prosition, and your argument doesn't live upto these standards.