Takion vs Thor

Originally posted by darthgoober
If he's not comparable to the Celestials, then how is my saying Thor being able to absorb Takion the same as me saying he could absorb a Celestial?

Thor's absorbed energy enough to destroy 1/5 the universe successfully if I'm not mistaken, has Takion ever shown that his body contains more energy than that?

Just using that as a comparison to think Thor could absorb Takions energy. Takion can draw upon energy from The Source something that made the universe and is infinite. Takion held back the Godwave which spawned all of the gods in the universe and was contracting back to The Source.

Originally posted by kevdude
Takion held back the Godwave which spawned all of the gods in the universe and was contracting back to The Source.

(I don't mean to demean the feat, as its still really impressive. I just felt compelled to point that out.)

Originally posted by kevdude
Just using that as a comparison to think Thor could absorb Takions energy. Takion can draw upon energy from The Source something that made the universe and is infinite. Takion held back the Godwave which spawned all of the gods in the universe and was contracting back to The Source.

Thor absorbs Takion? Ridiculous

Originally posted by kgkg
Thor absorbs Takion? Ridiculous

Originally posted by kevdude
Just using that as a comparison to think Thor could absorb Takions energy. Takion can draw upon energy from The Source something that made the universe and is infinite. Takion held back the Godwave which spawned all of the gods in the universe and was contracting back to The Source.

And Takion DIED briefly holding back the Godwave, so it doesn't really mean much in something like this. It's impressive of course(just as Surfer channeling the energies of the Crunch itself is impressive), but it in no way indicates an infinite resistance to drainage.

But now I'm arguing a point that I never meant to argue. Like I said before I just wanted to see if OV would be willing to apply the same standard to Thor that he wanted others to apply to Takion/Source. Feel free to disagree in regards to whether or not Thor can absorb Takion, the point I had a problem with was assuming that Marvel characters are automatically connected to DC power sources just as I'd have a problem with people saying that DC characters are automatically connected to Marvel power sources. Otherwise Lobo would be an Elder of the Universe in a forum fight with someone like the Champion.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
His powers would arguably make MORE sense than those examples seeing as he is a God and the Source is the Father/Mother of all Gods in DC.

So he suddenly becomes related to the Source and has his powers derived from it so that Takion can prevent Thor's energy absorbing abilities from messing him up?

Thor's heritage comes from Odin and the Asgardians that were born into creation from Buri (And his wife.) who came into existence from nothing during the primal age of ice/fire, a time when nothing else existed. It also comes from Gaea the Elder God who came into being from the Demiurge which is the sentient life force born out of the Earth's biosphere.

I really don't see how it would make sense that he magically becomes related and have his power drawn from the Source, and if you're arguing it, to the point Takion can mess with his powerset like he did with Rayner and Wally.

Originally posted by darthgoober
The Champion and the Gardener can draw upon the primal energies of the Marvel Universe, it doesn't mean that they have infinite power themselves.

And Takion DIED briefly holding back the Godwave, so it doesn't really mean much in something like this. It's impressive of course(just as Surfer channeling the energies of the Crunch itself is impressive), but it in no way indicates an infinite resistance to drainage.

But now I'm arguing a point that I never meant to argue. Like I said before I just wanted to see if OV would be willing to apply the same standard to Thor that he wanted others to apply to Takion/Source. Feel free to disagree in regards to whether or not Thor can absorb Takion, the point I had a problem with was assuming that Marvel characters are automatically connected to DC power sources just as I'd have a problem with people saying that DC characters are automatically connected to Marvel power sources. Otherwise Lobo would be an Elder of the Universe in a forum fight with someone like the Champion.

Never said Takion had infinite energy, he can draw upon more from The Source which is. The Champion and the Gardener draw upon energy that is already released in the universe, they do not draw it from beyond the big bang itself (from what I have seen), different. OV was not the one who started applying that to start with, that was Gishere and Enyalus.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Absorbing someone's energy is different than screwing with the source of their powers. Energy absorption is a pretty standard ability, messing with someone's powers the way Takion did to GL, Flash, and Captain Atom isn't. I have no problem with someone saying that Takion or GL could absorb Photon's(Monica) energy, saying that a DC/Marvel character is automatically under the juristiction of the Source/Power Cosmic in a neutral setting is another matter completely.

Still, if ALL characters regardless of origin are to be considered under the juristiction of the Source in a neutral setting, then ALL lightning should be considered to be under Thor's juristiction. People can't have it both ways and still retain any semblance of impartiality.

It still doesn't prove that Thor has complete control over Captain Marvel, who has RESISTED such attacks in the past.

Originally posted by kgkg
Thor absorbs Takion? Ridiculous

yep those are the thor fanboys around here not only they think he can beat anyone but now he can absorb anyone into his hammer

Originally posted by kgkg
Thor absorbs Takion? Ridiculous

Pretty much. Because he is just energy, without sentience and the will to resist him. I wonder if this is the only way Thor's supporters think he can win.

Originally posted by kevdude
Never said Takion had infinite energy, he can draw upon more from The Source which is. The Champion and the Gardener draw upon energy that is already released in the universe, they do not draw it from beyond the big bang itself (from what I have seen), different. OV was not the one who started applying that to start with, that was Gishere and Enyalus.

And if you weren't saying that Takion has infinite energy, then you didn't really answer the question. I asked what feats Takion had that suggest his body contained more energy than would be required to destroy 1/5 of the universe because we've seen Thor absorb that much energy and you said...

Originally posted by kevdude
Just using that as a comparison to think Thor could absorb Takions energy. Takion can draw upon energy from The Source something that made the universe and is infinite. Takion held back the Godwave which spawned all of the gods in the universe and was contracting back to The Source.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
It still doesn't prove that Thor has complete control over Captain Marvel, who has RESISTED such attacks in the past.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't believe that it DOES prove that Thor has control over Marvel's lightning, quite the contrary in fact. I don't think you were fully aware of the arguement you jumped in on 😬 .

Oh, I thought you were arguing for Thor. It's quite possible for Thor to do it, but on the other hand, it's not a guarantee.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Oh, I thought you were arguing for Thor. It's quite possible for Thor to do it, but on the other hand, it's not a guarantee.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Pretty much. Because he is just energy, without sentience and the will to resist him. I wonder if this is the only way Thor's supporters think he can win.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How does Takion win?

how does he not?

Originally posted by Darkesthero
how does he not?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because he doesn't have the showings to prove it.

how can thor win? show me showings of thor being able to handle someone in takion level and i do mean someone like takion

Originally posted by Darkesthero
how can thor win? show me showings of thor being able to handle someone in takion level and i do mean someone like takion