Wonder Woman w/o powers runs the Street Level Gauntlet

Started by Omega Vision7 pages

Wonder Woman w/o powers runs the Street Level Gauntlet

This is Wonder Woman depowered to Olympic/peak human physical stats and robbed of her ability to fly. How far can she get by just with her fighting skills?

1. Green Arrow (no Bow)

2. Black Canary (no Scream)

3. Wildcat

4. Bane

5. Captain America

6. Lady Shiva

Clears it. She is an amazon.

Yea, Captain America stops her cold. Wonder Woman has absolutely no showings of hand to hand skills that I've actually seen to justify her beating Captain America as nothing more than an olympic level human. Or even peak human.

If she does not have any rest between the fights she stops at Wildcat.

Clears it or Shiva stops her.

I don't see her beating Captain America myself. Its easy to overlook the fact that though her skill is tremendous a lot of it is also due to her great combat speed (and conversely her combat speed is helped by her great skill).

She is an Amazon. Nearly peak human in strength, skills, endurance..etc

Originally posted by xJLxKing
She is an Amazon. Nearly peak human in strength, skills, endurance..etc

Do you think she could beat Batman if she were depowered?

I really don't know. That's a tough call

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Do you think she could beat Batman if she were depowered?

Yes.

Batman wins though.

I have not seen absolutely anything from Wonder Woman in terms of skill to suggest she can beat Captain America while shes at this level. Nothing at all. Captain America's physical advantage is significant, and his more skilled than her.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I have not seen absolutely anything from Wonder Woman in terms of skill to suggest she can beat Captain America while shes at this level. Nothing at all. Captain America's physical advantage is significant, and his more skilled than her.

Diana has had several story arcs/situations where she has been depowered, and even in that state she still has borderline enhanced human prowess (still able to deflect/catch arrows, etc), and Batman has commented in JLA that he believes that she may be the best martial artist in the world. Unlike most other comparably super-powered beings (Superman, Thor, Powergirl, and others), Diana has spent a great deal of time training *without* her powers (such as when she was young, and challenges on Themiscyra she would face would involve her not having her gods-given abilities, via Hippolyta's magic, or when she goes on mystical sojourns where her powers don't work), and she doesn't suffer a lick in skills when not in a "super" state.

That said, she would make the edge against this list, but if there were two who by either skill or prowess would block her, it's Shiva and Captain America.

(BTW -- saying that Cap has more experience, and that you haven't seen any showing for WW to indicate that she would, at the very least, be in his skill range, means you haven't kept up with the character for at least the past 25 years...)

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Do you think she could beat Batman if she were depowered?

She can basically turn her powers off by wanting to (speed and strength at least) and spars with him on even terms in that state, with both getting wins.

No way is she getting past Shiva. Cap stops her.

I will just add that every opponent is as strong, fast and durable as she is in her peak human condition.

She should stalemate Captain America (Batman too) and Lady Shiva.

Bucky would kill her 😐

Originally posted by tideoftime
Diana has had several story arcs/situations where she has been depowered, and even in that state she still has borderline enhanced human prowess (still able to deflect/catch arrows, etc), and Batman has commented in JLA that he believes that she may be the best martial artist in the world. Unlike most other comparably super-powered beings (Superman, Thor, Powergirl, and others), Diana has spent a great deal of time training *without* her powers (such as when she was young, and challenges on Themiscyra she would face would involve her not having her gods-given abilities, via Hippolyta's magic, or when she goes on mystical sojourns where her powers don't work), and she doesn't suffer a lick in skills when not in a "super" state.

That said, she would make the edge against this list, but if there were two who by either skill or prowess would block her, it's Shiva and Captain America.

(BTW -- saying that Cap has more experience, and that you haven't seen any showing for WW to indicate that she would, at the very least, be in his skill range, means you haven't kept up with the character for at least the past 25 years...)

Thank you.

stopped cold at Captain America.

Peak Human Male >>>> Peak Human Female in both speed and strength.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
stopped cold at Captain America.

Peak Human Male >>>> Peak Human Female in both speed and strength.

correct

male superhuman >>>>>female peak human too

Originally posted by Juk3n
correct

male superhuman >>>>>female peak human too

The only flaw in that reasoning is that the normative ratios in the Real World don't always translate into a comic setting: Steve wouldn't have as much an edge over (a de-powered) Diana as you might think (though he still would have one); she would still edge in skill, however, and that is what makes this challenge interesting...

Amazon physiology too, normal assumptions even in-comic may not apply (and the top female martial artists never have that much problem against their male counterparts anyway).