FF8 Party v.s. Ganondorf

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Ganondorf has never created something from one's mind,
Dark Link = superior!
stopped a bullet,
GJ, this is a useless feat. Bullets are small time and it implies she can be hurt by bullets.
possessed people from the past,
He's possessed people from other dimensions.
fused with a strong creation,
Triforce of power says hi.
or use time magic.
Neither has Ultimecia in canon, only in Dissidia. If she froze the FF8 party in time, she could just impale them all on ice spikes. Game ovar.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Dark Link = superior!

The one in the Water Temple? 😆

Or do you mean the one in Zelda 2? No proof that it is a creation of Ganon. Also: 😆

Omega Weapon is better than anything Ganon has made.


GJ, this is a useless feat. Bullets are small time and it implies she can be hurt by bullets.

That's not useless as she would stop Ganon's energy balls. Also, she did this in Edea's body. She be a lot uber in her own body.


He's possessed people from other dimensions.

The only people I remember him possessing is Zelda and Agahnim.


Triforce of power says hi.

Ultimecia is her base form is stronger than Ganondorf with his magical triangle.


Neither has Ultimecia in canon, only in Dissidia. If she froze the FF8 party in time, she could just impale them all on ice spikes. Game ovar.

Squall was able to defeat Ultimecia with her time magic. And I believe she had time powers in FF8.

That's not useless as she would stop Ganon's energy balls. Also, she did this in Edea's body. She be a lot uber in her own body.
haermm😆durlaugh

Yeah, no.
1. LOL
2. This will make sense when someone invents a bulet proof vest that also protects you from anti-tank rockets.

Agahnim.

Tadah.
Ultimecia is her base form is stronger than Ganondorf with his magical triangle.
In her base form she's a building buster at best. Without TC, she's a scrub by comparison.
Squall was able to defeat Ultimecia with her time magic. And I believe she had time powers in FF8.
Squall can't even hurt Ganondorf, so I don't see how this is beneficial?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
haermm😆durlaugh

Yeah, no.
1. LOL
2. This will make sense when someone invents a bulet proof vest that also protects you from anti-tank rockets.

Ganondorf shoots energy balls weaker than Thunder. His LttP Fire bats aren't on the level of Fira.

Rinoa would take Ganondorf down and she's much weaker than Ultimecia.


Tadah.
In her base form she's a building buster [b]at best
. Without TC, she's a scrub by comparison.[/B]

Without TC, she is still better than Ganondorf. He gets possessed by her.


Squall can't even hurt Ganondorf, so I don't see how this is beneficial?

Ganon got hurt by a Megaton Hammer/Biggoron Sword and it was enough to make him reel in pain and shut down his fire barrier while Link gets his Master Sword back. Squall will hurt him.

Ganondorf shoots energy balls weaker than Thunder. His LttP Fire bats aren't on the level of Fira.

Rinoa would take Ganondorf down and she's much weaker than Ultimecia.

Um? Ganon's a city buster.
Without TC, she is still better than Ganondorf. He gets possessed by her.
She's never possessed anyone like Ganon, and he'd destroy her without her TC.
Ganon got hurt by a Megaton Hammer/Biggoron Sword and it was enough to make him reel in pain and shut down his fire barrier while Link gets his Master Sword back. Squall will hurt him.
In the hands of Link who's so much stronger than Squall it's hilarious. Wanna see what Link can do with that hammer without any enhancements?

^Smack the crap out of that.

Link here had the golden gauntlets. Over 9000 STR stat.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
The side of the radio tower? I never said Squall can run on walls or something, what do you mean? In what part? I hardly remember.

Jump from where? From Dollet Communications Tower? That's actually REALLY high, you know? They were in a hurry because they had to complete the SeeD exam, not because the city was about to explode... Squall fall from a tower before attacking a Galbadian sodier at Deling, and that was pretty high, he has no signs of anything after the fall. He felt nothing.

That cliff is not as high as the Communication Tower, not even its half part. Nope, that wasn't a big deal and Zell reactions are always like that. That doesn't mean anything as he didn't suffered any injuries after that, Squall and Selphie either. Zell's reactions is to add fun moments to the game, like: GERONIMO!!!! He was having fun there. Zell fell from the Lunatic Pandora which is even higher than that cliff and felt nothing.

Lmao, Spider-Man's agility surpasses Zidane's. I never said Squall can run on the walls. And this has nothing to do with anything I've asked by the way.

Then I'm confused. You say Dissidia and AC aren't accurate representations, then you turn and say we need them to be able to tell what a character can do. Which is it?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Actually he needs like 5 seconds to power up first. And what pray tell would he do once he got there? Lift the Garden and run off with it? Theres only 20 or so seconds until it gets hit, so really he'd just get fried.

No, he could warn people. Evacuate some, or get people into a safer place instead of just leaving them to their fate. He would make it there FAR ahead of those missiles.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You know, using block capitals doesn't MAKE YOU RIGHT! IT JUST GIVES THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU'RE SCREAMING AT ME! And so your impression of the fight is that its actually meant to convey that Sephiroth teleports the party into the space behind 'Earth', a blue meteor shatters various planets and causes the Sun to go nova at which point Sephiroth appears as the party is engulfed in the supernova? Oh, and then teleports them back with nothing remotely damaged by this. Is that you think thats meant to convey? You, the person you uses a single animation from a completely different game over and over again to try to cast doubt on battle animations from a different game and indeed every game in existence. And I'm the one reaching. 😐

It being an illusion is the only logical explanation.

I don't think he teleported them anywhere. They were still on earth where they were before the attack.

Then I guess we can pass of Zell's attack as an illusion too. That's the only logical explanation because he sure can't actually run that fast.

OR, we could accept the fact that battle animations are a lot of times exaggerated. It happens all the time. There are at least 349829634 battle animations per game that are exaggerated.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Theres actually a blast of light that comes off of her that would indicate shes not merely using her fists. In any case, someone punching the ground and it ballooning and exploding is impossible without magic, so she must use it.

No, there is no flash of light of any kind. She simply punches the ground and it explodes. If your talking about that red flash, that's just the limit break animation.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, I think the first time was enough.

I do too. I really don't want to have to keep repeating myself.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well you really should becuase different games have different levels of whats possible. Final Fantasy 13 seems like the characters are always in realistic believability, theres little reason to scrap their battle animations. And while in FF4 they programmed in that Rydia is afraid of fire, they didn't in FF8, so your point is moot.

It most certainly isn't. So you are saying that, while they do it in FF4, FF8 is different in the fact that they have the characters use attacks that they normally wouldn't use? FF8 is unique like that, huh? I'd be interested in seeing your evidence supporting that.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh I get it- Nope, lost it. Whats your point again?

Squall destroys the world. That's my point. Oh wait, he doesn't? Then he doesn't actually do that with his attack.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Canon.

I don't know what you are talking about here, but I bet whatever it is isn't Canon.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Characters retained all their abilities and memories. In fact, Squall can perform blasting zone. It even goes through walls.

Oh joy! So Squall can do a battle animation in TWO games? My word! That MUST mean it's true! Not TWO games, you say?

And look at Blasting Zone in Dissidia anyway. Doesn't look much like it did in FF8 does it?

Originally posted by Nephthys
That just makes no sense. First off, ordinary people have guns, they don't 'need' superpowers. Secondly, thats why they rely on the superpowered protagonists to get shit done.

No, normal people do not. Garden in particular has MOST of it's students using swords and such, unless you want to claim ALL of them are super human too. And no, they don't rely on super powered protagonists to protect them from the monsters because there isn't enough super powered protagonists to do it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
What and leave his team mates to die or just fight for themselves? Squalls a jackass, but he's not Seifer.

No, I assume his team mates can do it too. Or is Squall the only one?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, but Zell probably can't.

Why not?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link here had the golden gauntlets. Over 9000 STR stat.

YouTube video

Edit: Nvm

Originally posted by TacDavey
Then I'm confused. You say Dissidia and AC aren't accurate representations, then you turn and say we need them to be able to tell what a character can do. Which is it?

Wait. Why are you confused? I replied to your post, I mean, you suggested various situations about the Final Fantasy VIII plot and I replied to that. You said stuff about their jumps, Zell, Squall and etc.

Let me explain myself properly in a way you can understand me.
Let's see... Actually, I do agree with you about Advent Children in being inaccurate when you relate it to the original plot, I mean, Final Fantasy VII. I agree there are some animations that are really inaccurate and can't fit the Final Fantasy VII plot (if you take your time to analyse it). Despite of that, since both, Dissidia and Advent Children are like... Live motion, we can tell how the characters can really perform during a battle, during a real battle, outside a RPG game. I am not saying everything are accurate and exactly representations of their abilities, I'm simply saying you can have a better view about their battle and combat performing.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Wait. Why are you confused? I replied to your post, I mean, you suggested various situations about the Final Fantasy VIII plot and I replied to that. You said stuff about their jumps, Zell, Squall and etc.

Let me explain myself properly in a way you can understand me.
Let's see... Actually, I do agree with you about Advent Children in being inaccurate when you relate it to the original plot, I mean, Final Fantasy VII. I agree there are some animations that are really inaccurate and can't fit the Final Fantasy VII plot (if you take your time to analyse it). Despite of that, since both, Dissidia and Advent Children are like... Live motion, we can tell how the characters can really perform during a battle, during a real battle, outside a RPG game. I am not saying everything are accurate and exactly representations of their abilities, I'm simply saying you can have a better view about their battle and combat performing.

Alright... I suppose in some small way it let's us see how that characters fight, but I don't think we need Dissidia or AC to tell us that.

What city did Ganon bust? was it one of these pretty featless asumptions or perhaps just a statement from someone with no real feat for Ganon?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Um? Ganon's a city buster.

So he's no longer an island-buster now? His energy balls have never busted anything. When he destroyed the island, it was never shown and he could've taken time doing that. He did destroy his castle but that's because he controls it. That's why it was floating.


She's never possessed anyone like Ganon, and he'd destroy her without her TC.

She possessed Adel who couldn't be beat by anybody in the world at the time. She had to be sealed. Ultimecia will possess Ganondorf.


In the hands of [b]Link
who's so much stronger than Squall it's hilarious. Wanna see what Link can do with that hammer without any enhancements?

^Smack the crap out of that.

Link here had the golden gauntlets. Over 9000 STR stat. [/B]

Golden Gauntlets or not, that still proves that Ganon can be harmed by things other than the Master Sword and Light Arrows.

Retcon.

Originally posted by Burning thought
What city did Ganon bust? was it one of these pretty featless asumptions or perhaps just a statement from someone with no real feat for Ganon?
He has never busted a city, he has frozen one and he destroyed an island.

Originally posted by NemeBro
He has never busted a city, he has frozen one and he destroyed an island.
Froze two.

Originally posted by NemeBro
He has never busted a city, he has frozen one and he destroyed an island.

Didnt think he had busted a city.

Freezing a city solid is city level destruction.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
So he's no longer an island-buster now? His energy balls have never busted anything. When he destroyed the island, it was never shown and he could've taken time doing that. He did destroy his castle but that's because he controls it. That's why it was floating.

She possessed Adel who couldn't be beat by anybody in the world at the time. She had to be sealed. Ultimecia will possess Ganondorf.

Golden Gauntlets or not, that still proves that Ganon can be harmed by things other than the Master Sword and Light Arrows.

No, Ganon can't be truly hurt by anything other than the Master Sword. Light arrows stun him temporarily, but they do no real damage. Even the Megaton Hammer was simply a temporary quick fix.

We see this more in Wind Waker. Weapons other than a fully charged Master Sword simply ding off him.

And Ganon is a very powerful Dark Sorcerer made even MORE powerful with the Triforce of Power. He doesn't get possessed, he possesses.

Didn't see this before:

So he's no longer an island-buster now? His energy balls have never busted anything. When he destroyed the island, it was never shown and he could've taken time doing that. He did destroy his castle but that's because he controls it. That's why it was floating.

No, he is, you're misconstruing my point. 😐 Aside from busting that island he's frozen two cities, ect. He's on a higher scale than Ultimecia without her Time Compression.

and, lolwut? He destroyed his castle because he was pissed off, and you were inside it. He has no "connection" to it. It's just a castle. It was floating because he made it float.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Freezing a city solid is city level destruction.

No its not lol, its just freezing the city, not destroying it. its not termed as city "busting", he busted nothing. Also is this an other "island destroy" feat where we dont actually see him do it or do we see him do this one?