Mister X vs Spider-Man

Started by h1a814 pages

Originally posted by Battlehammer
you bring a new level to ridiculously over the top statement that are not even closes to being accurate. It seven pages becuase it a good fight, we don't all massively overrate spiderman like your self.

Really based on what would make you think for one that X would not know? You said even implying you don't think he would know.....what you gunna try and tell me spiderman mind would be unreadable now? I not be surprised in the least your first statement was that spiderman moves 69 times faster then Mister X which is utterly rediculous.......were do you come up with this.......

X may attack first he may not, it won't matter anyways. Really X the trained faster who almost a master if not a master of ever fighting style on the planet plus alien martial arts who automacticly locks onto the brain patter of his opponents and has the ability to read there mind is going to be the one who leaves them self open..........yea that make complete senses......... 🙄

You guys view these fights as they would actually occur in a comic. I don't. I view them as the characters existed in real life with their understood powers and characters. Spidey is far far faster than X, meaning that if he attacked, X couldn't defend, no matter if he knows what is coming. Comics don't use common sense alot for the sake of the story. But in reality we use common sense.

Originally posted by h1a8
You guys view these fights as they would actually occur in a comic. I don't. I view them as the characters existed in real life with their understood powers and characters.
lulz

i guess x wins since the spider that bites parker just gives him a rash...(provided the spider hasn't already died of tumors rapidly growing under it's exoskeleton before it even had the opportunity to bite)

Man knows close to absolutely nothing about the way the universe works. Or even other universes as well. I said common sense not science sense. Big Difference.

1 thing i would like to know- Logan's hf was so insane the WWH said he knew he couldn't kill him-and needed several punches to knock Wolvie out (bearing in mind WWH was waaay past 100ton strength)
Logan takes hits from loads of bricks like they're nothing.
So how come Mister X, who is at most peak human strengthwise knock him out with his fists and feet only. Logan should surely laugh at X's blows.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
1 thing i would like to know- Logan's hf was so insane the WWH said he knew he couldn't kill him-and needed several punches to knock Wolvie out (bearing in mind WWH was waaay past 100ton strength)
Logan takes hits from loads of bricks like they're nothing.
So how come Mister X, who is at most peak human strengthwise knock him out with his fists and feet only. Logan should surely laugh at X's blows.

Because Logan was only created to be at peak human ability with enhanced healing and adamantium skeleton. Really, he is supposed to get koed immediately by one blow of a class 100 attack. The same as Spider-man is created to lift 15tons optimally.

he's lifted more than that, the 15 ton thing is respective "reunite limit" for example being able to routinely lift 100 tons, but spider-man (and basically any character) can and has lifted more weight when he needed to. that huge building portion he held up was a one time adrenal affair.

Spiderman is faster, stronger
he wins

Originally posted by h1a8
Because Logan was only created to be at peak human ability with enhanced healing and adamantium skeleton. Really, he is supposed to get koed immediately by one blow of a class 100 attack. The same as Spider-man is created to lift 15tons optimally.

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Um... what? Wolverine was created to be virtually a mirror image of Spider-man physically, as much as been said in interviews dozens of times. He had no healing factor, just an undefined level of superhuman durability, and he didn't have an Adamantium skeleton or claws (at least not as part of his anatomy). There was no Wolverine plan or origin set in stone when he was created, and the where floating several ideas while they where writing Uncanny (he wasn't even supposed to be a human mutant). Do you know the first time we found out Wolverine had a healing factor? Uncanny X-Men 142, seven years after he was created, and six years after he joined the X-Men. What he was created to be (which you clearly have no idea of) is irrelevant, and btw classic Spider-man was around Class 5, for a loooooooooooong time.

Originally posted by h1a8
Because Logan was only created to be at peak human ability with enhanced healing and adamantium skeleton. Really, he is supposed to get koed immediately by one blow of a class 100 attack. The same as Spider-man is created to lift 15tons optimally.

Regardless of what Logan was meant to be, he has been shown to be able to stand up to blows from 100ton characters consistently-because his HF heals him instantly. One punch from a class 100 is more damaging than 20 hits from a peak human. Abarrage of punches and kicks from Mister X should be nothing to a man whohas withstood assaults from the like of Namor and the Hulk.

sigh... the guy seriously needs to read some claremont, lien wien and john byrne interviews with his ignorant comment of wolverine only being peak human.

seriously if he had any iota of common knowledge of wolverine he wouldnt have said that at all..

i am so tired of this guy and his constant hate and character bashing why hasnt any mod banned him yet?

Originally posted by h1a8
Because Logan was only created to be at peak human ability with enhanced healing and adamantium skeleton. Really, he is supposed to get koed immediately by one blow of a class 100 attack. The same as Spider-man is created to lift 15tons optimally.

facepalm

Fail. Epic fail.

Originally posted by h1a8
Because Logan was only created to be at peak human ability with enhanced healing and adamantium skeleton. Really, he is supposed to get koed immediately by one blow of a class 100 attack. The same as Spider-man is created to lift 15tons optimally.

facepalm

oh let me join.. 😛 okay now i am serious let me get in my right frame of mine... *cough

facepalm2

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Regardless of what Logan was meant to be, he has been shown to be able to stand up to blows from 100ton characters consistently-because his HF heals him instantly. One punch from a class 100 is more damaging than 20 hits from a peak human. Abarrage of punches and kicks from Mister X should be nothing to a man whohas withstood assaults from the like of Namor and the Hulk.
You don't understand. Spidey has been shown many times to exceed 50tons in strength, even 100tons in strength. That doesn't make it valid here though. CA has taken blows from class 100's too, but that doesn't make it valid here though.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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Um... what? Wolverine was created to be virtually a mirror image of Spider-man physically, as much as been said in interviews dozens of times. He had no healing factor, just an undefined level of superhuman durability, and he didn't have an Adamantium skeleton or claws (at least not as part of his anatomy). There was no Wolverine plan or origin set in stone when he was created, and the where floating several ideas while they where writing Uncanny (he wasn't even supposed to be a human mutant). Do you know the first time we found out Wolverine had a healing factor? Uncanny X-Men 142, seven years after he was created, and six years after he joined the X-Men. What he was created to be (which you clearly have no idea of) is irrelevant, and btw classic Spider-man was around Class 5, for a loooooooooooong time.

I wasn't talking about his first creation but what the original authors intended for him in the consistency of his career. Wolverine wasn't created to have super strength or speed or durability. Just an ordinary human with claws, healing factor (later), and fighting ability. This is common sense. Classic Spidey was class 8 for a long time, not class 5.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
facepalm

Fail. Epic fail.

Not really, u don't see people arguing that Spidey is class 100 because of all the times he shown it. But It's ok I guess to see it as ok to argue that Wolverine has super class 5 strength and super durability (other than HF) because he has shown it at times too.

Originally posted by h1a8
Because Logan was only created to be at peak human ability with enhanced healing and adamantium skeleton. Really, he is supposed to get koed immediately by one blow of a class 100 attack. The same as Spider-man is created to lift 15tons optimally.

Logan is enhanced Human and nothing more.

you mean enhanced mutant...

No, theres no such class for that.

Hes enhanced Human.

He's enhanced human because of feats. But why isn't Spidey class 100 following the same logic?