CIS-less: Flash vs. Silver Surfer vs. Superman vs. Thor

Started by Starscream M9 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
Heat is energy. Just saying. 😗
well...I'm still going with it being a hyperbolic

Mjolnir has nowhere near the power of a million suns...unless suns are as weak as lightbulbs

to have even the energy of one sun is damn impressive

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Volume 2 when the Enchanter was messing with his hammer, right? I've got it. Just didn't recall that particular statement. Thanks. 🙂

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'd like to remind you and Galan that it wasn't a cheesy little black hole like Stardust tore open
What was chessy about the BH Stardust made?

Originally posted by Galan007
What was chessy about the BH Stardust made?

It didn't look as big as Surfer's.

Also, like Goober said, it sort of seemed like a transmutation feat, more than a power output feat.

Originally posted by Starscream M
dood...that's hyperbole. also neither scan says it has the energy of a million sons.

one says 'heat'.

another says 'might'.

How did I know you were going to say that? And why was it hyperbole? I mean even in the second scan, apparently Surtur feared the power from the throw enough to deflect it with Twilight. The same Surtur who destroyed a Galaxy and all it's Star's with a smile while making Twilight.

Isn't heat energy technically? And it even says that the Enchanter reversed Mjolnir's power (That being the key word.) to the point it glowed with the heat of a million Suns.

The second one has Thor specifically say, "....burn with the might of a thousand Suns, energy enough...."

Originally posted by Enyalus
Volume 2 when the Enchanter was messing with his hammer, right? I've got it. Just didn't recall that particular statement. Thanks. 🙂

Yup. It was #15 as I recall. No problem. It's a recap of what happened in Thor Vol. 1 #143 I believe.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How did I know you were going to say that? And why was it hyperbole? I mean even in the second scan, apparently Surtur feared the power from the throw enough to deflect it with Twilight. The same Surtur who destroyed a Galaxy and all it's Star's with a smile while making Twilight.

Isn't heat energy technically? And it even says that the Enchanter reversed Mjolnir's power (That being the key word.) to the point it glowed with the heat of a million Suns.

The second one has Thor specifically say, "....burn with the might of a thousand Suns, [b]energy enough...." [/B]

do you know how much energy is in a million suns? think about it...for a second.

hopefully, you realize how ridiculous it is to take those scans literally.

Originally posted by Starscream M
do you know how much energy is in a million suns? think about it...for a second.

hopefully, you realize how ridiculous it is to take those scans literally.

I really do not see the problem. Mjolnir has absorbed enough power to destroy a Galaxy. Contained and absorbed a blast that was going to nullify 1/5 of the Universe. What is so hard to believe about it's energy reserves being that deep? It's not as if it would have a problem containing that much energy.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I really do not see the problem. Mjolnir has absorbed enough power to destroy a Galaxy. Contained and absorbed a blast that was going to nullify 1/5 of the Universe. What is so hard to believe about it's energy reserves being that deep? It's not as if it would have a problem containing that much energy.
I just find it a ridiculous hyperbole to say mjolnir has energy of 1 million suns. I think whoever wrote that line has no concept of the energy that resides within even one sun, let alone a million.

maybe I'm the only one thinking like this. meh.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I just find it a ridiculous hyperbole to say mjolnir has energy of 1 million suns. I think whoever wrote that line has no concept of the energy that resides within even one sun, let alone a million.

maybe I'm the only one thinking like this. meh.

Simonson was always into the cosmic/mythic type big events with Thor.

I mean the first page of the first issue of his Thor run showed us a Galaxy core along with countless Suns/Stars exploding as Surtur forged Twilight.

Originally posted by Enyalus
It didn't look as big as Surfer's.
I thought it was purty big:
http://img641.imageshack.us/i/singularity1.jpg/
http://img412.imageshack.us/i/singularity2.jpg/

But at their event horizon, all black holes contain (relative) infinite gravity anyway. Surfer's hole = Stardust's hole.

Giggity.

😂

Surfer's is clearly more endowed than Stardust's. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Enyalus
Surfer's is clearly more endowed than Stardust's. 😖hifty:
mmm

You sure?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Surfer's is clearly more endowed than Stardust's. 😖hifty:
just because his hole is wider and more stretched?

Originally posted by Starscream M
just because his hole is wider and more stretched?

Ohhh snap!

I can't believe Brucey was the one to take the best shot. 🙁

As goober said these comparisons between surfers blackhole and stardusts blackhole are faulty comparisons. Surfers blackhole was created as a aftereffect of his energy blast.. Thats why it is relevant in regards to power output. The creation of the blackhole tells us the level of energy being discharged. Stardust feat was more in the vein of matter manipulation and hence is not analogous to the surfers. Further whethr high herald levelers can survive a blackhole or not is also irrelevant since the blackhole isnt whats key here but rather the level of energy output suggested by its creation.

In regards to this fight.

1.Surfer
2. Flash
3. Cant decide on superman vs thor. Thor has probly got the most powerful attacks out of all the combatants here, but in this scenario speed might be his undoing.

Perhaps I am in the minority, but I still think that the capacity to absorb energy is more important in this match than overall power output.

^Im confident that surfer can put up a high level of resistance to a thor energy drain.

Pulling energy from Surfer isn't necessarily where I was going. I was talking more along the lines of Thor absorbing any attack(s) Surfer throws his way. If he wanted, Thor could even amplify those attacks and sling them right back at Surfer.