Darth Nihilus vs. Palpatine, Yoda, Luke and Anakin Skywalker

Obviously, I don't kneed to explain to you that "Greatest DLOTS" doesn't mean "Better than joo in every possibible way imaginable. Surely I can count on your sense of subtleties and abstraction to account for the fact that while we have quotes calling Sidious the best there is, we haven't got feats to show that in every single facet of existence. We know he's the best, but by specializing in one technique even the greatest may be defeated.

(Incidental BLEACH quote there. Sorry, it won't happen again.)

You're going to have to prove that best also applies to TK, because nothing is specific on that particular issue.

Dorsk 81 Red. C'mon now. This was written almost 20 years ago. He uses the force to remove Pellean's fleet of 80 star destroyers from the Jedi Academy. Thrusts them entirely out of the system. It kills him. But he does it.

Size matters not.

Unless you'd like to defend the idea that size matters not for Johun as much as it matters not for Yoda, your gonna wanna drop this particular punctuation.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis

cool. Source?

You need to prove that Nihilus could overpower the TK of the of the group. You have given no proof of that, and that is the basis of your entire scenario.

I just gave you Luke's TK quote. That puts him alone on a level above N. If that was the source you were asking for, sorry about the misundertanding: That source is from Dark Nest. (final book, i don't remember the name.)

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
You're going to have to prove that best also applies to TK, because nothing is specific on that particular issue.

He made everyone in Coruscant forget that he took down a SSD and buried it below the crust.

I just gave you Luke's TK quote. That puts him alone on a level above N. If that was the source you were asking for, sorry about the misundertanding: That source is from Dark Nest. (final book, i don't remember the name.)

Yoda is strong, but honestly? We haven't got any DBZ stuff to prove his strength in this context so we're stuck with vague notions of midichlorians and pwnage. Sidious remains stuck without feats.

(Your Luke quote probably sank me. You must realize though that the other three on the team are largely periphery? As in, N. could take those three I bet.)

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Originally posted by Shoes
He made everyone in Coruscant forget that he took down a SSD and buried it below the crust.

Originally posted by Shoes
He made everyone in Coruscant forget that he took down a SSD and buried it below the crust.

i forgot about this, but it sounds familiar. recap por favor? i'm too lazy to wiki it. (Unless you give me a link)

EGC tells us that he (Palpatine), used his mind powers to obliterate all memory of the incident (the burying of the SSD).

lol, tell me about the incident. Thats what interests me. I know Sidious has crazy mind-clouding powers.

More information first about the burying. Did he do it? Was it done with the Force?

etc.

Gideon used to talk about that feat alot, but he never gave it the elaboration it deserves, so I figure it must be a ritual or have some circumstance attached to it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Gideon used to talk about that feat alot, but he neer gae it the elaboration it deserves, so I figure it must be a ritual or have some circumstance attached to it.

just curious where it came from.

Regarding the Tobin quote. Did he see Nihilus pick up his fleet from malachor V using TK? Furthermore, what exactly makes him credible in dictating the intricacies of the force?

I think anyone can see something levitate out of orbit and put two and two together.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I think anyone can see something levitate out of orbit and put two and two together.

Tobin's quotes, however, aren't really reliable, considering he lies to you more than once in the game.

The kicker is though, the loading screen that say N did pull the fleet out.

Nephthys
Gideon used to talk about that feat alot, but he never gave it the elaboration it deserves, so I figure it must be a ritual or have some circumstance attached to it.

You would probably like to believe that. The exact quote comes from the New Essential Guide to Characters, under Ysanne Isard's profile. It states that, "...with the help of the Emperor's mind-fogging powers, Imperial engineers buried [Isard's Super Star Destroyer] beneath Coruscant."

so not really a feat then.

truejedi
so not really a feat then.

...In what regard?

a TK feat. And nothing new really in mind-clouding powers, most jedi can do things like that. Pointless to this thread, in other words.

truejedi
And nothing new really in mind-clouding powers, most jedi can do things like that. Pointless to this thread, in other words.

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Me
The exact quote comes from the New Essential Guide to Characters, under Ysanne Isard's profile. It states that, "...with the help of the Emperor's mind-fogging powers, Imperial engineers buried [Isard's Super Star Destroyer] beneath Coruscant."

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Two key phrases: Super Star Destroyer. Coruscant.

As in his mind-fogging powers enabled engineers to bury a 19 kilometer ship beneath a planet with trillions of people on it. He must have pooled the veritable wool over, what? Thousands? Millions? With telepathy.

right, but has nothing to do with TK, nor anything to do with this thread.

truejedi
right, but has nothing to do with TK, nor anything to do with this thread.

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truejedi
And nothing new really in mind-clouding powers, most jedi can do things like that.

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