Beast Ganon; stunned by Ball and chain, normal arrows, Midna throwing him down and Wolf bites. None of those apart from Ball and chain (wouldn't be hundreds of tons anyway) are ridiculously strong.
And 'Stuns Ganon without the master sword.' isnt gameplay?Cutscene/Canon event, so no.
Normal arrows, Midna throwing him, Wolf bites. None of which have much strength backing it but still got the job done.
Not underestimating them. I know the speed and strength of the arrows, doesn't help. Its more the Bow itself then Link.You apparently don't. 😐 The bow working at all is a gameplay section and homage to Ocarina of Time anyway.
And thus, Moot.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Cutscene/Canon event, so no.
So your argument is, turning him on his side stuns him, and Link has little strength? Negative.You apparently don't. 😐 The bow working at all is a gameplay section and homage to Ocarina of Time anyway.
And thus, Moot.
From the OoT Ganon fight? Dont recall him stunning him in a cutscene. Obviously stunned or he would of got straight back up, though beast Ganon isnt the same as Dorf. No not little, just defiantly not GG strength. And has not been proven to be.
And that has what to being able to hit Sora with arrows?
From the OoT Ganon fight? Dont recall him stunning him in a cutscene.Cutscene: Ganon falls over, flames go away, Link can now go get the sword.
Obviously stunned or he would of got straight back up, though beast Ganon isnt the same as Dorf.
No not little, just defiantly not GG strength. And has not been proven to be.facepalmx
Arguing in a circle here. TP Link did what OoT with the GG's could not.
And that has what to being able to hit Sora with arrows?Wrong thread.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Cutscene: Ganon falls over, flames go away, Link can now go get the sword.Game. Play. You cannot legitimately argue that setting someone on their side stuns them basedo na gameplay mechanic.
facepalmx
Arguing in a circle here. TP Link did what OoT with the GG's could not.
Wrong thread.
Not setting, throwing. Seeing as Midna has to do this in order to beat the level it counts.
Provided no feasible evidence to TP>GGOoT.
Different Ganon forms and in-game quotes say otherwise.
Not setting, throwing. Seeing as Midna has to do this in order to beat the level it counts.That's hardly a throw.
Seeing as Ganon staying down is a gameplay mechanic to allow you to attack him, it doesn't count, as it defies all logic.
Provided no feasible evidence to TP>GGOoT.Sword lock.
Different Ganon forms and in-game quotes say otherwise.What quotes, exactly? Ganon in his beast form has shown that he can do everything he can in his human form. The difference is just style from game to game.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I would like to point out that Link in that scenario is the anchor for this, without which Midna would fail in tossing Ganon on his side. Suggesting he is rather strong even in his wolf form.
Hardly setting either >.>
Doesnt deify logic in the least, Ganon was hurt/stunned and stayed down.
In no way does that prove it as ive said before.
Gauntlet ones. If that were true why change between forms and have different weapons effect different forms?
Ganon/Ganondorf are different physically, and often mentally. They approach combat different, both in TP and OoT show us that Ganon as a beast uses more physical strength than powers, wheras Ganondorf uses some magic or TK (although he does use his sword).
Different forms, different physicaly statistics, therefore not the same.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Ganon/Ganondorf are different physically, and often mentally. They approach combat different, both in TP and OoT show us that Ganon as a beast uses more physical strength than powers, wheras Ganondorf uses some magic or TK (although he does use his sword).Different forms, different physicaly statistics, therefore not the same.
Not always, in some instances such as TP and ALttP he's shown to be cognitively and empowered just the same as if he were in human form as in beast form. In others such as the Oracle games Ganon's beast form exists without having the same mind as Ganondorf.(probably just cause he was half assedly resurrected from the dead in those games)
Originally posted by Burning thought
Ganon/Ganondorf are different physically, and often mentally. They approach combat different, both in TP and OoT show us that Ganon as a beast uses more physical strength than powers, wheras Ganondorf uses some magic or TK (although he does use his sword).Different forms, different physicaly statistics, therefore not the same.
Burning Thought, that has to be one of the single stupidest remarks I have ever seen you post, and I mean that with all due respect. Games have been rife with the tradition of transforming characters for a long time, hell even outside of gaming. The new form grants a change in abilities, and possibly tactics, but it is not a creation of an entirely new character. Saying Ganondorf and Ganon are not the same being is like saying regular Mario and Mario with a super mushroom are not the same. Or, if you simply cannot understand Nintendo references, like saying Sephiroth and Seraph Sephiroth are not the same, or possibly (I may be wrong on this particular point) saying that Arthas and the Lich King are not the same.
Transformation does not mean creation of an entirely new character. If that was the case, it would not be called a transformation.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
But there is an incredible difference in this situation, Link lacks Iron Boots on his feet, er, paws. He acts as the anchor against Boar Ganon using purely strength.
^ Its not a whole new character but different strengths/weaknesses for them; Beast, man and flaming head have different feats.