Alex Mercer vs. Link

Started by ScreamPaste21 pages

That was all already brought up and the decision was the same. Two things I personally wanted to know was that if it was the first time how did he know exactly what was happening? And when was it said that the effects are slow acting?

Ganon wasn't dead, broke free, and kicked soem ass. He already knew a great deal about the triforce as he was trying to steal it when he was captured.

The effects are shown to take tiem for the character to understand their use through the entirety of Twilight Princess.

Thought you were implying that never in LoZ has Links attack powers increased. To back track on that, saying items that allow him to lift heavy things and not gain attack strength doesnt help this argument. Just pointing out similar situations.

No, sir, simply pointing out that strength in Zelda and gameplay damage are not related.

The power ring isn't related in any way to Link's actual strength.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Ganon wasn't dead, broke free, and kicked soem ass. He already knew a great deal about the triforce as he was trying to steal it when he was captured.

The effects are shown to take tiem for the character to understand their use through the entirety of Twilight Princess.


Knowing of it is one thing. He instantly knew what was going on and that he had increased strength.
Examples please? 'cause in TP Ganon doesn't show any other strength feats and Link only shows it by throwing Dangoro- Whos about twice as heavy as the other ones that can be beat by Mayor Bo.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, sir, simply pointing out that strength in Zelda and gameplay damage are not related.

The power ring isn't related in any way to Link's actual strength.


Can also be taken as LoZ strength items to lift something don't apply to his attack strength in/outside gameplay. Never been shown, mentioned or referenced in any way in any game to do this.
Now to get back to the gauntlets. Both quotes say power to lift, doesnt even hint to anything else. (eg his grip or anything to do with that scene)

Gorons are not heavy, its official that the boots Links wears, and that Bo wears (assumig hes the sumo guy who gives em to link) are made of iron and are the secret in defeating the Gorons size. Goron weight=<Link+iron boots. If Bloodrain is correct, then TP links feats are pretty poor if thats all hes done.

Imo still, no base Link has shown themselves to be above 50tons.

If that. Also what base link was a 50 tonner? what did they do?

Originally posted by BloodRain
So TPLink is at base OoTLink strength, who could 'push' a 95ton block.

Checked my work, its actually 96tons that he pushes.... hey, 1 ton can make the difference lol.

Knowing of it is one thing. He instantly knew what was going on and that he had increased strength.
Examples please? 'cause in TP Ganon doesn't show any other strength feats and Link only shows it by throwing Dangoro- Whos about twice as heavy as the other ones that can be beat by Mayor Bo.

TP Ganon is Ganon, he's just as strong as OoT Ganon, who disarms OoT Link with the GG's. A strength feat.

Can also be taken as LoZ strength items to lift something don't apply to his attack strength in/outside gameplay. Never been shown, mentioned or referenced in any way in any game to do this.
Now to get back to the gauntlets. Both quotes say power to lift, doesnt even hint to anything else. (eg his grip or anything to do with that scene)
This is a horrible argument with nothing to support it except for gameplay.

Also, sidenote, your measurement on the block is wrong.

99 tons if it's 100 pounds per cubic foot. (impossibly light.)

The block is atleast 140 tons.

Also

Imo still, no base Link has shown themselves to be above 50tons.

TP Link, sword lock, Ganondorf.

Just a question? where are you even getting the name of the material for the weight? or just guesstimation?

Gorons I can possibly believe I guess even though a normal (as far as I know) human stopped them with iron boots on.

Swordlocking Ganondorf is very different to if he sword locked Ganon, which is what your trying to compare them with.

Gorons I can possibly believe I guess even though a normal (as far as I know) human stopped them with iron boots on.
Goron's are super strong living rocks. Bo didn't necessarily beat them in a sumo contest, only earned their respect. He certainly did not throw or over power any.

I know, I'm just saying it took the boots for Link to stop them despite these 140 tons statements unless the gorons are well over that.

And if that is the case... someone should start using Bo in theses battles 😐

I know, I'm just saying it took the boots for Link to stop them despite these 140 tons statements unless the gorons are well over that.

No matter how strong you are, the heavier one in motion will move the lighter stronger one. This is how physics works, the boots only anchor him, they do not make him stronger. Link is stronger than Gorons, see the above feat, consider that.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

As several others have said, different Ganon forms (Man, beast, head) have different feats. And what do you have to support Links strength being pillar throwing strength in that scene or any cutscene outside throwing it?

Really, i recall you saying you saw nothing wrong with it when i posted it. This new one, about 130. Any vid of this one?

So we got Beast Ganon knocking the sword out of Links hands with un-supported GG.

Not stronger then Gorons, can throw their weight though. Boots stop the user from being moved from their hits. Bo is not that strong :/

Not stronger then Gorons, can throw their weight though. Boots stop the user from being moved from their hits. Bo is not that strong :/
Bo never overpowered a Goron. Link over-powered the giant twilight possessed Darbus. 😐

Link is stronger than Gorons. Go look at the Goron feat from MM.

He says so himself. He pulls the chain to trip it, takes strength but not at the levels you mean.

The punching one above?

He says so himself. He pulls the chain to trip it, takes strength but not at the levels you mean.

The punching one above?

YEs, the punching one above, but nah. Bo never threw or overpowered any Gorons, that's speculation. All we know is he didn't get himself embarassed because the boots made him too heavy to move.

The above strength feat shows: The boots are incredibly heavy.

Link overpowered Firus, while still a disgrace to the tunic, I might add.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Link overpowered Firus, while still a disgrace to the tunic, I might add. [/B]

''Well, it's true... I did defeat the Gorons in a contest of strength and earned their trust, ...With the help of a little secret'' -Bo beats them.
I support that the Iron boots make you heavy. Lifting them means being able to lift their weight, not sure where their strength came into it.

Though tripping it is more Iron boots then strength.

''Well, it's true... I did defeat the Gorons in a contest of strength and earned their trust, ...With the help of a little secret'' -Bo beats them.
Apparently Bo's pretty friggen strong then, Link still beats Bo.

Also, Fyrus is not a sumo match, and the boots wouldn't allow someone without incredible strength to overpower him.

Depends how heavy they are. The strength he has when he throws Gorons would be plenty, holding the chains on his leg back would make his weight pull him down.