You know what, I'll say this. Her HF doesn't seem to be at current Wolverines level. It's at his classic levels. I was just reading through GOG when she was burned to a crisp, and it seemed to take her a few hours to fully regenerate. So while he can't keep her down, he can long enough to get a KMC win. This is just one example so it's not gospel by any means. Jinzin, how long does it take current Wolverine to regen from being burned to a crisp?
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Originally posted by dmills
You know what, I'll say this. Her HF doesn't seem to be at current Wolverines level. It's at his classic levels. I was just reading through GOG when she was burned to a crisp, and it seemed to take her a few hours to fully regenerate. So while he can't keep her down, he can long enough to get a KMC win. This is just one example so it's not gospel by any means. Jinzin, how long does it take current Wolverine to regen from being burned to a crisp?
Depends on when his regeneration starts up... After it kicks in it only takes a few minutes... if that.
When he was fighting Cass-Nova she burnt his arm down to the bone and it was already pretty much back to normal in the time it took for him and her to fight down a hallway.
I believe in the Civil War story it only took a few minutes again.
A lot of people think it took hours because of the time span stated on panel but it's a misconception as the time span is a reference to how long it took Wolverine to beat Lazear to get back to his body.
Originally posted by Humanwine
So Wolverine's low end feats are considered PIS for the other guy while his high end feats are canon because they are better?
I don't really think as much... but in Wolverine's case concerning his HF there's usually some reason why it's performing at extremely different levels that isn't just influenced by the plot...
However plenty of people who like to ignore context use the low end feats as a representation of his typical performance levels which isn't an accurate depiction of the character or even remotely fair.
PIS is being thrown around in this thread a lot but it more often comes down to context....
Originally posted by srankmissingninor the fact that world war hulk wasn't able to ko with a series of haymakers is PIS (more likely)
Since apparently its incredibly confusing to you. If WWH Hulk can't KO Wolverine with a series of hay-makers (although he did **** him up), then an that an example of USAgent knocking Wolverine out is PIS. Not really sure what the difficulty is figure it out....
Originally posted by Trackz
or the fact that world war hulk wasn't able to ko with a series of haymakers is PIS (more likely)
Originally posted by tkitna
I coming from the standpoint that I think its silly to have a street leveler hanging or survivng a class 100 character. Any of them should be able to be his brain to mush within minutes or just throw in across the state, BUT I realize the company has him written that way because it fills the egos of all the fanboys and their pockets in return. Its just unbelievable and it doesnt sit right with me, but its my issue and i'll get over it.
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Originally posted by Battlehammer
These kind of statements are just stupid and ignorant. So your arguement is that Marvel did this for the fanboys? How does some one have fanboys in there first apearence? Thats not even possible. Your arguement is a contradiction of it self. He foguht HULK AND KO WENDIGO in his FIRST appearance. Your arguement that they did this to appease the fanboy is ludicrous
I have a question for you Battlehammer and I know your in love with Wolverine, but try to be honest and sensible here. Do you realize how easy it would be for a a character that is strong enough to lift 100 tons or better to just hold both of Wolverines wrists and beat on him like a slab of meat? What could Wolverine possibly do? Seriously, i'll be generous and say that Wolverine can lift a ton or two and he cant be held down by a character that is 100 times stronger? Thinking otherwise is stupid and ignorant. Wolverine should never beat or even hang with a class 100 character.
As for his first appearance, he was nothing more than an annoyance to the Hulk and he was nothing more than a D-list character that was plugged into a story for God knows why. He got thrown onto the X-Men (again only god knows why) and became one of the first real vigalante type heros that changed the way comics were being portrayed at the time and people jumped on the wagon.
Originally posted by Survivor19
This thread is epic, all right, but:
can someone provide a list of bricks Gamora faced and how she was doing
then how logan did against them
Peace all
Did well against Thanos, Power Gem Drax, Maxim, and dropped the Thing with a nerve strike once. I'm sures there more.
just looked in her respect thread. She's knocked She-hulk out, beat on rogue, fought Ronan to the very end, and has a few more.
Originally posted by jinzinWith all that in mind I think it's safe to say it varies by the level of trama inflicted. A fried arm might take a few minutes, an fried body, a missing eye etc. could take much longer.
I don't really think as much... but in Wolverine's case concerning his HF there's usually some reason why it's performing at extremely different levels that isn't just influenced by the plot...However plenty of people who like to ignore context use the low end feats as a representation of his typical performance levels which isn't an accurate depiction of the character or even remotely fair.
PIS is being thrown around in this thread a lot but it more often comes down to context....
Srank I have read all your posts on your thread and i have to compliment you on your fanboy knowledge.You call all of wolverines low showings PIS and all of the other characters that have beaten him high showings PIS.Prove that Wolverine is faster,stronger and more skilled then gamora.
Post a scan of wolverine lifting a tank(i would post one of gamora but idk how to post a scan).Also is there any particular reason you disregard the fight between then and gamora.Has wolverine ever beat then?To my knowledge he hasn't.It was stated that at that point gamora and thanos were at least trying to KO if not kill thanos.
Your argument about cap not being able to but down wolverine is bull.US Agent who is less skilled and not as strong as cap put down wolverine by knocking him in the stem of the spine is proof of that.And if he can do that then gamora who specializes in that type of fighting can take down wolverine with one good shot as well as wolverine can to her.Wolverine himself said that her HF is as good as his.AND wolverine was only able to stab her because she was distracted.
You can't disregard all this knowledge that other people are putting up when your argument is that he is faster(false)stronger(possibly true)and more skilled(false) then gamora.You can't say "he loses because i like him more because he is better".[sarcastic]Nice argument![sarcastic].