Gamora vs. Wolverine

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
thunderstrike knocked her the F#@@ out with a mace strike on monster isle....

she was taken out by a a 30 tonner asgardian again with a mace strike on the rainbow bridge..

she was ko'ed by wolverine with a gut check...

also some of you guys keep bringing up her old bionic upgrades which she no longer has.. her bionics were in her old body not her current one that adam warlock created for her when he brought them back from soul world..

Wolverine got one-shot clunked by Thing. When facing him in X-Men vs fantastic Four.

Because Wolverine isn't distracted by a huge naked man falling on another.

Her first body was created to rival classic Adam Warlock's physicality. Specifically to match Magus. Her resurrected Warlock-created body was an upgrade. She subsequently acquired a cosmic makeover thereafter. So you're right. She doesn't have her old bionic upgrades anymore.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
captain america vs thunderstrike sparring and fought and held off bloodstrike

Wolverine vs thor/firelord took full blast and recovered in the same or nxt panel or showed no damage or slowing down.

spiderman vs firelord... beat him unconscious...even fought silver surfer for a while

Black Panther vs silver surfer...

Gamora vs ronan and sparred with thanos..

again what is so impressive with gamora she hasn't done anything none of these other guys haven't done and just like them she also has low showings where she has bn knocked out by less then ronan even with whatever upgrade you think she has received.

if you want to go by consistency and average showing gamora's durability is far below then what you think and she should have bn ko'ed by a single hit from ronan.

Originally posted by Trackz
there;s a story behind each of those examples as to why those street characters were able to stand up to the cosmic characters, in most of those fights ( the thor and silver surfer fights for sure) it was stated on panel and shown that the characters were holding back, Bp and Silver Surfer both stated that T'Challa wasn't killed because Surfer didn't want to murder him. Same with Thor vs. Wolverine who was just trying to break wolverine of his mindcontrol, the second he went all-out wolverine was finished.

Did Gamora have increased speed when she was upgraded?

@ deadline/philosophia

i see what you guys mean. at times some dont fight at their best of their ability in certain situations but in a forum fight we take them all at their best.

so some feats used for gamora like ronan and thanos is as much a jk as the ones i pointed out where they lived due to cis

also bloodstrike is not thor light he is equal if not superior.. and thunderstrike was still a herald lvl being ambient low lvl with CIS and was considered equal to herc in strength...

but this is the one cap held off thor light my @$$...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Pressure points work on characters with near or partial invulnerability by bypassing their natural durability, and essentially have the same effect on them as they do on normal humans.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
@ deadline/philosophia

Please don't mention my name and his in the same sentence. baka

Originally posted by Wild Shadow

i see what you guys mean. at times some dont fight at their best of their ability in certain situations but in a forum fight we also all characters will fight at their best.

Its not relevant for reasons I already explained.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow

also bloodstrike is not thor light he is equal if not superior.. and thunderstrike was still a herald lvl being ambient low lvl with CIS and was considered equal to herc in strength...

Thunderstrike has class 75 strength for starters..

Originally posted by Philosophía
I remember reading this discussion like a week ago, is it still at the point where comic showings are ignored due to, well, one of the characters not fighting in a forum capacity/user controlled manner? If so, lulz.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
also bloodstrike is not thor light he is equal if not superior.. and thunderstrike was still a herald lvl being ambient low lvl with CIS and was considered equal to herc in strength...

but this is the one cap held off thor light my @$$...

And normal Thunderstrike still had his moments like smacking Destroyer up the head. But his mace ain't no Universal Weapon. And he wasn't low herald level in the slightest. If you want to mention low feats, Wolverine's got some of the lowest of the low. Stop bringin Gamora down to his level. It's not funny anymore.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Don't come in here and start straw-manning these fine debaters. Clearly, the point made was that Ronan didn't use any of his abilities because he didn't nullify the gravity of Gamora who can summon aircycles remotely. Clearly. crackers I know everything about Thunderstrike. Every. Thing. crackers

And normal Thunderstrike still had his moments like smacking Destroyer up the head. But his mace ain't no Universal Weapon. And he wasn't low herald level in the slightest. If you want to mention low feats, Wolverine's got some of the lowest of the low. Stop bringin Gamora down to his level. It's not funny anymore.

so do i..disgust

like being repeatedly mention as still having near equal strength of guys like hercules and "just as strong as maxam" although i dont think he was high end he was still strong enough for me to view him as a low lvl 100 tonner or at the least 90 tonner..

his mace was no universal wpn, i agree. but, it was b/c he never finished discovering all its abilities and how to operate it.. he was still able to blast energy beams as well as omni directional blast.. flash bomb style attacks.. even whirl winds/ dimensional phase transportation,, creating ravines minor ground shocks localized earthquakes.. Emp's and drawing energy from various sources and tracking them..

although still limited in power knowledge and fighting skill he still ko'ed her with a simple mace strike to the grill... 🤣 😂

also logan may have more low showing on panel but comapred to his average and high end they are still minimal and below the norm...

with gamora's lack of feats and stories her minimum low showings also make up a large part of her character since she has far fewer feats to make a proper accessment of her abilities.

^ He had his moments. Still doesn't mean Wolverine beats Gamora. excellent

No offense to anyone but this thread is pure win, I only follow it to see you guys going for each others throat. 😂

Gamora still trashes wolverine.

Gamora wins

😆

Originally posted by Trackz
this point isn't completely true, Luke Cage has stood up to pressure point strikes due to his durability. Stunning Thanos and knocking out thing with pressure points indicates great strength and skill.

Was it a human level character who tried it on Luke, or meta?

Unless your name is Mantis or Val Amorr, you'd probably need some combination of strength/durability and skill for them to work.. Like, say, it'd allow a class 50 to ko a class 100, like Blue Beetle managed with Giganta. (Not saying she's class 100, as I know little about the character, but in the story she was presented as much stronger and more durable than Beetle's armor..)

This went on for forty pages? Dear Lord. 🤣

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
This went on for forty pages? Dear Lord. 🤣

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Well I finally read the Ronan issue again for the first time since like.. 2 years ago.... I can admit I was wrong with my chronology of the fight, but beyond that.... re-reading the fight only furthered my estimation of the fight as being less than impressive enough to edge out Logan... The issue is when is comes to skill, and speed, you could switch Gamora out for Wolverine in that comic and it would have gone the exact same way. The only thing Gamora did in that comic that Wolverine couldn't was fair against Lava. But like I said before and like Srank also stated, every time Ronan began to fight effectively using his powers, she was instantly at his mercy, or completely ineffectual.

^ Wolverine can't shoot energy blasts. Wolverine would get knocked out by a full power blast of the Universal Weapon. Wolverine would not speed tackle Ronan. Wolverine would not transmute a Godslayer into his hands. Wolverine would not ooze out waves of energy in tandem with Ronan to empower Glorian.

These are all things Gamora did in that fight, in addition to tanking lava. You could not legitimately switch Wolverine in with Gamora.

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quarrel speak says i.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Wolverine can't shoot energy blasts. Wolverine would get knocked out by a full power blast of the Universal Weapon. Wolverine would not speed tackle Ronan. Wolverine would not transmute a Godslayer into his hands. Wolverine would not ooze out waves of energy in tandem with Ronan to empower Glorian.

These are all things Gamora did in that fight, in addition to tanking lava. You could not legitimately switch Wolverine in with Gamora.

Hard to tell if that energy was coming from Gamora or Ronan and if it was coming from Gam is sure as hell didn't do anything...

First of all who says that's a full power blast? Second of all, Wolverine's stood up to blasts from friggin Firelord BEFORE he had a healing factor.. and multishots from wwh. so wrong there.

Wolverine's already done a mirror speed feat to Gamora's and has superior feats on top of that... and Gamora was immediately caught when she shoulder checked him. How's that impressive?

Godslayer is inconsequential as all she manages was one parry before the fight was over. Wolverine did the same thing with his claws to mjolnir.. yeah you could easily switch them out for the most part... It's not a feat that seperates her into a different clas from Wolverine.