Gamora vs. Wolverine

Who would win in a fight Wolverine with class 70 strength, midtier durability, with a sword and dagger in place of his claws and his healing factor operating at 10%, or standard Wolverine. Because thats the fight more or less. Gamoras strength advantage doesnt come even remotely near offsetting the differences in healing factors.

End of thread.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
are you kidding that is from manifest destiny mini.. he can and has done similar ko nerve hits.. you could also see in the story that he had bn practicing with an old master relearning the basics which he was taught to see the weakness in things b/c logan had forgotten and simply barreled through ppl..

in his fight he finally did it with a brick which caused him to shatter,, he can and does do it.. it is his ability you just dont like it.. and to make it worse for you his ability is also cemented by MA training on panel and demonstrated by doing it to a brick

Which brick? How many nerve hits does he have against bricks?

Originally posted by The Real Wolvie
Post scans. Also, Logan has done MUCH better against Thing. He even turned a Chi-amping version of THING into dust with a casual slap of the hand...while fighting three other CHI-AMPING fighters which he defeated without using his claws or HF. He went on pure skill and only used his claws at the very end to kill Soul Striker (which he could have just used his fist to knock him out).

One-shotting bricks doesn't necessarily make you ubber skilled just means you are incredibly strong. Please post scans CLEARLY showing three things

a) That Gamora performed the feats you mentioned

b) That she did so using skill.

c) That Gamora has equal or greater speed/reflexes.

d) The extent of her healing capabilities.

That's not too much to ask is it?

Please review the respect thread. Much like Wild Shadow you didn't even know she fought drax...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=432516&pagenumber=1

i just added one in the respect thread so that is one and the one from manifest destiny is two.. plus whatever other ones he has pulled on other ppl.. which he has a nerve attack section in his respect thread.. now your just trying to discredit him and think b/c you dont think he doesnt do it very often he cant or wont do it.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i just added one in the respect thread so that is one and the one from manifest destiny is two.. plus whatever other ones he has pulled on other ppl.. which he has a nerve attack section in his respect thread.. now your just trying to discredit him and think b/c you dont think he doesnt do it very often he cant or wont do it.

Bloody hell. Learn to read I simply asked you a question. I don't check the Wolverine respect thread I have other things to do.

So basically you got two..what else?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=12720399

Are you shitting me? Who the hell is this guy. Some nobody > Thing? LOL Wolverine is even using a weapon.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Please review the respect thread. Much like Wild Shadow you didn't even know she fought drax...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=432516&pagenumber=1

my argument with you is you tried to claim she beat him up or fought him which i was only aware of one fight the rest werent a fight nor even a sparring session a kick and a punch with thanos does not mean she beat him.. try again with some else when trying to discredit or make someone look foolish.

Originally posted by Deadline
Bloody hell. Learn to read I simply asked you a question. I don't check the Wolverine respect thread I have other things to do.

So basically you got two..what else?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=12720399

Are you shitting me? Who the hell is this guy. Some nobody > Thing?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
he did to rogue which is also impressive due to her invulnerability lvl.. it was during the fight for leadership of the x-men. i am tired and dont feel like searching my memory is kinda off..

I know that example but apart from that he doesn't have **** all does he?

Originally posted by Deadline
Bloody hell. Learn to read I simply asked you a question. I don't check the Wolverine respect thread I have other things to do.

So basically you got two..what else?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=12720399

Are you shitting me? Who the hell is this guy. Some nobody > Thing? LOL Wolverine is even using a weapon.

that scan was not the chi amping brick from manifest destiny that is just a trans dimensional giant from another world showing logan has bn doing nerve blows for yrs off and on.. the beings were on average hell above humans each with their own ability.. strength.. shadow teleportation, morphing etc etc..

here is ur chi amping brick

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
during logan path of the warlord logan was under a vow of no bladed weapons.. he wasnt killing his enemies.. he was using a wooden practice sword instead which all the villains in that story laughed at him about his toy sword meant for children the knife in his hand he used only the handle to hurt the giant.

that scan was not the chi amping brick from manifest destiny that is just a trans dimensional giant from another world showing logan has bn doing nerve blows for yrs off and on.. the beings were on average hell above humans each with their own ability.. strength.. shadow teleportation, morphing etc etc..

here is ur chi amping brick

Karnak-esq "find the weakness" pressure point attack.

i'm getting tired of the insults and attitude... are you srank? report button sooo close must,,, stop... dig.... for shatner reserves

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i'm getting tired of the insults and attitude... are you srank? report button sooo close must,,, stop... dig.... for shatner reserves

Also like to point out that Wolverine doesn't need to do something more than once for it to be considered a legit feat. The whole point of the story was that Logan was basically getting a skill upgrade while learning/remembering that he can't always rely on his healing factor. So yeah...since then, he's been crazy. I mean, he completely owned Wrecker - yet back when he was fighting Wrecker in a team, he got slapped around a lot. So yeah, he can use pressure points to turn a brick to rubble now. Not sure if he ever could do that before but it doesn't matter because it was part of the storyline of Wolverine being upgraded/being reminded that he needs to use his skills and not rely on his healing factor.

He was also fighting three other chi-ampers in that fight simultaneously. I can show scans here..

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=486007&pagenumber=14

Just move down the page of the respect thread - I gave you the page number there. If the link doesn't work, it's on page 14 of the respect thread - Wolverine takes on four chi-ampers at once. One shotting a brick (turning him to rubble with a karate chop), and kicking the crap out of two others...taking a single shot from Soul Striker (healing factor didn't help him here as Soul Striker could punch him in the soul and it was previously established that being punched in the soul for Logan was something his healing factor couldn't repair.) So yeah, the point being, that Logan had to use strategy (he took away the soul strikers target by focusing on a happy memory) after that, he caught Soul Strikers fist and could have easily knocked him out with a punch but decided to decapitate him instead. It's all right there in the thread - you can clearly see just how skilled Wolverine/the Black Dragon is.

I don't care about insults, truthfully, I think they make the threads more fun to read. While I don't think I have insulted anyone in the last couple of days, I think as a rule I probably do it far too much to complain about others doing the same anyway.

Still you should try to look at it from their perspective. Can you imagine how frustrating it must be to have absolutely no on panel evidence to support your claim, and still try and argue in favour of that stance in a debate? That is the sad plight of team Gamora. Of course some rude comments are going to slip in, I mean, they have got to fill up the posting space that is normal used for feats and evidence with something.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Karnak-esq "find the weakness" pressure point attack.

Originally posted by Trackz
that turned him to rubble? strange...but you would put that at the same level as gamora pressure pointing thing?

Above, as it was actual done in the flow of combat, where Wolverine as engaged against several other skilled opponents as well, and not a free shot on a incapacitated opponent.

Originally posted by Trackz
that turned him to rubble? strange...but you would put that at the same level as gamora pressure pointing thing?

Well if we are talking about her pressure point on "The Thing" where she admits that she needed a distraction just to land the blow, then Wolverine's feat is actually superior for two reasons.

1) He turned his opponent into rubble, all Gamora did with class 70 strength was hurt Thing a bit. Difference much?

2) He was fighting three other chi-ampers at once, plus he is like what class 2 strength? lol. Clearly the difference is the skill.

Why are we even talking about pressure points? Wolverine has tanked dozens of "instant kill" pressure points in the past. His healing factor negates any effects they may have near instantaneously. It's not as though it is even a remotely viable option for Gamora to come into melee and try to ko Wolverine with pressure points.

Originally posted by The Real Wolvie
Well if we are talking about her pressure point on "The Thing" where she admits that she needed a distraction just to land the blow, then Wolverine's feat is actually superior for two reasons.

1) He turned his opponent into rubble, all Gamora did with class 70 strength was hurt Thing a bit. Difference much?

2) He was fighting three other chi-ampers at once, plus he is like what class 2 strength? lol. Clearly the difference is the skill.

Po taught him to "see" the inherent weakness in an object and destroy it with a slight touch in the right location. So... your wrong.