Gamora vs. Wolverine

Because ripping up the battle field and filling it with dust and debris is a smart move? Why would Gamora want to give a faster more skilled opponent even more advantages and give one of the stealthiest hunter/tracker in comicdom a smoke screen?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6063/wolverine14529ei8.jpg

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Gladiator said that no force in the Universe had ever taken on so many Elite Shiar Guardsmen and won, so theres that, and Gamora her self no of Wolverine's reputation and was eager to test it... so theres that as well. Obviously you'd like to decided that Gamora is more skilled based on an arbitrary title, but - you know - I can do that to seeing as Wolverine is "the best there is at what he does". Actions speak louder than worlds. So where are the actions that show Gamora being more skilled? They aren't anywhere because she hasn't fought any notably skilled opponents and won. Thats just a fact. The only person will skill of any merit she has fought with - once again - was Wolverine and she didn't win, or even show the slightest signs of being superior. Wolverine on the other hand has beaten extremely skilled opponents. By a comparison of feats Wolverine is the more skilled of the two, and a comparison of feats is how these debates are decided. If you don't think Gamora has enough feats to justify your opinion.... then why are you arguing in case of it? If the feats don't exist then you are simply giving Gamora the benefit of the doubt.

Wolverine healing factor needs to be overloaded to ko him. In ever instance of him ever being knocked out his healing factor was over loaded. Now, some of the time his healing factor was written down to low levels to serve the plot - which means they are examples of PIS - and as I imagine those are the examples you'd like to use, I guess arguing that the ko occurred magical without Wolverine's healing factor being taken into account, is really your only option. If you'd like you can post any example of Wolverine being knocked out and I will explain the circumstances behind it to you.

No feats to back your opinion of Gamora of winning, and only using PIS low end Wolverine feats. Did someone say something about a sinking ship?

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine healing factor needs to be overloaded to ko him. In ever instance of him ever being knocked out his healing factor was over loaded.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Because ripping up the battle field and filling it with dust and debris is a smart move? Why would Gamora want to give a faster more skilled opponent even more advantages and give one of the stealthiest hunter/tracker in comicdom a smoke screen?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Lulz.

What do you think is happening? Someone found a way to ko him that doesn't take his healing factor into account? Seriously... 🙄

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine healing factor needs to be overloaded to ko him. In ever instance of him ever being knocked out his healing factor was over loaded.

Still lulz.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Y'know... in retrospect, I think I misinterpreted what you're trying to say and have come to appreciate what you're arguing here and -- no, wait.

Still lulz.

So in other words: yes, you don't think in some instances people have just magically bypassed Wolverine's healing factor.

😆

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So in other words: yes, you don't think in some instances people have just magically bypassed Wolverine's healing factor.

😆

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
How did throwing sh1t at Wolverine transmorph into an argument over the principles of fair fighting, duels and clean victories? I'll chalk it up to a mutant superpower to prevaricate onto wholly inapposite arguments. The mutant, Hope, heralded your arrival... the second mutant. Call the presses.

Unlikely in your opinion, fine. Plot device that violates a KMC rule? Not so much.

Annnnnnnd there we go with your run-away arrogance and insulting behavior.... *sigh* guess it was only a matter of time.

I'm not even arguing at this point, just pointing out the principle... If you have to (for example) negotiate your opponent by way of BFR it doesn't say much about how you'll fair against them in a fight. It's pretty relevent when you're discussing who would win in a fight.

Pretty sure I didn't say rubble's against KMC rules.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Obviously you'd like to decided that Gamora is more skilled based on an arbitrary title,

You obvously didn't get the point he was making.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
and adamantium skull which also absorbs shock which logan explained in an old scan to another hero which keeps his brain from turning to jello.. it was an 80's scan. 😉

Originally posted by jinzin
Annnnnnnd there we go with your run-away arrogance and insulting behavior.... *sigh* guess it was only a matter of time.

I'm not even arguing at this point, just pointing out the principle... If you have to (for example) negotiate your opponent by way of BFR it doesn't say much about how you'll fair against them in a fight. It's pretty relevent when you're discussing who would win in a fight.

Pretty sure I didn't say rubble's against KMC rules.

Why are you pointing out the principle? I don't care about that principle and it has nothing to do with whether slamming several tons of something onto Wolverine is plot device.

Glad we agree.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So in other words: yes, you don't think in some instances people have just magically bypassed Wolverine's healing factor.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine healing factor needs to be overloaded to ko him. In ever instance of him ever being knocked out his healing factor was over loaded.

Still lulz.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
WWH said something different and directly proofed his point too.

but seriously even vibranium has a limit to the shock it can absorb and i am sure someone like bP who is covered by it would be killed by those blows

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Aww, I was jest pokin a lil fun atcha, ole buddy! 😄

Why are you pointing out the principle? I don't care about that principle and it has nothing to do with whether slamming several tons of something onto Wolverine is plot device.

Glad we agree. In other words: I think your idea is dumb. Let's look at it again: mhmm mhmm mhmm

Still lulz.

Its not an idea its a statement of fact. If you disagree make a counter argument and site some references.

Wolverine's healing factor needs to be over loaded to ko him. It's just a fact. Every instance of him ever being knocked out is an example of his healing factor being overloaded. Obviously you'd like to site bullshit low-end examples of PIS like the Thing / Pip the Troll bonks that would otherwise be discarded, so you are required to come up with some crazy theory that maybe sometimes Wolverine's healing factor doesn't factor in. Seriously... what do you think happens? His healing factor steps out for a moment to catch up on those episodes of Deadwood it tivo'd but never got around to? Get your head out of your ass.

on the thing ko comment even ree stated that logan was only ko'ed b/c he wasnt at a hundred person siting the battle logan had just bn in.. he said if logan was healthy thing couldn't hope to do that..

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Its not an idea its a statement of fact. If you disagree make a counter argument and site some references.

Wolverine's healing factor needs to be over loaded to ko him. It's just a fact. Every instance of him ever being knocked out is an example of his healing factor being overloaded. Obviously you'd like to site bullshit low-end examples of PIS like the Thing / Pip the Troll bonks that would otherwise be discarded, so you are required to come up with some crazy theory that maybe sometimes Wolverine's healing factor doesn't factor in. Seriously... what do you think happens? His healing factor steps out for a moment to catch up on those episodes of Deadwood it tivo'd but never got around to? Get your head out of your ass.

You sure your not deciding that feats you don't like are low showings and PIS?

Originally posted by Deadline
You sure your not deciding that feats you don't like are low showings and PIS?

Feats that are out of line with way Wolverine's healing factor are displayed the fast majority of the time are PIS.

OneDumbGo, wants to use those low end feats, so in an lame attempt to try and move them out of the PIS zone, he has decided that maybe they somehow magically bypassed Wolverine's healing factor out right, and if his healing factor didn't factor in then they aren't out of line with the majority of feats and are therefor valid. What a mook.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Feats that are out of line with way Wolverine's healing factor are displayed the fast majority of the time are PIS.

The problem is some of these strikes are from highy skilled people, so obvoulsy these are going to be in the minority.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Its not an idea its a statement of fact. If you disagree make a counter argument and site some references.

Wolverine's healing factor needs to be over loaded to ko him. It's just a fact. Every instance of him ever being knocked out is an example of his healing factor being overloaded. Obviously you'd like to site bullshit low-end examples of PIS like the Thing / Pip the Troll bonks that would otherwise be discarded, so you are required to come up with some crazy theory that maybe sometimes Wolverine's healing factor doesn't factor in. Seriously... what do you think happens? His healing factor steps out for a moment to catch up on those episodes of Deadwood it tivo'd but never got around to? Get your head out of your ass.

Everytime that Logan hasn't gone through catastrophic damage and he's knocked out/incapacitated, it's PIS and doesn't count? And here we come to it at last, "IDLI, IDH" is once again the basis for your entire argument. That didn't really go over too well concerning Wovlerine's brain penetrability then. It'll go over even less well now. Watch the language, kiddo.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Feats that are out of line with way Wolverine's healing factor are displayed the fast majority of the time are PIS.

OneDumbGo, wants to use those low end feats, so in an lame attempt to try and move them out of the PIS zone, he has decided that maybe they somehow magically bypassed Wolverine's healing factor out right, and if his healing factor didn't factor in then they aren't out of line with the majority of feats and are therefor valid. What a mook.

I'm fine with terms like "mook." When it's applied by folks like you who refuse to believe Wolverine can't have his brain penetrated or that he can't be knocked out without catastrophic damage overloading his healing factor (despite it happening on-panel numerous times), it's an indication I'm doing something right.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
That's pretty cool where's that from?

Wolverine # 145

http://wolverine.x-knights.com/wolverine145.html

i get the feeling you really dont read much or know much of characters.. just guessing from some of your post and attitude..

Wolverine as Death fights Hulk head on; He damn near kills him too:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=486007&pagenumber=2

hulk section fight