Its stopped curses and reflected magic, thats it. You cant add feats just because characters dont decide to use powers they have, thats also PIS you will find.stopped all of the powers listed, play a Zelda game.
It's broken curses, reflected magic, nullified TK, smashed barriers, stopped time, ect. Ganon could open a rift to the gap between dimensions, but Link would have to walk into it for it to matter, since the sword stops Ganondorf's TK.
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Powers that Ganondorf displays:
-Minor earthquake
-Clairvoyance
-Clairaudiance
-Telepathy or Voice Projection
-Crystal trap
-Paralysis
-TK
-Teleporting others
Do anything? how far away was Ganondorf? we dont even know how long it took for him to do said powers, he could have been casting the spells for ages and used a vast number of time consuming gestures and theres nowhere Ganon can go that Kain cannot follow with a quick teleport or two.
Dante and Kratos are not in the same round in this fight. Demitri and Kratos would not distract Kain tbh.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Ok so weak earthquake, some easily avoidable and predictable attacks and slow TK. At least someone is providing some evidence for Ganon thats not gameplay mechanics or fanon.
BS.
I cant count how many times that the whole LLLC has posted that video for you for the exact same reason of proving TK in Zelda.
As for the "casting a spell for ages" claim, Ganondorf can materialize physical objects with a thought or gesture (such as a jedi waving his hand for a mind trick). Take the organ that Ganondorf was playing in OoT, for example.
Ganon can TK a dimension-porting, castle-busting, bridge TKing being (Midna) with a GLANCE. Ganon's TK busts Kain's balls.
Originally posted by Burning thought ]Do anything? how far away was Ganondorf? we dont even know how long it took for him to do said powers, he could have been casting the spells for ages and used a vast number of time consuming gestures and theres nowhere Ganon can go that Kain cannot follow with a quick teleport or two.
Did you watch the video? Zelda had been hiding for 7 years, and he had no idea where she was. A few seconds after she reveals herself, he finds her and casts several spells in quick succession. Please stop making things up. Ganondorf presumably did this from his castle, a distance away from town.
Now tell me how Kain follows Ganondorf when he has no way of finding him. Ganondorf spellsnipes him.
Dante and Kratos are not in the same round in this fight. Demitri and Kratos would not distract Kain tbh.
Prove Kain can fight multiple powerful opponents while someone attacks him from a distance.
Originally posted by The Scenario
Did you watch the video? Zelda had been hiding for 7 years, and he had no idea where she was. A few seconds after she reveals herself, he finds her and casts several spells in quick succession. Please stop making things up. Ganondorf presumably did this from his castle, a distance away from town.Now tell me how Kain follows Ganondorf when he has no way of finding him. Ganondorf spellsnipes him.
Prove Kain can fight multiple powerful opponents while someone attacks him from a distance.
Ofc, hence how I know their slow. A few seconds? by the looks of it they have been in that environment more than a few seconds, we dont even know if hes been watching them sooner than that and waited for her to "let her guard down" as he says, the scenes quite ambigious and since we dont see Ganon casting, only the results of his casting we canno make claims can we? no....
No way of finding him? and Kain can erect a shield to reflect spells, if Ganon tries anything he will end up freezing himself and paralyzing himself. kains resisted reality warping magic anyway so its not like these things will do much.
I like how you add things, like "powerful opponents", their not powerful. One is slow, one can teleport but is featless and it wouldnt make a difference. Kain could still just teleport after Ganon since I would at least agree hes the most dangerous character in round 1.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Ofc, hence how I know their slow. A few seconds? by the looks of it they have been in that environment more than a few seconds, we dont even know if hes been watching them sooner than that and waited for her to "let her guard down" as he says, the scenes quite ambigious and since we dont see Ganon casting, only the results of his casting we canno make claims can we? no....
Ah, but we can make claims. We know that Ganondorf was able to cast a spell before his target could figure out what was happening and do anything about it. That is all that matters. Assuming, of course, that anything could be done about it... 🙄
Originally posted by Burning thought
Ofc, hence how I know their slow. A few seconds? by the looks of it they have been in that environment more than a few seconds, we dont even know if hes been watching them sooner than that and waited for her to "let her guard down" as he says, the scenes quite ambigious and since we dont see Ganon casting, only the results of his casting we canno make claims can we? no....
That's not how it works. Ganondorf is using magic to find Zelda. Zelda counters this by not being Zelda. She changes her skin color, eye color, and possibly gender. Ganondorf isn't looking for Shiek. However, as soon as Shiek becomes Zelda, Ganondorf finds her.
Then he casts several spells in a few seconds. We see the results quickly, so he is casting quickly.
No way of finding him? and Kain can erect a shield to reflect spells, if Ganon tries anything he will end up freezing himself and paralyzing himself. kains resisted reality warping magic anyway so its not like these things will do much.
Nice dodge. He doesn't have any way to find Ganon, does he? Also, prove this shield can reflect Ganondorf's spells. Also, magic warps reality by definition, so that is not impressive. Now prove it, anyway.
I like how you add things, like "powerful opponents", their not powerful. One is slow, one can teleport but is featless and it wouldnt make a difference. Kain could still just teleport after Ganon since I would at least agree hes the most dangerous character in round 1.
And I like how you're still dodging the question. Prove Kain can fight multiple opponents, and follow Ganondorf's teleporting. You've dodged that once before, so I'll just assume he can't.
Also, if you could prove that Kain is consistently fast, that'd be nice, too.
Originally posted by The Scenario
That's not how it works. Ganondorf is using magic to find Zelda. Zelda counters this by not being Zelda. She changes her skin color, eye color, and possibly gender. Ganondorf isn't looking for Shiek. However, as soon as Shiek becomes Zelda, Ganondorf finds her.
Then he casts several spells in a few seconds. We see the results quickly, so he is casting quickly.Nice dodge. He doesn't have any way to find Ganon, does he? Also, prove this shield can reflect Ganondorf's spells. Also, magic warps reality by definition, so that is not impressive. Now prove it, anyway.
And I like how you're still dodging the question. Prove Kain can fight multiple opponents, and follow Ganondorf's teleporting. You've dodged that once before, so I'll just assume he can't.
Also, if you could prove that Kain is consistently fast, that'd be nice, too.
But shes not Shiek in your vid, shes Zelda....so shes obviously been Zelda for a while.
If Ganon really can cast spells from miles away (their not going to be starting miles away) then no, I dont think Kain can see that far forwards although he can speak to Raziel without being present, the same way Ganon can speak to them so I am not 100% sure. Not that the scene is clear enough to know how far and how quickly Ganon can cast. The whole point of the shield is to reflect spells, simple fact. No I mean a huge region sized bubble warped everything inside it, similiar (if not superior) to how the full trueforce changed the golden land. It transformed animals, made the sky rain tears of fire, messed up vegetation etc and would expand to take the whole world, Kain was unharmed.
I am dodging it because its a strange question, anyone can fight multiple opponents and following one character who has just disapeared is kinda the first thing Kains going to do especially since its the most dangerous one. Also can you show me how fast Ganon teleports for the record? Kains fast when he attacks in Dimention teleport and in the moebius cutscene.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Ah, but we can make claims. We know that Ganondorf was able to cast a spell before his target could figure out what was happening and do anything about it. That is all that matters. Assuming, of course, that anything could be done about it... 🙄
Well his target iirc is not omnicient and she didnt know he was there. KMC fights start with all charatcers knowing what their supposed ot be fighting.
Originally posted by Burning thought
But shes not Shiek in your vid, shes Zelda....so shes obviously been Zelda for a while.If Ganon really can cast spells from miles away (their not going to be starting miles away) then no, I dont think Kain can see that far forwards although he can speak to Raziel without being present, the same way Ganon can speak to them so I am not 100% sure. Not that the scene is clear enough to know how far and how quickly Ganon can cast. The whole point of the shield is to reflect spells, simple fact. No I mean a huge region sized bubble warped everything inside it, similiar (if not superior) to how the full trueforce changed the golden land. It transformed animals, made the sky rain tears of fire, messed up vegetation etc and would expand to take the whole world, Kain was unharmed.
I am dodging it because its a strange question, anyone can fight multiple opponents and following one character who has just disapeared is kinda the first thing Kains going to do especially since its the most dangerous one. Also can you show me how fast Ganon teleports for the record? Kains fast when he attacks in Dimention teleport and in the moebius cutscene.
Well his target iirc is not omnicient and she didnt know he was there. KMC fights start with all charatcers knowing what their supposed ot be fighting.
If I was an ass, I'd say that you were implying Kain is omniscient. But I know what you are really saying, and you are right. But, Ganondorf can teleport, dimensional port and go invisible/intangible. So, he can attack from an unknown location.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
If I was an ass, I'd say that you were implying Kain is omniscient. But I know what you are really saying, and you are right. But, Ganondorf can teleport, dimensional port and go invisible/intangible. So, he can attack from an unknown location.
Kain can do two of those things, all of them in this fight since ive given him the powers of his sons. only Kain can see invisible/intangible beings through dimensions so its not going to help Ganon.