Kain vs little Gauntlet

Started by Burning thought20 pages

Originally posted by LLLLLink
1. Link can teleport. Farore's Wind or Ocarina of Time.

2. Sheik can teleport. No item necessary.

And neither did to disguise themselves in canon

What are you talking about?

Also, what is the greatest distance Kain has ever teleported? He has only done so short distances as I can recall.

Originally posted by Burning thought
And neither did to disguise themselves in canon

What?

Originally posted by NemeBro
What are you talking about?

Also, what is the greatest distance Kain has ever teleported? He has only done so short distances as I can recall.

"possibly" from his throne to the chronoplast chamber. perhaps several miles. Moot point tbh, Kain can teleport more than once.

Kain can teleport more than once.
And each port requires a gesture and some time.

No it doesnt, it only takes 2 seconds to teleport 5 times. 0.2 each. Ganons going to be messing about with his little spells and failing every time Kain teleports, then he has to re-acquire his target and try again. only to find ofc hes dead because Kains found him.

Cutscene > gameplay.

Edit: LOL @ Kain killing Ganondorf. Featless ineffective spells and low end strength = totally useless against Ganon.

yeh, and cutscene does not contradict gameplay.....or a seperate power form the one shown in cutscene.

You're assuming they're a seperate power.

No, I use powers of perception to see their completly different in both source of power, or otherwise. And if they were the same power, AG pointed out that they have roughly the same startup time. Infact Kain was obviously taking his time, most of the time was just Kain putting his hands together.

This teleport may be faster.

But how far can it reach? It's useless if he can only do a few feet.

A few feet? based on what we can actually see, he teleports about 20 meters, give or take per teleport. 2.5 teleports a second , so 50 m/s?

Based on assumption, he can travel a mile or so in a teleport as he teleports from his throne, then to a distant location a mile away, we dont see him appear so he may have teleported several times to get there.

Based on logic, space is not technically being physically covered. Therefore distance is moot.

To be fair, Kain turns himself into a swarm of bats for traveling longer distances.

He could do that as well. infact thats a good point, considering the battlefield is flat. Kain can see Ganon as soon as he takes flight. Then just teleport/fly to him.

Easy kill is easy.

Yeah, shooting down a swarm of bats is cake for Ganon.

Originally posted by Burning thought
[B]A few feet? based on what we can actually see, he teleports about 20 meters, give or take per teleport. 2.5 teleports a second , so 50 m/s?

The dimensional teleport I assume you're using didn't move far at all. He attacked a few people quickly, but that's it.


Based on assumption, he can travel a mile or so in a teleport as he teleports from his throne, then to a distant location a mile away, we dont see him appear so he may have teleported several times to get there.

Is this the same teleport, or the different source you keep going on about?


Based on logic, space is not technically being physically covered. Therefore distance is moot.

Therefore Ganondorf can teleport anywhere and Kain will never find him. He'll keep attacking from logically infinite distance until Kain is worn down.

Originally posted by Burning thought
No it doesnt, it only takes 2 seconds to teleport 5 times. 0.2 each. Ganons going to be messing about with his little spells and failing every time Kain teleports, then he has to re-acquire his target and try again. only to find ofc hes dead because Kains found him.

Ganondorf holds Kain in place with TK, and if that isn't good enough for you, then he uses the rose crystal which even a seasoned teleporter (Zelda/Sheik) could not escape.

Kain cannot escape.

@Shin: Ganon's flame bats kill Kain bats.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yeah, shooting down a swarm of bats is cake for Ganon.

Possible, but those bats are hella fast.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Ganondorf holds Kain in place with TK, and if that isn't good enough for you, then he uses the rose crystal which even a seasoned teleporter (Zelda/Sheik) could not escape.

Kain cannot escape.

@Shin: Ganon's flame bats kill Kain bats.

They didnt try to escape, we dont even see him cast it so we dont know how fast he can do it. And Tk is worthless, Kains too strong to be held by Ganons weak TK and can mist/teleport or transform to be free, its prob more likely kain TKs Ganon.

Yes he can, easily. Chances are Kain will reflect Ganons magic with his shield and Ganon will be the one frozen in a crystal.

Assuming Kain doesnt just find Ganon and then reform, then teleport and rip Ganon apart like a rubber duck.

Originally posted by The Scenario
The dimensional teleport I assume you're using didn't move far at all. He attacked a few people quickly, but that's it.

Is this the same teleport, or the different source you keep going on about?

Therefore Ganondorf can teleport anywhere and Kain will never find him. He'll keep attacking from logically infinite distance until Kain is worn down.

No, I am refering to when he fought the Elder God, he was in a small chasm roughply 20-30 meters deep and he teleported to the top. I am using the dimentional teleport for speed, as its the only time Kains teleported more than once in rapid sucession.

This is the teleport where he just disapears and re-appears somewhere else without gestures or magic.

Yes because Kains ever going to be worn down, its more likely Ganon will.

But enough from Kains teleport, show me Ganons teleport, its speed and the distance its coverd please.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Possible, but those bats are hella fast.

Far too fast for Ganon to react to let alone attack. Same with Kains reform.

Hmm. Maybe I missed it, but where does the fight takes place exactly?