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Pathetic as they were, though, they served me well. Their anguish was my nourishment. Their hatred bled across the void and awaked me. I drew deep of it and grew strong again.
Ganondorf confirmed to survive on SHEER. HATRED.
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Pathetic as they were, though, they served me well. Their anguish was my nourishment. Their hatred bled across the void and awaked me. I drew deep of it and grew strong again.
Ganondorf confirmed to survive on SHEER. HATRED.
0:05 Beast Ganon defeated, body fading.
1:00 Giant god head manifests itself.
2:00 Fight with Midna
2:40 Ganon with new body and horse from nowhere.
Ganondorf is able to recreate his body if it is destroyed. Just saying, not that it has much to do with this battle.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
1. She couldn't because the barrier was up. Duh.2. !!! OBJECTION!!!
3. Master Sword is awesome like that. Protection and stuff.
1. Assertion, prove it.
2. I see a levitating castle, not Ganon levitating it.
3. It doesnt do anything of the sort. Your overhyping it to the max.
Originally posted by The Scenario
It means he was casting the spell. He's been looking for Zelda for 7 years, all over Hyrule. He's covering a huge area with whatever he used to track her, and when she's revealed, it takes only a few seconds to find her. When he said, "let your guard down" he was talking about her dropping the Sheik disquise.Ganondorf can make himself invisible. Sun blocking storm + eternal night + darkness technique. The rain would probably kill Kain.
What do you mean?
Ganondorf found one person out of an entire country. A smaller area to search will likely yield a faster result. Why do you think teleporting will break the search, anyway? If he's in the same general area, it will be too easy.
He teleported Zelda to his castle, at least. And he could still cast all the way to the Forest Temple.
Watch the whole thing. He goes intangible, leaving afterimages, the disappears and reappears somewhere.
Likely because he paralyzed her.
His castle is floating over a lake of lava/
2:50 ish.
Quick spellcast based on effects, targeted at Zelda.
Again, she was paralyzed. Same will happen to Kain.
See previous vid.
I don't really see it.
Which according to you was dropped for about 10 seconds.
And Kain can see the immaterial and invisible. Ganondorfs got nothing. And if you think rain can kill Kain then you know nothing about the character, but youve proven that already.
You dont know what the word unique means?
Making the big fat assumption that he is actually looking at an area and is not casting a spell of some sort to find Zelda personally. Or is watching Link personally etc, infact the whole thing is ambigious.
I did watch it, at what point exactly did he teleport?
Just answered these points to the person who posted them, you copying his argument is redundant.
Paralyzed? lol, Kains got nothing to paralyze, his body is physically dead, hes not even got a heart.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Sorry to butt in, but couldn't Ganon just run until Kain dies from lack of blood?
Ganondorf would not be able to hide long enough for any vampire to die from lack of blood. And Kain doesnt need blood anymore, his animated solely because hes the scion of balance, hes not even magically or spiritually animated anymore.
Originally posted by The Scenario
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Sounds like narrative, and hes not going to exist after Kain takes his soul and destroys it.
Originally posted by Burning thought
1. Assertion, prove it.
Zelda was paralyzed. Couldn't do anything.
2. I see a levitating castle, not Ganon levitating it.
3. It doesnt do anything of the sort. Your overhyping it to the max.
Which according to you was dropped for about 10 seconds.
And Kain can see the immaterial and invisible. Ganondorfs got nothing. And if you think rain can kill Kain then you know nothing about the character, but youve proven that already.
One of the videos you posted ("wound begin to close immediately"😉 stated that vampires are weak to water. If it doesn't kill Kain, it can mess him up.
http://legacyofkain.wikia.com/wiki/Survive_by_Water
He doesn't even have a spell to protect himself.
You dont know what the word unique means?
Making the big fat assumption that he is actually looking at an area and is not casting a spell of some sort to find Zelda personally. Or is watching Link personally etc, infact the whole thing is ambigious.
I did watch it, at what point exactly did he teleport?
Just answered these points to the person who posted them, you copying his argument is redundant.
Paralyzed? lol, Kains got nothing to paralyze, his body is physically dead, hes not even got a heart.
Ganondorf would not be able to hide long enough for any vampire to die from lack of blood. And Kain doesnt need blood anymore, his animated solely because hes the scion of balance, hes not even magically or spiritually animated anymore.
Sounds like narrative, and hes not going to exist after Kain takes his soul and destroys it.
And then he feeds on Kain's hate and comes back.
Considering Ganondorf can coexist as both Phantom Ganon and himself. His soul isn't an issue.
In TP, he could have multiple Phantom Ganons.
Originally posted by The Scenario
Zelda was paralyzed. Couldn't do anything.Why is it levitating, then?
There have been multpile statements that the Master Sword has a negative effect on magic.
Which has nothing to do with it.
It's a spell designed to make him invisible. Has Kain seen through something like it?
One of the videos you posted ("wound begin to close immediately"😉 stated that vampires are weak to water. If it doesn't kill Kain, it can mess him up.
http://legacyofkain.wikia.com/wiki/Survive_by_Water
He doesn't even have a spell to protect himself.I do, but you haven't answered the question. Is it one unique teleport, or are both unique?
Beside the point. He found her over an entire country. How he did so doesn't matter as it can still be applied to Kain, while Kain has no way of countering.
Any time he moved and left afterimages. Then he disappears and reappears. How you can't see this, I don't know.
I was ninja'd.
It's a spell. Magic. Zelda couldn't move, and neither will Kain when he gets hit.
Too bad Ganondorf can hide forever. Kain can't find him, and Ganondorf can still teleport.
And then he feeds on Kain's hate and comes back.
In TP, he could have multiple Phantom Ganons.
Proof? I could see her tapping on the crystal for a while.
I dont know, I am not one to make wild guesses like Link fans.
multiple statements based on ambigious effects? you didnt sound like you had an actual feat for the sword in mind.
nothing to do with it? your claim a min ago was that he cast the spell when she "let down her guard", he says this as well. This proves it likely that he takes 10 seconds to begin his spell casting at least otherwise he wouldnt have let her have 10 seconds of freedom.
Hes seen through invisible AND intangible beings. The Elder God being a planet sized nigh omnicient entity being the example.
It burns them like acid, it would take a long while for a human immersed in acid to be destroyed and as Raziel shows, an incredible long time for a durable vampire.
If its unique then obviously they both have to be, if they were the same it would not be unique. Their different teleports.
How do you know it can be applied to Kain who is going to be teleporting, transforming etc. Kain will find Ganon before long anyway.
Afterimages are not teleportation.....
It is magic, whos feats were to cause paralysis (or what you assume to be) in a young woman fully alive. You cant physically paralyse a corpse.
And Kain can teleport forever and no he cant, your assuming that Ganondorf is ammazingly lucky and kian doesnt just port nearby. Considering Kain can teleport 5 times per 2 seconds the chances of Ganon cowardly hiding for long is unlikely if not impossible.
I dont belive you that he came back from nothing or without a soul, show me?
Originally posted by Burning thought
Proof? I could see her tapping on the crystal for a while.
6:26 Zelda begins shaking like she can't control her body.
6:29 Zelda is completely still and appears to be in pain. She screams once and remains silent.
I dont know, I am not one to make wild guesses like Link fans.
multiple statements based on ambigious effects? you didnt sound like you had an actual feat for the sword in mind.
nothing to do with it? your claim a min ago was that he cast the spell when she "let down her guard", he says this as well. This proves it likely that he takes 10 seconds to begin his spell casting at least otherwise he wouldnt have let her have 10 seconds of freedom.
Hes seen through invisible AND intangible beings. The Elder God being a planet sized nigh omnicient entity being the example.
It burns them like acid, it would take a long while for a human immersed in acid to be destroyed and as Raziel shows, an incredible long time for a durable vampire.
If its unique then obviously they both have to be, if they were the same it would not be unique. Their different teleports.
How do you know it can be applied to Kain who is going to be teleporting, transforming etc. Kain will find Ganon before long anyway.
Afterimages are not teleportation.....
It is magic, whos feats were to cause paralysis (or what you assume to be) in a young woman fully alive. You cant physically paralyse a corpse.
And Kain can teleport forever and no he cant, your assuming that Ganondorf is ammazingly lucky and kian doesnt just port nearby. Considering Kain can teleport 5 times per 2 seconds the chances of Ganon cowardly hiding for long is unlikely if not impossible.
I don't think you understand. Kain does not know where Ganondorf is, and Ganondorf is invisible. Try finding one person in a huge area at night, in a storm, and they happen to be invisible and they know where you are. Just because Kain can do a few teleports in quick succession does not mean he'll find Ganondorf. Kain could be teleporting in the completely wrong direction, because he doesn't even know where his opponent is. Further, he's dealing with wind, rain, and Ganondorf's long range spellcasting. And he has to fight 2 other opponents. You're assuming Kain is luckier than Master Chief, finding Ganondorf. And since Ganondorf knows where Kain is, he can teleport away when Kain gets close.
Kain has no chance, as this is literally impossible. Ganondorf waits Kain out and wears him down. The rain will get him eventually, if the spells don't.
I dont belive you that he came back from nothing or without a soul, show me?
Originally posted by LLLLLink
He's been told enough about Zelda to be a walking encyclopedia on it,
Glad youve noticed, hence why I can call out BS every time I see without being ignorant on the series. I have seen almost every important feat for these characters and they are quite lowly, its only a ton of overhyping and assumptions that can place them at any higher tier in KMC. Fanon does not make canon.
Scenario I will reply to you tomorrow perhaps, or later.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Glad youve noticed, hence why I can call out BS every time I see without being ignorant on the series. I have seen almost every important feat for these characters and they are quite lowly, its only a ton of overhyping and assumptions that can place them at any higher tier in KMC. Fanon does not make canon.Scenario I will reply to you tomorrow perhaps, or later.
Like I said, he's hurt Zelda being better. 🙂
It's ok, little buddy.
Originally posted by The Scenario
YouTube video6:26 Zelda begins shaking like she can't control her body.
6:29 Zelda is completely still and appears to be in pain. She screams once and remains silent.It's a floating castle. Now, castles don't normally float, so it's likely magic. Most likely explanation is a spell. Ganondorf is the most powerful spellcaster there. Occam's razor, simplest explanation is that Ganondorf did it.
I assumed you would remember past matches. The ones where it was repeatedly proved that the Master Sword could reflect magic. The Twilight Realm, for example. Now, we're Link into it again. He's not here.
My claim was that he found someone quickly over a huge distance. Ganondorf already knows where Kain is, so the area to search is smaller. What makes you so confident that teleporting will break the lock? Zelda only escaped by changing everything about her with magic. We know she can teleport. Prove that Kain can escape Ganondorf's lock.
if I let this kid wander around."
And stop taking that quote out of context. "But you let your guard down...I knew you would [b]appear
She let her guard down by being Zelda.But he hasn't seen through invisibility spells?
So it will harm him. That's a major distraction, and Ganondorf can wait him out.
Kain is dealing with constant pain from water, Kratos attacking him, Demitri attacking him, and Ganondorf casting spells he can't see coming. If he devotes any time to fighting the others, Gannondorf will have him.If they're different, why are you combining their feats?
Prove Kain can break it by teleporting. If anything, turning into bats is his best bet. Yet he can't do anything like that. Wind and rain are going to severely hamper him that way.
But disappearing and reappearing somewhere else is. Do you not see him completely disappearing?
I assume it to be paralysis, yes. It's possible that it's TK. You know, he did the same thing to Phantom Ganon.
I don't think you understand. Kain does not know where Ganondorf is, and Ganondorf is invisible. Try finding one person in a huge area at night, in a storm, and they happen to be invisible and they know where you are. Just because Kain can do a few teleports in quick succession does not mean he'll find Ganondorf. Kain could be teleporting in the completely wrong direction, because he doesn't even know where his opponent is. Further, he's dealing with wind, rain, and Ganondorf's long range spellcasting. And he has to fight 2 other opponents. You're assuming Kain is luckier than Master Chief, finding Ganondorf. And since Ganondorf knows where Kain is, he can teleport away when Kain gets close.
Kain has no chance, as this is literally impossible. Ganondorf waits Kain out and wears him down. The rain will get him eventually, if the spells don't.I don't think he can. But hey, Ganondorf has already won by this point. [/B]
You lied to me, you said only 10 seconds. It seems Zelda transforms to her true form at 3:10 and Ganon has a good few minutes before he uses any powers. It seems the shaking of the castle is also part of the cast time, it stops shaking after Zelda is imprisoned and that paralyzation what ever it is, is slow. Kain could have become mist/teleported before it had taken any effect.
So Ganon cannot Tk castles? your now assuming a spell did it.....that would be my "assumption" as well....does not make it true, we just dont know. And Occams Razor is a theory for making assumptions, not facts.
I did remember past matches, reflected energy or bolts is not a reason to say it can resist all magic, effects or certainly not TK. But yes, Link is not part of this.
Quickly? in your vid Zelda is her true form for about 3 minutes, thats an incredible amount of time for kain. Because then Kain is not inside the prison and if she can escape just by charging it with magic then it shows its not as paralyzing as you would have me belive. We know she can teleport but didnt do it or even try so not feat for the crystal.
No he has not iirc, but he has seen through invisiblity, so he wont apprently see the spell but he will still see Ganon once hes invisible 😉
What will harm him? rain doesnt harm Kain, he took blood in the first game to become immune to percipitation.
Because the only thing different is the way Kain is using them and how they work. Overall teleports works similiar. Also i dont know how fast after the initial use of the teleport kain is in the Elder God one. But as I said, distance is moot when distance is not technically being travelled.
I missed it it would seem. Show me the vid and the exact time it happens please.
And Ganondorf based on ambigious evidence takes 2/3 minutes to take on Zelda and his spells are too slow. Even assuming he can follow a quickly teleporting Kain (I doubt it, theres no evidence to suggest) he is still too slow at casting spells to get Kain in anything, and said spells are useless anyway. Kain just teleports into the sky, spots Ganondorf who thinks hes invisible to Kain and then Kain just rips him apart after teleporting next to him. even if Ganon can see Kain when he appears after each teleport, Ganondorf does not know where Kain will teleport next. Hence why he is screwed.
No he has not iirc, but he has seen through invisiblity, so he wont apprently see the spell but he will still see Ganon once hes invisibleLie. The spirit reaver only allowed Kain to see into the Spectral Realm.
Kain just teleports into the sky, spots Ganondorf who thinks hes invisible to Kain and then Kain just rips him apart after teleporting next to him.Seeing as Kain literally cannot hurt Ganondorf, even if he could see him, teleporting next ot Ganon would just make it easier for Ganondorf to kill him.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lie. The spirit reaver only allowed Kain to see into the Spectral Realm.
Seeing as Kain literally cannot hurt Ganondorf, even if he could see him, teleporting next ot Ganon would just make it easier for Ganondorf to kill him.
It allowed him to see the Elder god. Just being able to see into the spectral realm would not guarantee that he could see the Elder God as well.
Also, it wasn't invisibility, as Raziel could see him before Moebius and Kain could via the Spirit/Soul Reaver.