Kain vs little Gauntlet

Originally posted by Burning thought
They didnt try to escape, we dont even see him cast it so we dont know how fast he can do it. And Tk is worthless, Kains too strong to be held by Ganons weak TK and can mist/teleport or transform to be free, its prob more likely kain TKs Ganon.

Yes he can, easily. Chances are Kain will reflect Ganons magic with his shield and Ganon will be the one frozen in a crystal.

Assuming Kain doesnt just find Ganon and then reform, then teleport and rip Ganon apart like a rubber duck.

Utter garbage. Fecal flows from thy lips.

1. Zelda couldn't get out. She obviously wanted out as shown by her pressing against the crystal.

2. Kain's TK resistance is some of the most sad in gaming. Jedi show more resistance to TK than Kain. Kain was tossed like a ragdoll when he fought Raziel. This proves that Kain has zero resistance to TK. Ganon has been able to TK powerful magic entities with a glance (Midna w/ Fused Shadow).

3. Kain wont reflect this, for he is not the target of the magic. The space around Kain gets surrounded and engulfed by the barrier, and Kain gets trapped.

Not that any of Kain's magic has feats.

But yeah, Kain's too weak and frail to resist any of Ganon's magic, and his own magic is too featless to interfere with or harm Ganon.

/thread.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Utter garbage. Fecal flows from thy lips.

1. Zelda couldn't get out. She obviously wanted out as shown by her pressing against the crystal.

2. Kain's TK resistance is some of the most shitty in gaming. Jedi show more resistance to TK than Kain. Kain was tossed like a ragdoll when he fought Raziel. This proves that Kain has zero resistance to TK. Ganon has been able to TK powerful magic entities with a glance (Midna w/ Fused Shadow).

3. Kain wont reflect this, for he is not the target of the magic. The space around Kain gets surrounded and engulfed by the barrier, and Kain gets trapped.

1. Wanted out, but didnt try to teleport.....

2. Yes because Kain lifting heavier objects than an imp and a young women make his TK inferior to dorfs...oh wait. Jedi? your saying that like its a bad thing, they show a better resistance to it than Dorf as well...lol, why Jedi was brought up I dont know. Midna never used TK on Ganondorf.

3. Can you prove this? that Kain is not the target? sounds like bull.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Hmm. Maybe I missed it, but where does the fight takes place exactly?

I never specified a location iirc, guess its just a plain flat ground with infnite distance in all directions. No use putting anything like mountains or cities in the way.

Originally posted by Burning thought

I never specified a location iirc, guess its just a plain flat ground with infnite distance in all directions. No use putting anything like mountains or cities in the way.

He could see the bats incoming depending on how far they are.

1. Wanted out, but didnt try to teleport.....

2. Yes because Kain lifting heavier objects than an imp and a young women make his TK inferior to dorfs...

3. Can you prove this? that Kain is not the target? sounds like bull.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. Wanted out, but didnt try to teleport.....

2. Yes because Kain lifting heavier objects than an imp and a young women make his TK inferior to dorfs...oh wait. Jedi? your saying that like its a bad thing, they show a better resistance to it than Dorf as well...lol, why Jedi was brought up I dont know. Midna never used TK on Ganondorf.

3. Can you prove this? that Kain is not the target? sounds like bull.

1. Doesn't matter. Barrier is able to trap teleporters. End of story.

2. Kain got tossed by Raziel's effortless TK. Kain gets owned by Ganondorf's passive castle-levitating for infinity TK.

3. The crystal engulfs a wide area (person is already trapped at this point) and then shrinks the crystal and encloses said person in a small space. The person never gets touched or influenced during the process.

Edit: Shin sniped me at number 2.

Originally posted by Burning thought
They didnt try to escape, we dont even see him cast it so we dont know how fast he can do it. And Tk is worthless, Kains too strong to be held by Ganons weak TK and can mist/teleport or transform to be free, its prob more likely kain TKs Ganon.

Why don't we know how fast it is again? Ganondorf said something, and then Zelda was in a crystal. We saw the effect quickly, so he casts the spell quickly.
Has Kain resisted TK? Anyway, Ganon's looks to be more powerful based on things it's done.

Yes he can, easily. Chances are Kain will reflect Ganons magic with his shield and Ganon will be the one frozen in a crystal.

In which case Ganondorf dismisses the spell and recasts it.

Assuming Kain doesnt just find Ganon and then reform, then teleport and rip Ganon apart like a rubber duck.

He can't find Ganondorf.

No, I am refering to when he fought the Elder God, he was in a small chasm roughply 20-30 feet deep and he teleported to the top. I am using the dimentional teleport for speed, as its the only time Kains teleported more than once in rapid sucession.

There we go. The teleport used around the Elder God and the Dimensional teleport. Are they or are they not the same one?

This is the teleport where he just disapears and re-appears somewhere else without gestures or magic.

Yes because Kains ever going to be worn down, its more likely Ganon will.

But enough from Kains teleport, show me Ganons teleport, its speed and the distance its coverd please.

As you can see, it's extremely quick. Possibly 0.2 or less. According to you, distance does not matter as space isn't covered.

Far too fast for Ganon to react to let alone attack. Same with Kains reform. [/B]

Yet Ganonforf can teleport too quickly for Kain.

Ganon dopplegangers. 👆

Ganon teleports from his castle to Hyrule field and creates a horse for himself instantly in TP. 😎

Ganondorf materializes object at will. Organ in OoT.

Shin, did you get my Triforce of Courage note?

YouTube video

Zant using Ganondorf's power.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Ganondorf materializes object at will. Organ in OoT.

Shin, did you get my Triforce of Courage note?

I'd like to see some Triforce notes, too. 😬

Send it to him, Shin, if you still have it. Edit to your tastes.

Basically, the Triforce of Courage can fully heal Link's life energy at a given moment. There may be some factors, but the effect is solid.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Send it to him, Shin, if you still have it. Edit to your tastes.

Basically, the Triforce of Courage can fully heal Link's life energy at a given moment. There may be some factors, but the effect is solid.

Are you talking about that part in OoT where Link is healed before the fight with Ganondorf after the ToC appears on his hand?

Yes indeed. Might have something to do with the other pieces, but I don't think so.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Why don't we know how fast it is again? Ganondorf said something, and then Zelda was in a crystal. We saw the effect quickly, so he casts the spell quickly.
Has Kain resisted TK? Anyway, Ganon's looks to be more powerful based on things it's done.

In which case Ganondorf dismisses the spell and recasts it.

He can't find Ganondorf.

There we go. The teleport used around the Elder God and the Dimensional teleport. Are they or are they not the same one?

But are the two teleports different?

Kain can't find him, and the only thing he has that might threaten Ganondorf is the shield, which has no feats and likely can't reflect spells over vast distances.

YouTube video

As you can see, it's extremely quick. Possibly 0.2 or less. According to you, distance does not matter as space isn't covered.

Yet Ganonforf can teleport too quickly for Kain.

Ganon said something, that does not mean he was not doing anything to cast the spell in the 10 seconds Zelda has been actually Zelda and not shiek. We dont know how hes used the spell, we cant make assumptions just because she happened to be taken then and there. Otherwise if shes not been Shiek for the 10 seconds why didnt he just do it then and there? looks to me he has to surprise them first, otherwise he wouldnt have said "waited to let your guard down".

Yes he can, flat ground+air advantage. Ganon would be seen easily.

Their unique.

Ganon cant find Kain, one teleport and hes lost. And thats BS, if their both teleporting, Kain will eventually find Ganon.

According to logic, if we used the idea that teleports are limited then I take that as Ganon has no feats of moving any distance other than a few feet, I lold. And thats not as fast as Kain, Kain can make 5 teleports in like 2 seconds, 0.2-0.3 each.

Also whens the teleport? all I see is Ganon moving slowly from one area of the room to another, he doesnt even properly disapear or reform or anything...

Originally posted by LLLLLink
1. Doesn't matter. Barrier is able to trap teleporters. End of story.

2. Kain got tossed by Raziel's effortless TK. Kain gets owned by Ganondorf's passive castle-levitating for infinity TK.

3. The crystal engulfs a wide area (person is already trapped at this point) and then shrinks the crystal and encloses said person in a small space. The person never gets touched or influenced during the process.

Edit: Shin sniped me at number 2.

1. Teleports who dont teleport, end of story.

2. Ganondorfs never levitated a castle.

3. Not that wide at all, unkown spellcast time, unkown target. The target was Zelda, otherwise Link could have been taken if your claiming its based no area.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Since she teleports with a thought, much more quickly than Kain, and spends a long time off screen, not only can you not say this, but it's not exactly logical you can trap a teleporter inside something that doesn't stop teleportation.
Castle.
doesn't matter, because Kain has no defense.

1. If shes not tried to teleport then its not a feat, end of story. None of your pointless, non feat deductions thank you, or fanon btw.

2. hes never tked a castle, hes made a slight little earthquake which may not have even been Tk.

3. He does.

Originally posted by Burning thought

1. Teleports who dont teleport, end of story.

2. Ganondorfs never levitated a castle.

3. Not that wide at all, unkown spellcast time, unkown target. The target was Zelda, otherwise Link could have been taken if your claiming its based no area.

1. She couldn't because the barrier was up. Duh.

2. !!! OBJECTION!!!

3. Master Sword is awesome like that. Protection and stuff.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Ganon said something, that does not mean he was not doing anything to cast the spell in the 10 seconds Zelda has been actually Zelda and not shiek. We dont know how hes used the spell, we cant make assumptions just because she happened to be taken then and there. Otherwise if shes not been Shiek for the 10 seconds why didnt he just do it then and there? looks to me he has to surprise them first, otherwise he wouldnt have said "waited to let your guard down".

It means he was casting the spell. He's been looking for Zelda for 7 years, all over Hyrule. He's covering a huge area with whatever he used to track her, and when she's revealed, it takes only a few seconds to find her. When he said, "let your guard down" he was talking about her dropping the Sheik disquise.

Yes he can, flat ground+air advantage. Ganon would be seen easily.

Their unique.

Ganon cant find Kain, one teleport and hes lost. And thats BS, if their both teleporting, Kain will eventually find Ganon.

Ganondorf found one person out of an entire country. A smaller area to search will likely yield a faster result. Why do you think teleporting will break the search, anyway? If he's in the same general area, it will be too easy.

According to logic, if we used the idea that teleports are limited then I take that as Ganon has no feats of moving any distance other than a few feet, I lold. And thats not as fast as Kain, Kain can make 5 teleports in like 2 seconds, 0.2-0.3 each.

He teleported Zelda to his castle, at least. And he could still cast all the way to the Forest Temple.

Also whens the teleport? all I see is Ganon moving slowly from one area of the room to another, he doesnt even properly disapear or reform or anything...

Watch the whole thing. He goes intangible, leaving afterimages, the disappears and reappears somewhere.

1. Teleports who dont teleport, end of story.

Likely because he paralyzed her.

2. Ganondorfs never levitated a castle.

YouTube video

2:50 ish.

3. Not that wide at all, unkown spellcast time, unkown target. The target was Zelda, otherwise Link could have been taken if your claiming its based no area.

Quick spellcast based on effects, targeted at Zelda.

1. If shes not tried to teleport then its not a feat, end of story. None of your pointless, non feat deductions thank you, or fanon btw.

2. hes never tked a castle, hes made a slight little earthquake which may not have even been Tk.

3. He does.

I don't really see it.

Ganon cant find Kain, one teleport and hes lost. And thats BS, if their both teleporting, Kain will eventually find Ganon.

Sorry to butt in, but couldn't Ganon just run until Kain dies from lack of blood?