Kain vs Team

Originally posted by Burning thought
No its not, Magnetos target is hte metal itself and he is creating magnetic forces, physical forces strong enough to tear it. Kains using non physical magic.

wtf, your trying to claim that just because they were agitated in boxes that thats comparable to a spell that inspires them into a frenzy of actual hate? lulz....

The low temperature of the mist kills it 😎

Force itself isn't physical, it's all immaterial. Magnetism would work no different than magic.

Well, yeah. They're constantly trying to escape and have been subjected to this constantly. They don't sleep, they only eat when fed. They're pretty pissed.

It's not nearly cold enough. Good joke though. I actually did laugh at that one. No sargasm that time.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Force itself isn't physical, it's all immaterial. Magnetism would work no different than magic.

Well, yeah. They're constantly trying to escape and have been subjected to this constantly. They don't sleep, they only eat when fed. They're pretty pissed.

It's not nearly cold enough. Good joke though. I actually did laugh at that one. No sargasm that time.

You need certain amount of force to affect a physical object. Blood shower uses no such force, it uses magic.

😛

You're just flat out ignoring things now. 😐

This thread is no fun when you quit trying BT. Get creative.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You're just flat out ignoring things now. 😐

This thread is no fun when you quit trying BT. Get creative.

I could say the same about you, even your example of Mageneto has a guy who controls actual forces that can manipulate physical objects based on physical limits. This is not magic which as blood shower points out is its source.

The thread is getting boring and I dont know enough about anyone past Round 1 to become interested in this thread. If you can actually post vids of the best feats of these characters then it may help.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I could say the same about you, even your example of Mageneto has a guy who controls actual forces that can manipulate physical objects based on physical limits. This is not magic which as blood shower points out is its source.

The thread is getting boring and I dont know enough about anyone past Round 1 to become interested in this thread. If you can actually post vids of the best feats of these characters then it may help.

Magnetism isn't really any different. Neither is Telekinesis. Immaterial forces are still forces and do physical damage, regardless of they themselves not being physical.

To be honest. Kain didn't make it past Round 1, he died. But I wanted him to continue to watch you debate this stuff. But way to pretend you're above it all. Even I know that you'll say Kain can't beat Round 4. But as I predicted you debated 2 and 3.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Magnetism isn't really any different. Neither is Telekinesis. Immaterial forces are still forces and do physical damage, regardless of they themselves not being physical.

To be honest. Kain didn't make it past Round 1, he died. But I wanted him to continue to watch you debate this stuff. But way to pretend you're above it all. Even I know that you'll say Kain can't beat Round 4. But as I predicted you debated 2 and 3.

not this one, Blood shower is nothing to do with physical damage, its not attacking anything physically and your examples show how poorly your grasping this fact. Your bringing up magnetism that has a direct correlation to strength required to lift heavy/physical objects and trying to compare it to something like a non physical magical force.

No he didnt, he won silly 🙄 . I am above it all, Round 1 is easy, the rest as I pointed out I dont know so much about.

Originally posted by Burning thought
not this one, Blood shower is nothing to do with physical damage, its not attacking anything physically and your examples show how poorly your grasping this fact. Your bringing up magnetism that has a direct correlation to strength required to lift heavy/physical objects and trying to compare it to something like a non physical magical force.

No he didnt, he won silly 🙄 . I am above it all, Round 1 is easy, the rest as I pointed out I dont know so much about.

You realize what you just said? "Magnetism is material. Magic is immaterial." You are also trying to prove Kain created a hole in a person's body without affecting the body at all. And it makes sense because he used maaaaaaagic.

There were problems with that. Their names are Kratos, Dante and Mercer.

You know enough about Dark Khan. You've seen Nanite Nick Fury before. The third guy even I don't know about, I just asked Scream for someone incredibly powerful.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
There were problems with that. Their names are Kratos, Dante and Mercer.

Bingo.

I remember he said Kratos was useless because the others will just teleport/run to where Kain is, far away from Kratos. The problem with that is that the fight is on the set of The View. I agree that Rosie O'Donnell is fat, but not fat enough that the set of the show is 5 miles wide.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I remember he said Kratos was useless because the others will just teleport/run to where Kain is, far away from Kratos. The problem with that is that the fight is on the set of The View. I agree that Rosie O'Donnell is fat, but not fat enough that the set of the show is 5 miles wide.

Meet Moby Spic yet?

should of used demonbane

horrendusly overpowered

oh boy is demonbane overpowered

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You realize what you just said? "Magnetism is material. Magic is immaterial." You are also trying to prove Kain created a hole in a person's body without affecting the body at all. And it makes sense because he used maaaaaaagic.

There were problems with that. Their names are Kratos, Dante and Mercer.

You know enough about Dark Khan. You've seen Nanite Nick Fury before. The third guy even I don't know about, I just asked Scream for someone incredibly powerful.

Magnetism is a force that works through physical objects, Magic is not. No, he made a hole with magic, although there are many thin piecies of skin on a body that can be exploited assuming durability was even a factor (its not, and never has been stated to be). He did use magic, magic that never physically struck the opponent.

Scratch two off, Kratos and Mercer are no problem. Dante can be scratched through TK.

I would need vids of their better feats to make any good decision.

Originally posted by Burning thought
[B]Magnetism is a force that works through physical objects, Magic is not. No, he made a hole with magic, although there are many thin piecies of skin on a body that can be exploited assuming durability was even a factor (its not, and never has been stated to be). He did use magic, magic that never physically struck the opponent.

"Never has been stated to be." Did you really just say that? No-limits, etc. and has never been proven to work on anything. Kain has to get the blood out, and "it's magic" won't cut it for you. Again, you seem to think he just teleport the blood out of someone, without having to go through anything in between. Prove he can do anything to anyone in this thread.

Again, you seem to think he just teleport the blood out of someone, without having to go through anything in between. Prove he can do anything to anyone in this thread.

Originally posted by The Scenario
"Never has been stated to be." Did you really just say that? No-limits, etc. and has never been proven to work on anything. Kain has to get the blood out, and "it's magic" won't cut it for you. Again, you seem to think he just teleport the blood out of someone, without having to go through anything in between. Prove he can do anything to anyone in this thread.

Durability has not been mentioned, its like saying being durable can protect your mind from mental attack. It doesnt.

Everyone in Round 1 is easy meat, whether by taking their blood, soul or freezing them in time. Or he could just give them a good whack.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Magnetism is a force that works through physical objects, Magic is not. No, he made a hole with magic, although there are many thin piecies of skin on a body that can be exploited assuming durability was even a factor (its not, and never has been stated to be). He did use magic, magic that never physically struck the opponent.

Scratch two off, Kratos and Mercer are no problem. Dante can be scratched through TK.

I would need vids of their better feats to make any good decision.

Immaterial forces are still immaterial. You are assuming that because magic is immaterial it doesn't affect things physically. So, yeah.

😆 Because Kain is totally capable of handling three opponents more powerful than him at the same time.

Dark Khan has the powers of Darkseid, who is capable of severely harming Superman, if I recall. Nanite Nick Fury contains the various powers of multiple Marvel superheroes. I'll quote the stuff from the gauntlet I made a long time ago.

Nanite Nick Fury can call upon the powers and abilities of anyone who has been taken into The Fold. In his boss fight, he displayed the strength of A-Bomb, the energy absorbing powers of Bishop, the Microwave powers of Firestar, the electricity of Electro, Spider-Woman's bio-venom, Multiple Man's duplication, and Havok's powers (I dunno wut they are).

He never demonstrated these abilities, but at the time of the fight we know that other super humans within the fold included Bullseye, Moonstone, Jack O'lantern, Grim Reaper, Diamondback, Wonderman, Colossus, Molten Man, She Hulk, Lady Deathstrike, Justice, Whirlwind and some others I have to get back to you on.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Immaterial forces are still immaterial. You are assuming that because magic is immaterial it doesn't affect things physically. So, yeah.

😆 Because Kain is totally capable of handling three opponents more powerful than him at the same time.

Dark Khan has the powers of Darkseid, who is capable of severely harming Superman, if I recall. Nanite Nick Fury contains the various powers of multiple Marvel superheroes. I'll quote the stuff from the gauntlet I made a long time ago.

No I am pointing out that this magic at least, unlike a fireball or an arcane energy blast is not striking anything physically or creating physical forces. It does not say anywhere that this is the case, your just trying to add random and illogical reasons to protect your characters.

No, thats not true. kain is easily capable of handling three opponents greatly inferior to him at the same time.

Does it say he has the powers of Darksied?

Ok so what do you think he can do to fight Kain? this Nick fury character?

Originally posted by Burning thought
No I am pointing out that this magic at least, unlike a fireball or an arcane energy blast is not striking anything physically or creating physical forces. It does not say anywhere that this is the case, your just trying to add random and illogical reasons to protect your characters.

No, thats not true. kain is easily capable of handling three opponents greatly inferior to him at the same time.

Does it say he has the powers of Darksied?

Ok so what do you think he can do to fight Kain? this Nick fury character?

Actually I'm saying he used the magical force to rip a hole open in the physical object. Where as you are saying he crossed his arms and nodded, and poof, there was a hole which he magically teleports the blood through even though it's technically not a hole in the body.

Eh what the hell, I've come this far already. So what is it that makes the three inferior to Kain? Is it greater speed? Greater strength and durability? Or perhaps the insane regeneration ability?

Dark Khan is a combination of Shao Khan and Darkseid. So, yeah, he has the powers of Darkseid.

Any magical type of energy sent at Fury is absorbed with Bishop's abilities, and he should be able to do that with the energy from physical blows as well. A-Bomb's strength is plenty to harm Kain with a punch. Justice's TK is cool to have. Electricity for fast movement is neat. If I recall, Grim Reaper's scythe can sap health and add it to him, too. So that's pretty cool. Between all of these abilities, Fury should have the thing you enjoy Kain for, options.

Havok's power is absorbing cosmic energy and using it as his own IIRC.

He is also immune to the optic blasts of Cyclops