Originally posted by Nephthys
If the force was hitting the rain they'd be splattering, like if they hit the ground. Its speed, hence why before we go into the Sparda bros perspective we can't even see their swords.
We can see their swords through most of the fight, if it was speed then the clash would not have created a dome of rain around them. It can only be force and it happens more than once.
Dante gets outclassed by slow jab to the chest with the hilt of Vergils weapon, and then a slow impalement. I just watched the full vid again, Dante was pushed back slightly by his sword being launched into the air but by the time of the impalement he is facing Vergil again, he is just leaving himself wide open and was too slow to react to the slow impale.
Vergil even hesitated as well. Kains not giving him that chance lol. Kain will not be fighting face to face either, not even physically off the bat. Kain will appear out of think air, behind Dante and strike without mercy. unfortunaltey, the reaver will kill him, not just wound.
Originally posted by Burning thought
And that means they were swinging randomly, see now none of that make any sense. As i said, weakest Dante without demon powers after a deadly fight with his superior with some PIS mixed in. Video shows us what happens and i just happen to be reciting it into words.
That PIS for Kain could of happened is thousands of ways. Him standing there begging was the worst possible way, so now we can take into account that he was hit by a obvious/slow attack. Ran so fast heat was coming off his hand=fast as hell. He 'ran' down that, gravity wouldnt pull him faster then 200 km/h. He went much faster. Dodged a shot from behind > Kain. His reaction time cant be beat here.
That would be true if there was no damage on the ground. But there is so this point is void. You still haven't proven that it stopped before. And the sword is connected to Dantes hands, and science says the enrgey has to keep moving. So Dante took the force. Wrong, its not a simple durability as Dante is standing strong. If he was crushed and survived then it would be durability. Strength feat.
''The rain wasnt moving because of the force'' ''The glass was moving so slow because of Alasors powers'' No and no for obvious reasons.
Originally posted by BloodRain
And that means they were swinging randomly, see now none of that make any sense. As i said, weakest Dante without demon powers after a deadly fight with his superior with some PIS mixed in. Video shows us what happens and i just happen to be reciting it into words.That PIS for Kain could of happened is thousands of ways. Him standing there begging was the worst possible way, so now we can take into account that he was hit by a obvious/slow attack. Ran so fast heat was coming off his hand=fast as hell. He 'ran' down that, gravity wouldnt pull him faster then 200 km/h. He went much faster. Dodged a shot from behind > Kain. His reaction time cant be beat here.
That would be true if there was no damage on the ground. But there is so this point is void. You still haven't proven that it stopped before. And the sword is connected to Dantes hands, and science says the enrgey has to keep moving. So Dante took the force. Wrong, its not a simple durability as Dante is standing strong. If he was crushed and survived then it would be durability. Strength feat.
''The rain wasnt moving because of the force'' ''The glass was moving so slow because of Alasors powers'' No and no for obvious reasons.
His superior based on skill, he was matching him in strength and his foolishness (from vergils mouth no less). You cant claim PIS when we see two moments of Dante getting his ass handed to him despite not being far from Vergil in strength and speed, hes just not as good in a fight it would seem and not as good reaction time.
Kains was realy PIS, Dantes was not PIS at all. Kain was defeated by someone slower, less powerful than him and he did nothing. Dante was bested fair and square, there was no PIS. Your using a PIS low showing for Kain vs Dante just not being good enough. Prove he went much faster?
Son of Sparda is right, it does increase his speed and Alastor irrc is not his default weapon. Rebellion is, I am not sure if he even uses Alastor anymore.
Nah, it hit his sword and I think it pushed him a short distance before it froze, thats it. It keeps moving, only far more diminished, it also keeps moving across the sword and out, not just through Dantes hands. Hes standing strong because Saviour froze, we see Nero smashing out of Saviours chest, Saviour stopping and when the screen pans out we see him frozen solid.
Rain was force, glass was alastor power and tbh Dante was not reacting to anything so its a useless feat tbh.
BT, you are clearly insane and have no idea what real physics is. I just thought I'd tell you that.
We can see their swords through most of the fight, if it was speed then the clash would not have created a dome of rain around them. It can only be force and it happens more than once.
The dome is there becuase they slashed all the rain inside their bubble. In fact, the bubble was there before they even clashed, as there is no evidence of an expanding shockwave. Ad if it was an shockwave, somehow keeping rain suspended in bidair in a middle-finger to physics and logic, then why was there no expansion after the last strike? What, did it just expand to a perfect bubble and stop? Bullshit.
Dante gets outclassed by slow jab to the chest with the hilt of Vergils weapon, and then a slow impalement. I just watched the full vid again, Dante was pushed back slightly by his sword being launched into the air but by the time of the impalement he is facing Vergil again, he is just leaving himself wide open and was too slow to react to the slow impale.Vergil even hesitated as well. Kains not giving him that chance lol. Kain will not be fighting face to face either, not even physically off the bat. Kain will appear out of think air, behind Dante and strike without mercy. unfortunaltey, the reaver will kill him, not just wound.
The entire scene is in bullet time. it takes bullet halves a full second to go 2 meters after Dante slices them. This is a common tactic where characters are slowed down for the viewers convienience. This is why Superman is never a mere blur in every panel. And he was only facing Vergil becuase the sword pushed his stomach backwards and his face forwards. Point is Dante has shown himself fighting a superspeed. In 0.003 seconds he runs up and punches Kains head off.
Also notice how the blades turn red with the force of their swordlock, and how long it takes to even become visible. As I said, bullet-time.
Originally posted by Nephthys
BT, you are clearly insane and have no idea what real physics is. I just thought I'd tell you that.The dome is there becuase they slashed all the rain inside their bubble. In fact, the bubble was there before they even clashed, as there is no evidence of an expanding shockwave. Ad if it was an shockwave, somehow keeping rain suspended in bidair in a middle-finger to physics and logic, then why was there no expansion after the last strike? What, did it just expand to a perfect bubble and stop? Bullshit.
The entire scene is in bullet time. it takes bullet halves a full second to go 2 meters after Dante slices them. This is a common tactic where characters are slowed down for the viewers convienience. This is why Superman is never a mere blur in every panel. And he was only facing Vergil becuase the sword pushed his stomach backwards and his face forwards. Point is Dante has shown himself fighting a superspeed. In 0.003 seconds he runs up and punches Kains head off.
Because I disagree with you? nah.
The whole thing is bullshit, but we see them do it. You cant argue with an actual feat 😬
Yes because vergil with his flick sent them bullets back at bullet speeds, and they still travel at bullet speed after being cut...oh wait, your the one who said I have no idea what physics is right? 😆 He cant move at 0.003 seconds and if he could, he still has normal reaction times below Kains. Oh and he couldnt punch Kains head off either, he will need the point of his sword to create PSI enough to damage Kain.
The whole thing is bullshit, but we see them do it. You cant argue with an actual feat
No, your opinion of the scene is bullshit. The scene itself makes sense.
Yes because vergil with his flick sent them bullets back at bullet speeds, and they still travel at bullet speed after being cut...oh wait, your the one who said I have no idea what physics is right? laughing He cant move at 0.003 seconds and if he could, he still has normal reaction times below Kains. Oh and he couldnt punch Kains head off either, he will need the point of his sword to create PSI enough to damage Kain.
Mocking your opponent is bad form. And evidence goes against everything you just said.
Originally posted by Nephthys
No, your opinion of the scene is bullshit. The scene itself makes sense.Mocking your opponent is bad form. And evidence goes against everything you just said.
my opinion is wrong but yours is right? lol.....and your the one who is ignoring the fact their clash made the same force wave, thats not speed.
gj proving yourself hypocrite a couple of posts after mocking me. And no, evidnece suggests Dante has poor reaction time, as he is outclassed twice by slower attacks.
my opinion is wrong but yours is right? lol.....and your the one who is ignoring the fact their clash made the same force wave, thats not speed.
My opinion is backed up by facts, logic and physics. Yours is backed by 'it looks like' and 'well the whole things is bullshit so I'm going to state my opinion again and ignore what you posted'.
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gh proving yourself hypocrite a couple of posts after mocking me. And no, evidnece suggests Dante has poor reaction time, as he is outclassed twice by slower attacks.
I did not mock you. I maintained that you suffered from a terrible illness and that you flunked school. I apologise if these observations distressed you.
No it doesn't. There were circumstances and PIS in that fight. Dante didn't even try to stop him.
attacks from Vergil of all people?Despite his showings off surfing on missiles casual bullet timing etc: how is that poor reaction time
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Originally posted by Son of Sparda
attacks from Vergil of all people?Despite his showings off surfing on missiles casual bullet timing etc: how is that poor reaction time
They used sheer speed to create the force by the way.
because its a slow attack compared to the rest of them. It proves that tiwice hes not quick enough when their fighting seriously.
Hes been shot many times before, and when hes dodged bullets he could have predicted where the shot was going to be fired from. Hes rarely reacted to a bullet as its in mid flight.