Originally posted by NephthysYou mean the flavour text for a priority move? We already know Machamp punches faster than bullets, you think bullet punch makes him punch more slowly?
You mean the punch that is specifically said to be 'as fast as a bullet'? Well obviously that means its faster than a bullet.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Cause you know, an attack specifically stated to be as fast as a bullet is faster than a bullet...some how. Ultimecia could freeze him in time before he could hit her, along with the other pokemon.
When did I say that? I simply said that a four armed death machine moving quickly is very different from a small piece of metal moving quickly. Machamp would be moving as fast as a bullet, and has much more mass and strength than a bullet. Just because Ultimecia can block a bullet wieghing a few grams at the most doesn't mean she can block a 280lb mountain buster moving at the same speed.
Magic Coat covers one pokemon, this case being Alakazam. All the other Pokemon would still be affected and Alakazam is not taking on 4 FF characters by himself. Actually, if Magic coat takes effect on Vincent or Cloud, it won't work as ribbons are awesome.
Embargo, and turns the status back at the caster.
Bullet Punch= Bullet Speed.
Bullet Punch = 280lb mountain buster moving at bullet speed.
Taunt works on one target and only Tyranitar could use it if you want Alakazam to use Magic Coat. Still leaves 3 people with control over time.
Safeguard and Torment, then.
Cure all> Sandstorm.
'k
Omnislash is an attack. Taunt says attack me. Easy enough, Alakazam would be injured.
But it doesn't prevent Taunt from being used, so it doesn't work as a counter.
Yes she can. She's a sorceress. Machamp is just a ball dwelling animal thing.
Doesn't mean she can block him.
Anime is canon. Anime = Games.
Incorrect.
That's if status moves are used but they can be cured by Esuna.
It's meant to counter Stop and Toad.
Gameplay mechanics.
Point?
Omnislash
No.
They succeed better since they never miss.
Prevented by No Guard or Safeguard.
Ultimecia and Vincent can.
They get destroyed by them.
They deal with Tornados that do more damage than a silly sandstorm.
Still doesn't mean they're immune to sandstorms.
Because they are resting
Still able to fight.
Omnislash kills any of the 5 Pokemon.
Don't actually think Machamp can (normally) punch faster then bullet speeds.
According to pokedex, he can.
So Machamp can punch this fast in 6:13-7:00?
Originally posted by The Scenario
When did I say that? I simply said that a four armed death machine moving quickly is very different from a small piece of metal moving quickly. Machamp would be moving as fast as a bullet, and has much more mass and strength than a bullet. Just because Ultimecia can block a bullet wieghing a few grams at the most doesn't mean she can block a 280lb mountain buster moving at the same speed.Embargo, and turns the status back at the caster.
Bullet Punch = 280lb mountain buster moving at bullet speed.
Safeguard and Torment, then.
'k
But it doesn't prevent Taunt from being used, so it doesn't work as a counter.
She doesn't have to block him. She can either phase through him or preferably, stop him. She probably couldn't block him in all fairness.
Embargo or Safeguard? Which is he using? Cause I wasn't aware Alakazam could do both at once. Safeguard is preferable for your side obviously. Torment won't work as esuna will heal them of that. Not that it affects Cloud or Vincent as again ribbons are awesome. They don't use them, they just wear them and it protects them.
This is all assuming they out run the stop spell, which is a bit of a stretch when Ultimecia is concerned. And if safeguard works, yeah that poses a problem.
Pokemon stands a chance. But not really as much as one.
FF 7/10
Pokemon 3/10.
/thread. ( For me.)
P.s Nice argument. 🙂
ultimecia wouldnt be using stop - that only works on a limited number of people...she simply stops time itself, freezing everything but herself, safeguard would not work on something like that..since she can react faster than a bullets, or squall, machamp really isnt much of a problem, especially if chaos vincent (fastest movement speed of ANYONE in this thread) is involved..he alone could delay team pokemon for the 1 second - or less - it would take ult to stop time...after that, ult BFR's her own team, pulls 3 stellar objects out of the sky and crashes them into the the pokemon..if any pokemon actually survive that (which i doubt, since whatever planet they're standing on would be destroyed), she absorbs them into time..
/thread..
I think we're all missing the point. Ultimecia was punched in the face by Machamp, who then beat the snot out of her in two seconds.
That left Alakazam to TK Vincent, who Machamp then did the same thing to.
Then we only had Squall, Cloud, and some other person who also had the snot beat out of them by the various other Pokemon.
how was ult punched in the face by machamp, if vincent, who as ive said can move faster, blocks him?
alakazm would not react in time to TK vincent
and time compression ult or not, she can still stop time, absorb ppl into time, and use great attractor and shockwave pulsar..hell, she can just create an insanely powerful GF out of nothing to battle team pokemon..
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I think we're all missing the point. Ultimecia was punched in the face by Machamp, who then beat the snot out of her in two seconds.That left Alakazam to TK Vincent, who Machamp then did the same thing to.
Then we only had Squall, Cloud, and some other person who also had the snot beat out of them by the various other Pokemon.
Um...I said I was done with the thread. And I am for the most part. But Alakazam is the only thing the Pokemon side has the gives them an edge. The safeguard method is a lot more effective then him wasting his time trying to TK someone.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Lol. No Guard simply means that Machamp battles without regard for its own protection. There's also a move with that same idea, they call it Close Combat. When it isn't preoccupied with defending itself, it can focus on offense and do much more damage and make sure its moves hit. Essentially collateral damage that they don't call "recoil."
He still loses to Ultimecia.
And no. Ganondorf was not beaten at all. He was sealed away by a group of Knights who wielded the Master Sword and the old Sages who are in many cases responsible for forging the Master Sword and keeping it endowed with the power of the Goddesses.
Master Sword was never mentioned in the Imprisoning War. Otherwise, toonforce.
Even saying Ultimecia blocked Bullet Punch, Machamp is now close enough to unleash hell. A hell that she will never block.
Ultimecia can teleport and then kill him with an icicle.