You know, this is what frustrates the ever living hell out of me about certain debates... Lack of balance.
5Link here takes the single worst showing and proceeds to run with it as far as he can, and decides we don't need to hear about any of Ty's other feats.
"Oh, he got beat by a togepi? Thats it, I need to hear no more to know my guy wins...!" Thats stupid, your using a single instance to throw away an entire species capabilities, and that is one of the more foolish things you can do in a debate.