Bayonetta, Kratos, and Sephiroth vs. Link and Sheik (SSBB)

Started by BloodRain44 pages

Punching a hole through the cockpit glass does not put her above Bay. How did the bullet time feats not become feats? Seph fights bullet timers, Bay is one and so is Link now. The can all keep up with them.

Link will never keep up with bay nor could he react to bay, she is too fast and can stop time, she would then take their heads off with a punch.

Oh right, witch time. Ahh people with time powers... such buggers.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Punching a hole through the cockpit glass does not put her above Bay. How did the bullet time feats not become feats? Seph fights bullet timers, Bay is one and so is Link now. The can all keep up with them.
Using the exact logic that everyone seems ot think is okay around here to use against me:
-Bullets in fiction do not behave like IRL bullets, especially seeign as they can home in, in Bayonetta's case, and therefore are not as fast, and she is not a bullet timer. 😐 I can downplay feats too, and all I have to do is copy Sin's argument ,change a few words, and make it less nonsensical. (IE, actually bring up valid points like the homing thing.)
Originally posted by Burning thought
Link will never keep up with bay nor could he react to bay, she is too fast and can stop time, she would then take their heads off with a punch.
Thank you sir, for strengthening my argument. Seeing you and Sin Volvagia working together more and more is certainly a good sign.
And Witch Time isn't a time stop, either. It's a slow, a good one, but a slow.

Thats nobodies argument, you just dont like the fact that the lasers as portrayed in SSB are slower and with less accuracy than lasers in real life and indeed in other fictions. The scene is nowhere near the same even if it was assumed the beams fired were as quick as bullets, that does not make link and mario bullet timers, it would make them a couple of guys fleeing from an innacurate weapon. humans without powers in fiction can do that, arguably even real people as its not propper dodging.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Thats nobodies argument, you just dont like the fact that the lasers as portrayed in SSB are slower and with less accuracy than lasers in real life and indeed in other fictions. The scene is nowhere near the same even if it was assumed the beams fired were as quick as bullets, that does not make link and mario bullet timers, it would make them a couple of guys fleeing from an innacurate weapon. humans without powers in fiction can do that, arguably even real people as its not propper dodging.
Go watch the scene again, also thank you once again for dragging Sin down into your hole.

Mario and Link are running to the source, not away from it, whiel casually dodging. The lasers miss because Link and Mario move. what it makes them, is ****ing incredible.

Your ignorant comments on the content of the scene proves you barely even looked at it. Anyway, get back to work.

Seen it couple times, your completly ignoring the fact their erratic, innacurate shots and at an angle, their not right in front of Mario/link, their in the air as they run. Which is no wonder with what a poor marksman that the shots are going wide and hitting behind them as their running towards him.

its not a good feat, even if the lasers were fast and not so predictable.

Whos logic said that fictional bullets arnt at real bullets speed? :/

Time slow is still more then enough.

time slow/freeze among Bayonettas large list of powers, both witch weaved or otherwise is more than enough.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Whos logic said that fictional bullets arnt at real bullets speed? :/

Time slow is still more then enough.

Sin Volvagia's.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Seen it couple times, your completly ignoring the fact their erratic, innacurate shots and at an angle, their not right in front of Mario/link, their in the air as they run. Which is no wonder with what a poor marksman that the shots are going wide and hitting behind them as their running towards him.

its not a good feat, even if the lasers were fast and not so predictable.

The lasers only miss because Link and Mario dodge. There's a lot of them, and they're coming in very tight, very fast, and very accurately. Link and Mario casually and confidently skate past them whiel they persue the Ancient Minister.

Time Slow only works for Bayonetta, who's not as physicly strong as she'd need to be, and there's still debate whether she'd land an attack at all before she lost her head. Especially if Sheik just kills her before she can.

Thats a lie, many of the lasers would never have even hit their targets and the pair of constantly running forwards, they jump a few times. No accuracy, moderate speed and many shots going wide, pretty useless marksman.

Shes kicked skyscrapers and shes not strong enough? I lold, go get some shiek durability feats to prove this as it sounds as far fetched as your other arguments. Theres no debate, just your denile.

He got it from;

Originally posted by General Kaliero
If bullet-dodging is counted as a feat, laser-dodging is by definition an equal feat, unless specific fiction has shown lasers to travel faster or slower.

Originally posted by BloodRain
He got it from;
No, before that.

Sin, and you, were both arguing lasers in fiction =/= lasers in real life.
THEREFORE: Bullets in fiction =/= bullets in real life. Same argument, changed one word.

Lasers like that dont exist in real life 😐 As said they work in the same way as Star-wars laser blasters that are at bullet speed.

Lasers in fiction, are only in fiction because we dont have laser cannons irl, we do have ballistic guns however.

Which is besides the point, we can see in various fictions, this one included that the lasers not simply beams of light speed energy.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Lasers like that dont exist in real life 😐 As said they work in the same way as Star-wars laser blasters that are at bullet speed.
Blasters =/= lasers. You're also missing the point. How a laser would behave in real life. It would be impossible to slow a pulse of light to that extent. Lasers, while not light speed are always going to be extremely fast.

Sin and BT like to claim lasers are slower than bullets as long as it's Link dodging them, but when Bayonetta dodges a bullet, that bullet has to be fast. HM! Inconsistent.

Blasters are similiar to lasers.

Edit: their an upgrade to normal laser weapons according to wookie:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Blaster

Bullets are fast and theres no reason to belive Jeannes bullets are slower than a normal bullet as nothing shows it (infact their more likely quicker, her guns are huge as are the bullets meaning a strong mechanism and enhanced with witch magic).

The more compact the laser the slower it goes. Like SSBB, Star Wars and anywhere where they've used lasers as guns.

Edit: Kinda like how highly compressed light atoms at the right conditions can be made to move as slow as 17m/s >.>

A lot of games have lasers and their certainly far slower than light, like in SSB, and in some cases slower than ballistic weapons such as bullets/rfiles etc

Originally posted by Burning thought
Blasters are similiar to lasers.

Edit: their an upgrade to normal laser weapons according to wookie:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Blaster

Bullets are fast and theres no reason to belive Jeannes bullets are slower than a normal bullet as nothing shows it (infact their more likely quicker, her guns are huge as are the bullets meaning a strong mechanism and enhanced with witch magic).

Oh, great a science fiction wiki on a seperate universe. How delihgtfully relevant. Wait..
Originally posted by BloodRain
The more compact the laser the slower it goes. Like SSBB, Star Wars and anywhere where they've used lasers as guns.

Edit: Kinda like how highly compressed light atoms at the right conditions can be made to move as slow as 17m/s >.>

Massive generalisation and assumption. 😐 If anything were relative to size it'd be the amount of energy than can confer into a pulse, which would still have little to do with speed.
Originally posted by Burning thought
A lot of games have lasers and their certainly far slower than light, like in SSB, and in some cases slower than ballistic weapons such as bullets/rfiles etc
I've not once claimed lasers move light speed. This isn't relevant.

The argument that lasers are slow in fiction because fiction doesn't need to behave like real life is just as applicable to bullets. Real life physics would not allow for the existance of a laser as slow as you're suggesting.