Bayonetta, Kratos, and Sephiroth vs. Link and Sheik (SSBB)

Started by Burning thought44 pages

Great example of how fictional lasers can be slower than the theoretical use of real laser weapons irl. These are pointless arguments, we actually see the lasers as inaccurate, at an odd angle and fired at moderate speed.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Great example of how fictional lasers can be slower than the theoretical use of real laser weapons irl. These are pointless arguments, we actually [b]see the lasers as inaccurate, at an odd angle and fired at moderate speed. [/B]
What we see, are lasers, fired accurately, and dodged. Everything else you have is an assumption.

Cant we just leave the lasers at bullet speed and be done with this?

Does a shit bear in the woods?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Cant we just leave the lasers at bullet speed and be done with this?
That's only one point of the argument, but nah. for several reasons.
-It's as easy to downplay a bullet as a laser, if not easier, and I can play that game too.
-It's impossible.
-To call something slow based solely on the fact that it's visible is ridiculous. You can see nearly everything that happens in every cutscene ever. It takes a bullet nearly two seconds to reach Ultimecia, and she's hailed as a bullet timer.
-I'm getting fed up with double standards.
-We clearly have a cutscene whereign Link dodges lasers.

Originally posted by iChaos
Does a shit bear in the woods?

Polar bears live above the tree line, so not always.

Blaster with laser sighting. Anyone else smile at that?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Polar bears live above the tree line, so not always.

You do realise that I was joking, right? In other words, I meant "no".

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
That's only one point of the argument, but nah. for several reasons.
-It's as easy to downplay a bullet as a laser, if not easier, and I can play that game too.
-It's impossible.
-To call something slow based solely on the fact that it's visible is ridiculous. You can see nearly everything that happens in every cutscene ever. It takes a bullet nearly two seconds to reach Ultimecia, and she's hailed as a bullet timer.
-I'm getting fed up with double standards.
-We clearly have a cutscene whereign Link dodges lasers.

-Not if its based on a gun/bullet irl.
-Lasers can move at varied speeds. Why cant a compressed laser blast be at bullet speed if we know that compressed light is slower and that the more plasma/energy slows it further.
-That Ultimecia scene was for dramatic effects. Reason why the slowness has been called out is that real life laser speeds would not be visible or just be a instant flash (especially as lasers are invisible when not looked at head on) There are several reasons to why fictional ray guns are not the same as real life lasers.
-What double standards?

The bullet taking two seconds to reach Ultimecia is supposedly something cool to look at. A faster projectile which we even see for less time is supposed to be slower.

Bayonetta punches that thing at "Light Speed" across the solar system, yet we see it all. Sight is being used as the basis against these lasers being faster than bullets.

^ double standards. Just some examples.

The bullet taking two seconds to reach Ultimecia is supposedly something cool to look at. A faster projectile which we even see for less time is supposed to be slower.

Bayonetta punches that thing at "Light Speed" across the solar system, yet we see it all. Sight is being used as the basis against these lasers being faster than bullets.

^ double standards. Just some examples.


Well, it was for dramatic effects. The shockwave/heat around the bullet wont come from a 30m/s projectile. (if it was 2 seconds) A real laser would not be seen unless it is the the well known fiction laser that includes phasers, blasters and ray guns that act and move like a gunshot.

Lightspeed? That scene made her move 1000xspeed of light on the target who went from 100m tall compared to Bay and be about 40,000x taller, near same size as the US, and then 5x that when scaled to the Sun. 😐 Things are messed up. All that scene shows is a very powerful punch but the exact details are not 100%

...yar

A real laser would not be seen
A scene where Link and Mario randomly dodge nothing would look retarded and make the player scratch his head. 😐

If that was the case then they could of made them at real laser speed. Anyway, Links been put at bullet speed. Big step up from what he was outside Brawl.

Originally posted by BloodRain
If that was the case then they could of made them at real laser speed. Anyway, Links been put at bullet speed. Big step up from what he was outside Brawl.
Actually, not really. 😐

They wouldnt have to dodge nothing, complaining about that is pointless considering machineguns in games, you cant see every bullet but that does not mean you cannot dodge them, characters do. Such as bayonetta, fortunaltey in her case the game slows down time for us to see it.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Actually, not really. 😐

What that they couldn't of made them real speed or that Link was always a bullet timer?

They are just as all fiction laser shots are. Bullet speed.

Link's reaction time is pretty impressive, but dodging lasers is a whooole new level.

Also: another massive generalisation and impossibility >_>

A whole new level of fanon perhaps, Link dodges nothing. Innacurate, erratic nonsense, you cant ignore this. Shots go all over the place and a lot of them miss anyway, their also at an angle which makes it high probability the lasers would never hit anyway considering the pair were running towards the source.

its not the same as dodging something thats fired in a straight line at your level.

Oh look, BT's providing me with comforting reassurance, and blathering out his arse about something he imagined in a scene he barely glanced at. 😐 At the same time.

Laser guns, phasers, ray guns, blasters. All shown at bullet speed/not at real laser speeds. An impossibility is a real laser moving the those speeds unless its fiction based like mentioned.

As Kaliero said, need to prove that those lasers are faster then bullets or simply keep them at bullet speed.

Originally posted by Burning thought

its not the same as dodging something thats fired in a straight line at your level.

That's merely a concept of perception. The argument is invalid.

And I could counter this by saying your fictional bullets are at arrow speed until you prove otherwise, just because. 😐