A laser beam is. Laser shots from guns in fiction are as fast as the place they come from make them. And Brawls beams dont appear to be faster then bullets.
Not talking just reactions, speed too. Links speed isnt enough to evade Kratos's attacks for long as beating Hermes demonstrated. Now that Sheiks gone, Link can't beat all three..
And the blasters are lasers, more so work in the same way as the ones in that scene do.
It would be impossible, and require intent, to create a laser so slow.
There's simply no logical reason someone would do that, y'know?
Sheik is beyond being caught, allowed SSBB feats,
and Link can dodge all their attacks while eating treats.
Hermes if featless, your point is moot.
Link fights them off, and receives phat l00t.
Tell that to the people who made that scene, Mr. Lucas or anyone in the future that creates laser beams shot from guns.
Oh I was talking about Brawl and like I said the only feat she shows is punching the cockpit which no one has said to as how strong that is.
Proof that he can?
Hermes is fast, speed to reactions say that he's close to bullet time at the very least. And a bonus he's much faster then Link. And Kratos still beat him.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
2. It's not even a physical attack. There's no physical force and the body of the one being punched doesn't move /at all/.
Yet when Jubileus lands on a planet, it explodes. Explain that.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Which is less Strength than Link himself, and probably Sheik as well depending how you interpret her Arwing smashing feat.
Ignorance + Nintendo Wank = Failure
Bayonetta has greater strength feats than lifting a huge pillar like throwing a huge dragon, playing a catch with satellite, and kicking away a building that was thrown with telekinesis. Sheik's only strength feat was cracking a cockpit from an Arwing that only has slight durability above a fighter jet.
She also can't hope to lay a finger on either one with their SSBB feats, they casually dodge lasers, and Sheik can teleport onto an Arwing dodging even moar lasers at ridiculous speed, maintain balance on said arwing while it moves, and smash it's windshield with her fingers.
1. Every SSBB character (except Sonic) is slower than her. She dodges bullets at point-blank range (even if they're homing) and can even stop time (with a maximum of 5 minutes).
2. The lasers that were dodged by Mario and Link are slower than bullets.
3. Bayonetta can teleport too.
4. Sheik staying on the Arwing is PIS. Fox could've made it barrel-roll.
5. Bayonetta can crack a weaker Arwing's cockpit with her fingers? Cute, Bayonetta can slice through Iustitia's tentacles with her finger nails.
Sephiroth and Bayonetta get wrecked, tbh.
Let's see:
YouTube video
8:44-9:00
I've seen more impressive stuff in the DS FF3 intro
YouTube video
This is Sephiroth pre-FF7
YouTube video
6:20
Sheik is getting wrecked
Kratos is the most powerful member of his team, and he's gonna need a lot of luck to land a hit against the kind of reaction time these two have.
A lot of luck? 😆 With superhuman durability, strength above Bayonetta's, the Golden Fleece, a blinding attack that even affects beings as large as Cronos, plot device powers, Hermes' boots, and all the weapons Kratos has, the Zelda characters are gonna need all the luck they can get an a couple of prayers to even cause damage.
Originally posted by No End N Site
3. It can't be summoned outside of Purgitorio.
Wicked Weave can be used outside of Purgatorio. Just look at the fight with Balder. Besides, she wasn't even in Purgatorio when she fought Jubileus.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Hermes if featless, your point is moot.
😆 😆
Originally posted by Burning thought
Neither of the nuclear bombs were necessery and they were a very poor choice of weapon. No bombs should have been used but Dumberica had to do it.
The civilian killings were unnecessary but that doesn't mean Japan is innocent. Go look up Unit 731. I wonder why I haven't read that in any of the history books at school.
Ignorance + Nintendo Wank = Failure
You use battle animations, and non-canon lulz.
You downplay or ignore feats with BT like skillz.
I suggest you reconsider your accusation of wank,
because I smell bullshit, and sir, it's rank.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
For now, I'm going to focus on this.
I really hope you're taking the piss.
It's so incredibly ironic, you see,
for you, to accuse me,
of fan wank, when you wank EffEff.
You wank it hard. You wank it your best.
You wank EffEff with both of your hands.
You wank EffEff in internet land.You use battle animations, and non-canon lulz.
You downplay or ignore feats with BT like skillz.
I suggest you reconsider your accusation of wank,
because I smell bullshit, and sir, it's rank.
It's not my fault you see no truth
but I have shown you all of the proof.
FF is superior
Pokemon's inferior.
Bayonetta beats Sheik
with her booty cheek.
Kratos breaks Link
no matter what you think.
For what it's worth, claiming visibility equals slower than bullets is entirely wrong. Regular bullets are hard to see merely because of their small size, and traveling lasers in visual media have always specifically evoked the look of tracer bullets at night, which while travelling the same speed as typical bullets, are entirely visible as a streak through the air.
If bullet-dodging is counted as a feat, laser-dodging is by definition an equal feat, unless specific fiction has shown lasers to travel faster or slower.
And don't bother claiming real-world science here. Actual lasers are near-instantaneous continuous beams, and future laser-based weaponry will be laser-guided ionized plasma streams that also move near-instantaneously.
In short:
Lasers are not all inherently slow
They're just long enough to see where they go
Bullet-time is the same
As dodging laser rain
So give up the argument now, yo.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
It's not my fault you see no truth
but I have shown you all of the proof.
FF is superior
Pokemon's inferior.
Bayonetta beats Sheik
with her booty cheek.
Kratos breaks Link
no matter what you think.
Those lasers take far less time than that,
and you assume a bullet is faster?
Sir, go shit in your hat.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Allow me to sight you the truth you seem to forget.
It takes a bullet seconds to reach it's target,
in EffEff, anyway.
Watch it today.Those lasers take far less time than that,
and you assume a bullet is faster?
Sir, go shit in your hat.
Bayonetta dodges homing bullets and I cannot lie
only Nintendo wankers like you will deny
even if she pounds angels into paste
and throws them out the place
I'm still wrong
But I had enough
you can just believe all your stuff
your posts are not worth caring
I'm ready to start swearing
That's all, I wasted too much too much time.
In all seriousness, anyone in Team 1 solo even with if Link and Sheik are bullet-timers.
They also all have greater feats.
Bayonetta held a bus with one hand, dodged homing bullets, sliced a thick tentacle with her fingernails, made an ice spear out of the air, kicked away a thrown skyscraper, outruns cars (and is even faster in her panther form), and freezes time.
Sephiroth handles two bullet-timing superhumans without getting hurt. He was unaffected Genesis's fire magic and his sword easily cuts through steel even at long range.
Kratos caught a giant crab leg, resisted a soul rip, takes physical blows and long falls without getting hurt, prevented from being crushed by the hands of one of the largest videogame characters ever, and reacted to lightning (because according to Kaliero's logic all lasers move the same and that must be the same with lightning).
All three have more feats than both Zelda characters do in Brawl.
Originally posted by Sin_VolvagiaIt's actually borderline sad how badly you underrate Zelda characters. 😐
In all seriousness, anyone in Team 1 solo even with if Link and Sheik are bullet-timers.They also all have greater feats.
Bayonetta held a bus with one hand, dodged homing bullets, sliced a thick tentacle with her fingernails, made an ice spear out of the air, kicked away a thrown skyscraper, outruns cars (and is even faster in her panther form), and freezes time.
Sephiroth handles two bullet-timing superhumans without getting hurt. He was unaffected Genesis's fire magic and his sword easily cuts through steel even at long range.
Kratos caught a giant crab leg, resisted a soul rip, takes physical blows and long falls without getting hurt, prevented from being crushed by the hands of one of the largest videogame characters ever, and reacted to lightning (because according to Kaliero's logic all lasers move the same and that must be the same with lightning).
All three have more feats than both Zelda characters do in Brawl.
Holding up a bus and cutting through steel are small tiem strnegth feats next tosmashing Arwings and Link's long list of strength feats.
Sephiroth tanking Firaga is barely a feat, since Firaga has no feats of it's own, it's basicly just fire. Whoo, Sephiroth can take normal fire.
Kratos is easily the most powerful person on his team, but nice try using the incredibly well telegraphed lightning from Zeus. (We see him take all the time in the world to use it in a cutscene. 😄)Anyway, Seeing as fictional bullets aren't real bullets, they're slow, and Bayo/Seph have no reaction feats. See how easy a claim that is to make? If I were to stoop to your level of deconstruction I'd just sit here all day claiming in the face of fact that Bayo/Seph have no feats. Yes, both are quick, but not quick enough to tag Link or Sheik with their SSBB feats.
Also, both get their non SSBB feats as well, and as soon as I'm told which Link we're using I'll have a lot more to say. :]