Kratos vs. Machamp

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Well... Not really, but if there are Pokemons who aren't 'supposedly' to be strong or fast as you claim Machamp is, and still can be defeat him, what is preventing Kratos for defeating a Machamp as well? Because... You mentioned his strength and speed, right? No, I'm not using anything.

I'm really not sure what your argument is. By that token, if Machamp were inferior to Kratos, what would stop Kratos from losing? 😐 I just don't understand what you're getting at.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Master of every style of Martial Arts is pretty win.

Yet this Pokemon would get its ass handed by Fearow and Dodrio if it doesn't have the TM, Rock Slide. He's not much of a martial art master if he can't beat oversized birds that look like Skittles when compared to the giant-sized foes that Kratos fights.

Kratos makes a shockwave and heads over to the fallen Machamp and takes it out with one blow.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Yet this Pokemon would get its ass handed by Fearow and Dodrio if it doesn't have the TM, Rock Slide. He's not much of a martial art master if he can't beat oversized birds that look like Skittles when compared to the giant-sized foes that Kratos fights.

Kratos makes a shockwave and heads over to the fallen Machamp and takes it out with one blow.

Wait.. Kratos beats large opponents but suddenly size matters for Kratos over Machamp.. :/

How come the strike speed of the punches have been dropped?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Can you cite a canon instance of Machamp getting it's ass kicked by an apparently inferior opponent?

I'm really not sure what your argument is. By that token, if Machamp were inferior to Kratos, what would stop Kratos from losing? 😐 I just don't understand what you're getting at.

In the games? No, I can't. I didn't said inferior, but I suppose Machamp isn't invincible, he can be defeated in the games. By the Pokedex description 'supposedly' Machamp is the physically strongest Pokemon, right? Who else can move a mountain with one arm? Who else can deal 500 punches in 2 seconds? There is no mention of its durability nor his velocity though, maybe with one blow from Kratos and his Chaos Blades he takes him down, I don't know.

Kratos is very well known as undefeated, a powerful warrior who has defeated hundred of soldiers and creatures by himself, even a God (with Pandora's Box, but still) and has not shown signs of fatigue whatsoever, at least that is what I can drawn from the game... So, if Machamp can lose against... Let's say, Hitmonlee, Kratos would have a good chance of winning. Well, just my opinion...

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
1. Proof Machamp would lose?

Machamp wouldn't survive in a fight with Dodrio or Fearow.

Kratos regularly deals with flying enemies. In God of War 2, he rips the wings off of Griffons and breaks the Dark Griffin's neck. Lahkesis also flies and Kratos beat her and Atropos at the same time.

Size =/= important

Maybe but the fact that Machamp can't deal with flying foes puts him at disadvantage.

3. Your argument sucks.

How does it suck?

4. Stop underrating pokemon so badly.

I'm not; you're just overrating them like every Nintendo character. If Machamp really is a martial arts master, it would have every fighting move in the game. That includes Jump Kick, Triple Kick, and Arm Thrust which he never learns.

By the Pokedex description 'supposedly' Machamp is the physically strongest Pokemon, right?

Kratos is very well known as undefeated

I'm not saying Kratos has no chance, but a fight with Machamp doesn't look good for his chances.

Machamp wouldn't survive in a fight with Dodrio or Fearow.

Kratos regularly deals with flying enemies. In God of War 2, he rips the wings off of Griffons and breaks the Dark Griffin's neck. Lahkesis also flies and Kratos beat her and Atropos at the same time.

Also, lol@me overrating pokemon. I'm reading you the freakin' pokedex.

Lol, Dodrio can run at I believe 100mph. And Fearow is an excellent flier. I forget what was special about him though.

Both of those don't resist fighting attacks anyway, the half normal type cancels that out.

Simply getting too close to Machamp would do them in. So yeah, Machamp could survive a fight with those two.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Lol, Dodrio can run at I believe 100mph. And Fearow is an excellent flier. I forget what was special about him though.

Both of those don't resist fighting attacks anyway, the half normal type cancels that out.

Simply getting too close to Machamp would do them in. So yeah, Machamp could survive a fight with those two.

Dodrio runs at 40 mph. Machamp gets killed by Drill Pecks and the Nemean Cestus.

Assuming he gets hit with a Drill Peck.

Was pretty sure it was understood Machamp is a better fighter than Kratos.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Assuming he gets hit with a Drill Peck.

Was pretty sure it was understood Machamp is a better fighter than Kratos.

Machamp is not agile. He has bad dexterity and can't beat bird Pokemon.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Machamp is not agile. He has bad dexterity and can't beat bird Pokemon.

Flying pokemon.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
K, what are you basing this "can't beat bird pokemon" bullshit on?

Flying type weakness and putting Machamp against bird Pokemon.

Type advantage never ensures a win, ever. It's just helpful. Given said birds are featless, no.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Type advantage never ensures a win, ever. It's just helpful. Given said birds are featless, no.

Dodrio pecks Machamp violently and wins. Dodrio tries the same to Kratos and gets his necks ripped open.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Dodrio pecks Machamp violently and wins. Dodrio tries the same to Kratos and gets his necks ripped open.

If Dodrio's at a speed where Kratos can grab its neck, Machamp having faster moves would do the same, no?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
1. Dodrio is featless, so no.
2. A>B>C> Logic doesn't work. Otherwise Venusaur is > Charizard who has 4x resistance to grass attacks. 😐
3. Are you just trolling now? Your arguments are getting worse.

1. Pokemon have weaknesses.
2. Venusaur can't beat Charizard
3. I'm not trolling

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
1. Pokemon have weaknesses.
2. Venusaur can't beat Charizard
3. I'm not trolling