Harry Potter vs Darth Vader

Started by Nephthys45 pages

It permeates all things within the SW galaxy, a Protego shield is NOT in the SW galaxy. wink Also, it permeates "all living things."

Clearly false given that the Force has been used on non-living things such as metal and air.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Clearly false given that the Force has been used on non-living things such as metal and air.

I think Yoda was talking about where the source of the Force comes from, living things. Not what it can affect.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Which has been proven to be imperfect at best.

You keep saying that.... yet its highly silly.

Guns're imperfect. They are mechanical and jam.

Yet, would you feel so strong in its failiability to aim it loaded to your nutsack, and pull the trigger...? No. Of course you wouldnt.
Precog worked MOST of the time, which should be enough for this debate.

Besides. Nearly every bit of force blindness can be attributed to the way the galaxy is at that time.

TPM, ANH, ESB and ROTJ, the advantage was with lightsiders.
On AOTC, ROTS, and Half of ESB it seemed to be the Sith's turn.
Balanced was restored at the end of ROTJ.

So, in an Balanced forcey time, your boy-wizard quarterback will be toast.

Originally posted by Robtard
I think Yoda was talking about where the source of the Force comes from, living things. Not what it can affect.

Agreed.

All matter/energy/tree ground/space/air/rock.

Means shit street for Potter and chums, that does..

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Can travel anywhere, yes. Is everywhere? Depends on your point of view. Magic is a way of harnessing and focusing natural energy.

You mean "magic energy" not "natural", dude. Dumbldore explained that a bit in Book 7. Magic is magic and the force is the force.

Like I said, the force is not magic and magic is not the force.

The burden of proof is on you to prove that, in movies 2-6, the force is called magic by someone knowledgeable of the force OR, someone in Harry Potter calls "the force" magic.

No matter what, RJ, you cannot prove that they are both magic, as it pertains to Harry's universe....ever ever ever ever. 🙂

You have to keep in mind that if you are going to claim that, say, a protego charm will defend against the force, you must prove, first, that the force is magic. Since it's not and you would offend a force user if you called it magic, you will never ever be able to use that line of reasoning in any thread. In fact, in the EU, people that were dumb/ignorant mistakenly called the force, magic.

Its RJnian energy.

Its produced directly from his bottom and trumps everything in the universe at its merest release.

So, protego is being touted as an energy barrier, not a magical barrier, and it blocks energy, not magic.

That's not true, at all.

"Protego (pro-TAY-go)
"Shield Charm"

"protego" L. to defend

This spell creates a magical barrier that will deflect hexes thrown at the caster."

Not an energy barrier, a magical barrier.

How do we know this for a fact, though?

More on that later.

So, this magical shield charm which protects from MAGICAL attacks is not going to protect against physical attacks. 😐

Also, the time it takes Harry to cast the spell, Harry is already chopped up, choking, crushed, or force pushed so hard he's knocked out.

Harry Potter will definitely try that as he tried it against Voldy at the beginning of their duel.

😐

Killing curse is won't do jack. Vader's first reaction will be to block it with his armored glove. If not that, then his sword, which is not him.

This assumes, of course, that Harry even has a chance to get off a spell, which he doesn't. So the killing curse is out and not even usable.

😐

RJ, do you want to tackle the barrier argument? I have more on that, if you want to argue that. I know others in here (not all of them) are not very knowledgable about Harry Potter, so you could at least debate these with me and ignore the others.

I hate all of you.

Also, I'm going to bed. Lotsa beer to roll tomorrow.

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Originally posted by Impediment
I hate all of you.

Also, I'm going to bed. Lotsa beer to roll tomorrow.

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You love us, *****.

Originally posted by Robtard
I think Yoda was talking about where the source of the Force comes from, living things. Not what it can affect.

this.

I blame RJ for infecting me with thick. I knew that. *slaps own forehead*

At least it stops where he was trying to go with it, which is that the Force somehow wouldn't do shit to Protego, which is not only wrong but would mean that Protego wouldn't do shit to it.

*Plays imperial victory march*

Pretty decisive then.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

The energy that is the force cannot get past the stronger energy barrier. It's quite simple.

What was this energy barrier...?

Seems that what ever you refer to will be usurped at a sub atomic level by the force, upon command from its user.

Ahhhh yes touching pic of Vader reading the eulogy for his fallen enemy at the service.

Wow they sure did put a lot of bits of Harry back together for the casket.
He still looked very burned/crushed. (They never did find his head)

Peaceful..... But burned.(and stapled back together).

Nah, he just got his ass beat and he's trying to learn wizardry.

He clearly had all the wizardry he needed to kill Harry. 🙂

Hence him being dead and all.

Nah, Harry Reducto's his breathing device, and: