Harry Potter vs Darth Vader

Yeah.

Cause the force is what makes the universe up and all the things in it.

EX: The Wizard aparates into smoke to escape the force user:
The force user force push/pulls/electrocutes the smoke, as the smoke is still a part of the universe.

Logic.

EX2: The wizard initiates Fiendfyre.
The force user grabs and redirects the fiendfyre onto the user, by taking control of it via the force at a subatomic level.

Logical.

etc etc etc

Loling at your ignorance, sir. > 😂

No, the Force is not magic and magic is not the force.

You make it sound like spells will bounce right off the Jedi.

If what you say is true, then why did Ki Adi Mundi get shot? Hmm? Why didn't the Force seize control of the blaster bolt? Why were Anakin and Obi Wan ducking lava as it was coming down on them?

The force is a part of everything in the universe.

Nah The force had decided that the Lightsiders had to go, as it was swinging to the darkside.. They didnt duck all of it. Look at Obiwan's tunic and shit afterwards...Its still melted/burned 18 years later in ANH!

Simples.

Yeah, so....... Avada Kedavra works just fine on Jedi.

Not when you cant say it, you cant.

Remember also that the wand was forcegrabbed and crushed in the 1st few milliseconds of the confrontation, by a Vader who saw Harry's opening move coming via precog..

So tell me, genius, how does battle precog work?

This should be AWESOME.

You see shit coming then counter it before or as it happens.

See? You were right. It WAS Awesome.

Now explain the science of HP magic, and why it should beat the force..

*Straps himself into a comfy chair, lights cigarette and awaits answer to the question that RJ has dodged since day 1.*

Now THIS should be awesome. 🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You see shit coming then counter it before or as it happens.

See? You were right. It WAS Awesome.

[B]Now explain the science of HP magic, and why it should beat the force..

*Straps himself into a comfy chair, lights cigarette and awaits answer to the question that RJ has dodged since day 1.*

Now THIS should be awesome. 🙂 [/B]

😄

Next?

*CoughdodgeCough*

Ohhhkayyyyyyyyy.

So you admit that you have no logical reason to believe that the Force (WHICH MAKES UP EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THE WIZARDS, THE WANDS, THE SPELLBOOKS, THE MAGIC, THE AIR, THE GROUND...EVERYTHING)
can't interfere with HP magic.

🙂

Not picking a side of the fervent RJ vs Sadako war, but IMO, I think that the Harry Potter magic would take this, as it has shown to be versatile to produce an incalculably amount of extraordinary effects, whereas The Force manifested as telekinesis, electrokinesis, enhanced physical abilities and intelligence, and "luck". Once again, I may be wrong, so please Sadako or anyone else, don't bash me. This is just my personal opinion based on what I've seen

I'm not gonna bash you, man. RJ has earned his bashings with many of his own attacks on me. And its not a war. RJ just refuses to admit when hes lost an argument..hence this dragging out, cause its sooooooo vital to him to believe that HP has any chance against an all powerful, omni-present force.

I would say that the HP can be as versatile as it likes, like a 1000-in-1 kitchen utility.

But take away that Utility device's power and its just a potentially versatile ornament.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I'm not gonna bash you, man. RJ has earned his bashings with many of his own attacks on me. And its not a war. RJ just refuses to admit when hes lost an argument..hence this dragging out, cause its sooooooo vital to him to believe that HP has any chance against an all powerful, omni-present force.

I would say that the HP can be as versatile as it likes, like a 1000-in-1 kitchen utility.

But take away that Utility device's power and its just a potentially versatile ornament.

And you believe the Force can negate the energy source of HP Magic? How so?

Subatomically through the unified field that Yoda described the force as being in ESB.

The force is present in all matter/energy including wizards and anything else.

Also precog keeps fubaring the wizards.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Subatomically through the unified field that Yoda described the force as being in ESB.

The force is present in all matter/energy including wizards and anything else.

Also precog keeps fubaring the wizards.

Alright. I understand your arguement 🙂

However, sadly, I am a man of extreme lethargy, so I don't feel like re-reading the whole thread, so just tell me, exactly what is RJ's counter-argument?

Thank you.

read the edit to the post I just made please and thank you

Originally posted by Lestov16
Not picking a side of the fervent RJ vs Sadako war, but IMO, I think that the Harry Potter magic would take this, as it has shown to be versatile to produce an incalculably amount of extraordinary effects, whereas The Force manifested as telekinesis, electrokinesis, enhanced physical abilities and intelligence, and "luck". Once again, I may be wrong, so please Sadako or anyone else, don't bash me. This is just my personal opinion based on what I've seen

Exactly. The ability for a wizard to teleport at will. To vanish objects. To fly. To one hit kill from thousands of feet away. To change the Jedi into wine goblets. To.....well, you get the picture.

If a Jedi attacks, the wizard simply apparates away. If they get close again, the wizard apparates away again. Shower, rinse, repeat.

And no, the Force cannot stop a wizard from apparating. sadako thinks that if a wizard walks up and death spells a Jedi, it'll bounce off the Jedi. If the Force could negate magic "Subatomically through the unified field that Yoda described the force as being in ESB", then why did Maul die? Why did Anakin get bisected? Why did Vader not sense Solo at Yavin? Why did Jinn die? Why didn't Palpatine sense Vader rising up against him? Why did Luke get shot on Jabba's sail barge? Why was Luke almost ass raped by the Wampa? Why was Yoda tagged by Sidiious' force lightning? Why was fishhead killed by Jango? Why were ANY of the Jedi killed at Geonosis?

The examples go no and on, and on......

sadako's answer? "Because that's what the force wanted." haermm

Thats "What the Living force wanted" thank you RJ.... 🙄

And thats not the full extent of my argument anyway.

Precog would see the apparation coming and the force user would pwn the wizard pre-apparation/post-apparation or even Mid apparation as long as that wizard was in the universe somewhere.

Remote viewing takes care of any location they could apparate to, also.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Thats "What the Living force wanted" thank you RJ.... 🙄

And thats not the full extent of my argument anyway.

Precog would see the apparation coming and the force user would pwn the wizard pre-apparation/post-apparation or even Mid apparation as long as that wizard was in the universe somewhere.

Remote viewing takes care of any location they could apparate to, also.

Look up "overwhelmed", dude.

Vader's precog was pwned when he was focusing on one damn X Wing. You aren't acknowledging the sheer numbers of spells and attacks the wizards have. All you see is "precog!!!!"

It'll be overwhelmed. The Jedi can only do so much. Geonosis, the Jedi were facing droid blaster fire. Imagine that x100, from all angles, from above and below, AND a big ass wall of fiendfyre.

As I said, you were overwhelmed LONNNNNNG ago, in these threads
Vaders NOT going to be overwhelmed by anything that Harry's corpse could produces, except noxious ass gasses as they inevitably escape the body.