Is anyone interested in Star Wars the Old Republic?

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
I'm not speaking of Revan's conversion, I'm speaking of their respective credibility in general.

Fair enough. I mean even Kreia was wrong at points as Revan did have contact with the True Sith Empire.

Ah, so Revan's allegiance was to the dark side and he was not merely a renegade Jedi? There is a fundamental difference.

His actions were that of a dark sider. The Battle of Malachor V is evidence of that.

So because Vader turned on Palpatine, he wasn't a pawn of the Emperor's? What about Dooku, since he desired to do the same?

Completely diffrent circumstances. Dooku/Vader actually did as Palaptine wished. Revan never really did. The Emperor set them out to get the Star Forge for him so he could create a fleet to conquer the galaxy. They did not do this.

DS
Please explain the pawn part again.

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Merriam-Webster
one that can be used to further the purposes of another

Does using Revan to fuel the Ravager further the Emperor's purposes? Y/N

Considering he gave him nothing and held back the invasion for 300 years, he would be the anti pawn.

ares834
Fair enough. I mean even Kreia was wrong at points as Revan did have contact with the True Sith Empire.

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ares834
His actions were that of a dark sider. The Battle of Malachor V is evidence of that.

It certainly didn't adhere to Jedi doctrine and philosophy, but deviating from the Jedi code does not a dark sider nor a Sith make. But whatever the case may be, Gnost Dural concludes that upon meeting the Emperor, Malak and Revan's "fall to the dark side was complete."

ares834
Completely diffrent circumstances. Dooku/Vader actually did as Palaptine wished.

He wished to die at Vader's hands?

ares834
Revan never really did. The Emperor set them out to get the Star Forge for him so he could create a fleet to conquer the galaxy. They did not do this.

And what about fueling the Ravager?

Ah, so Revan's allegiance was to the dark side and he was not merely a renegade Jedi? There is a fundamental difference.

I'd argue that his actions dictatate that his ultimate allegence was to teh Republic.

DS
Considering he gave him nothing and held back the invasion for 300 years, he would be the anti pawn.

I understand that you really like the character but simply because Revan didn't crack doesn't mean that he didn't serve the Emperor's purposes. Again, does powering the Ravager serve the Emperor's purposes or not?

Neph
I'd argue that his actions dictatate that his ultimate allegence was to teh Republic.

As would I, until he met the Emperor. Then it was to himself and his agenda. But if there is evidence indicating he was a full blown dark sider and the Emperor merely afforded him a title, I'm willing to be convinced.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
I understand that you really like the character but simply because Revan didn't crack doesn't mean that he didn't serve the Emperor's purposes. Again, does powering the Ravager serve the Emperor's purposes or not?

DS
I understand you really dislike the character

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Turr_Phennir, page 25 of this thread
The idea of Revan is intriguing and I'm looking forward to the novel for just that reason,

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DS
so you try and twist whatever you can to make your rationalizations seem valid but at the end of the day,

Ironic, considering the above. 😂

DS
Revan was a prisoner BECAUSE he was not a pawn.

Revan fueling the Ravager furthers the Emperor's purposes, DS. The fact that Revan was a reluctant and potentially dangerous pawn doesn't make him less of one.

Please show us where revan fueled the ravager, then stop trying to desperately rationalize🙂

........Is he not the power source for the device? 😕

I dont know, is he?

Lol, research fail.

I'm looking. mmm

And here I thought you always covered your ass.

Pretty hard when I can't download the actual material. 😬

Without that info, your argument fails.

DS
Without that info, your argument fails.

There's a first time for everything, I suppose. But I'm still looking. 131

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
Pretty hard when I can't download the actual material. 😬

Then you shouldn't have made the claim in the first place.

Boosh!

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I'm like 99% sure I read that somewhere. I'm thinking it may have been Lucius. mmm

When he returns, I shall ask him.

Nephthys
Then you shouldn't have made the claim in the first place.

You mean like the sexually ambiguous Brit and his claim that no source suggests that Revan was a pawn? 131