Originally posted by Nephthys
DDM, considering that he's been completely civil towards you and you've been aggressive and insulting towards him I'd lay off the claims of hypocrisy. 😬 Glass houses and all that....edit: Damn, I really shouldn't have got involved now I think about it.
How dare you get involved when he called you stupid and I took up for you.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It's impossible to say that, if there was any one time that a Jedis precog would be shot, this is it.
Why? You have zero basis for assuming that.
When the galaxy turns to the darkside the advantage is with the Sith,
When the galaxy goes "lighter" then the Jedi are most connected.
At NO point in the SW movies is it stated that a boy turning up with a stick and a book is gonna have the force moving in his favour, for so many reasons, least of all being that Harry Potter knows f**k all about the force.
🙂
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Why? You have zero basis for assuming that.
Wrong! He's right, wizards are the anti-precog equation, it's just a fact.
Never mind that that he thought Force-precog was all the rave and unbeatable, even when faced with an opponent like Spider-man, who not only has his own form of precog, but super-human reflexes and reaction-time too boot.
Wizards also "pwn" Nightcrawler, he's just not fast enough for them. Say it with me, " Magus Fellatio!" FTW.
Originally posted by Robtard
Wrong! He's right, wizards are the anti-precog equation, it's just a fact.Never mind that that he though Force-precog was all the rave and unbeatable, even when faced with an opponent like Spider-man, who not only has his own form of precog, but super-human reflexes and reaction-time too boot.
Spiderman's precog is nowhere near what a Jedi's precog is. How dare you.
Back on topic...
The wizards win this, easily. They all go: "Engorgio genit@ls" at the beginning and f**k the Jedi and Sith UP, son.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I haven't called anyone stupid.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Although you all seem to have adapted to it and view the threads as an exercise in debate...whoever gets the most points wins...instead of working together to arrive at a sound conclusion as it should be. It's silly.
In one word, what WOULD you call that, Mr. Hair splits?
Originally posted by Robtard
Wrong! He's right, wizards are the anti-precog equation, it's just a fact.Never mind that that he thought Force-precog was all the rave and unbeatable, even when faced with an opponent like Spider-man, who not only has his own form of precog, but super-human reflexes and reaction-time too boot.
Wizards also "pwn" Nightcrawler, he's just not fast enough for them. Say it with me, " Magus Fellatio!" FTW.
LOL
"Magus Fellatio"....!! 💃
Its disturbing how much meat is being beat at Hogwarts by RJ these days.
Originally posted by Bardock42
....silly? I actually did just that in the last sentence. And even if you (dadudemon) would call it stupid, it would still not mean that the people doing it are stupid, smart people can do stupid things at times.
You said too much for it to just be "silly"...which was my point, which you do get, which you are ignoring, because you want to play games, because it passes the time.
Oh dadudemon, you're such a character.
I'll repose my question though, cause I think it is interesting and RJ told me that it was the reason he made this thread in the first place:
"How do you think the force relates to HP magic in power? I had that discussion with RJ yesterday, we both agree that HP magic on the whole is more powerful. I said, however, and he seemed to disagree, that the force has it's advantages in certain situation over HP magic, I was mostly talking about the speed with which it can be used and the precog and speed advantages Jedi seem to have. What's your take?"
Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh dadudemon, you're such a character.
oh...you!
We're such chums. ho ho ho hoooo!
Originally posted by Bardock42
"How do you think the force relates to HP magic in power? I had that discussion with RJ yesterday, we both agree that HP magic on the whole is more powerful. I said, however, and he seemed to disagree, that the force has it's advantages in certain situation over HP magic, I was mostly talking about the speed with which it can be used and the precog and speed advantages Jedi seem to have. What's your take?"
Magic is more versitile and is more powerful. In a fight, though...seems the force is far more useful.
But, here's the deal: why couldn't they just brew some force power potion and drink it? Seems possible, imo.
Just as feasible that a Sith could have some Bothan spies capture a "Magic Spells" book and smite the Wizards as they sleep using force remote viewing and precog, Force lightning, Force speed and all that good shit, leaving a bunch of charred Owen Beru-like burgers.
Jedi could probably cast spells, (Especially if they lead armies of accelerated growth clone wizard troopers).
Yet HP would be screwed, having no midichloreans.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Just as feasible that a Sith could have some Bothan spies capture a "Magic Spells" book and smite the Wizards as they sleep using force remote viewing and precog, Force lightning, Force speed and all that good shit, leaving a bunch of charred Owen Beru-like burgers.Jedi could probably cast spells, (Especially if they lead armies of accelerated growth clone wizard troopers).
Yet HP would be screwed, having no midichloreans.
But....the Jedi/Sith aren't magical: they use the force. They wouldn't be able to make use of the spells, at all, because they have to have magical ability/affinity first.
Wow....sounds familiar. I wonder what JK Rowling was copying off of...
Originally posted by Bardock42Actually I believe that if it goes CQC or the wizard/s get within saber range, the battle will be over in seconds, the Jedi would obviously make mincemeat of the wizards.
Nah.So, who do you think would win in this case? And more importantly according to RJ, how do you think the force relates to HP magic in power? I had that discussion with him yesterday, we both agree that HP magic on the whole is more powerful. I said, however, and he seemed to disagree, that the force has it's advantages in certain situation over HP magic, I was mostly talking about the speed with which it can be used and the precog and speed advantages Jedi seem to have. What's your take?
But, with a wizards ability to apparate anywhere they want, whenever they want, this is nullified.
When all is said and done, the Jedi have two options: Saber attack, force attack.
Again, the wizards won't be fool enough to go toe to toe with the Jedi, so saber attack is out.
Force attack? Again, with the wizards ability to be everywhere at once, the ability to simply apparate away when force attacked, force attack is not much of a threat.
The only X factor IMO is force lightning, I admit that a wizard MIGHT not be able to apparate out of this. But, with the only two able to do this being Sidious and Dooku, I don't see it as a feasible weapon. It takes quite a while to kill someone with force lightning. If Sidious or Dooku are attacking one wizard with force lightning they are wide open for attack from fiendfyre or a death spell.
Overall I see the wizards losing MAYBE half their number in a long, drawn out battle that they win due to their ability to overwhelm the Jedi with their extensive array of powers.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Why? You have zero basis for assuming that.When the galaxy turns to the darkside the advantage is with the Sith,
When the galaxy goes "lighter" then the Jedi are most connected.At NO point in the SW movies is it stated that a boy turning up with a stick and a book is gonna have the force moving in his favour, for so many reasons, least of all being that Harry Potter knows f**k all about the force.
🙂
Just saying. All it took was a boy in an X Wing to screw Vaders precog. And he is supposedly Mr. Midichlorian, yes?
With all that will be going on here, it's ludicrous to imply that force precog will work flawlessly.
Palpy didn't see Vader rising up against him, and he was focused on one thing, Luke.
Vader didn't sense where Luke was in the throne room battle.
Obi Wan sensed thta the Death Star was a battle station too late.
Luke didn't sense the dude who shot him in the hand on Jabba's sail barge.
Luke didn't sense Palpy firing force lightning at him in ROTJ.
And that's just the PT, and I am sure I left out a few examples.
Now, force speed.....It's obvious that the Jedi cannot use it all the time, only in spurts. Proof?
Why didn't Obi Wan use it when trying to rejoin the saber duel in TPM?
Why didn't the Jedi use it on Geonosis?
Why didn't Mace use it while fighting Sidious? Or the other Jedi for that matter?
Why did Luke never use it?
But, here's the deal: why couldn't they just brew some force power potion and drink it? Seems possible, imo.
So many things wrong with your post, man. Soooooo many things.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Just saying. All it took was a boy in an X Wing to screw Vaders precog. And he is supposedly Mr. Midichlorian, yes?
Who happened to be the grandson of the force AND that moment was simply PIS as Anakin wouldn't have fallen for that. 😐
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
With all that will be going on here, it's ludicrous to imply that force precog will work flawlessly.
It will not as it has never worked like that for anyone, however, the Magical users don't pose enough of a threat to push the limits. 😬
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Palpy didn't see Vader rising up against him, and he was focused on one thing, Luke.
Wrong. Palps was a suspicious person. He killed his own master. That's literally the way of the Sith: kill your master and become the master.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Vader didn't sense where Luke was in the throne room battle.
Yet, he still read his thoughts. Odd. 😐
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Obi Wan sensed thta the Death Star was a battle station too late.
Right.......cause sensing the traits of an object, not an organism, is something the force can do all the time. facepalm
He was using his own knowledge and brain to figure that out, dude: not the dang force.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Luke didn't sense the dude who shot him in the hand on Jabba's sail barge.
Yes, a Jedi that had 2 years of training when Jedi of the previous generation had about two decades of training before they reached his age.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Luke didn't sense Palpy firing force lightning at him in ROTJ.
Oh really? Luke knew that the emperor was strong and death was a high possability. Yoda even warned Luke.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And that's just the PT, and I am sure I left out a few examples.
You mean the OT.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Now, force speed.....It's obvious that the Jedi cannot use it all the time, only in spurts. Proof?Spurts and spurts only. Anyone who says otherwise is a blind fanboy.
Why didn't Obi Wan use it when trying to rejoin the saber duel in TPM?
Why didn't the Jedi use it on Geonosis?
Spurts and only spurts and only in a straight line. Anyone who says otherwise is a blind fanboy.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Why didn't Mace use it while fighting Sidious? Or the other Jedi for that matter?
I don't see how running in a straight line is going to help in a duel. 😐
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Why did Luke never use it?
"Yes, a Jedi that had 2 years of training when Jedi of the previous generation had about two decades of training before they reached his age."
And, protego is not an energy barrier, it is a magical barrier.
Protego doesn't protect against the force, either, because the force is not magic.
Protego is never shown on screen to block energy. It is never shown on screen to block physical objects, only magic. In fact, I have some major pwnage for you if you still believe protego even works. 😐