Gotei 13 vs. The Akatsuki

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Gotei 13 vs. The Akatsuki

Team 1:

Yama
Soifon
Gin
Unohana
Aizen
Byakuya
Komamura
Shunsui
Tosen
Toshiro
Kenpachi
Mayuri
Jushiro

Team 2:

Deidara
Hidan
Kisame
Kakuzu
Konan
Orochimaru
Pein
Sasori
Itachi
Madara
Sasuke
Suigetsu
Jugo

NOTE: replaced Zetsu with Sasuke 'cause as far as i know, he has no offensive skill. Added Suigetsu and Jugo just to even out the numbers.

No power restrictions, fight takes place on Earth... who wins?

Team 1, much stronger.

The Akatsuki have some abilities that are a threat to Captains, but Bleach characters are faster (S-class ninja probably move fairly near mach. Captain-class Bleachers move multi-mach), more resistant to damage (Ninja are glass canons with rare exceptions, Captains are tanks), and higher across-the-board stats (a strength-based ninja may compete in muscle, or a firepower based ninja may compete in firepower, but all captains have great strength/toughness/speed/etc.).

Mostly the Ninja are more specialized and can only compete in the area they're specifically best at. They can probably inflict some casualties if they go uber-jutsu off the bat, Amaterasu everyone who can move while the teams hide behind Susano'os, Tobi warps mega Deidara bombs to their targets, and Pain tries to moon-control all the enemies, but if it pairs up to individual fights they're totally screwed, and they'll still eventually lose.

Speed and strength would play a huge part in this and the Gotei 13 definitely has that advantage overall. However, the entire Gotei 13 was fooled by Aizen's Shikai...

take into consideration that Akatsuki has three Sharingan users, not to mention a Rinnegan user. I think we will agree that any form of Sharigan is superior to Aizen's perfect hypnosis and that perfect hypnosis would have no effect on the four Akatsuki member's with eye techniques. That said, i have to figure Madara, Itachi and Sasuke will immediately incapacitate at least half of the gotei 13 before any of them can even think about releasing.

Let's say Zaraki somehow isn't one of the people who gets caught in an eye technique... the obvious matchup would be him vs Kisame. If we equate Chakra to Reiatsu, Kisame's sword will eat up the majority of Zaraki's energy.

Pein could definitely take Yama.

It would be interesting to see how a fight between Soi Fon and Hidan would work since her Shikai is two shot auto kill, But Hidan can't be killed.

There are some unknowns in terms of not knowing some of the captain's Bankai capabilities, but I haven't even mentioned Orochimaru yet who is all but invincible.

Originally posted by marwash22
take into consideration that Akatsuki has three Sharingan users, not to mention a Rinnegan user. I think we will agree that any form of Sharigan is superior to Aizen's perfect hypnosis and that perfect hypnosis would have no effect on the four Akatsuki member's with eye techniques.

Wrong.

Originally posted by marwash22
That said, i have to figure Madara, Itachi and Sasuke will immediately incapacitate at least half of the gotei 13 before any of them can even think about releasing.

Wrong.

Originally posted by marwash22
Let's say Zaraki somehow isn't one of the people who gets caught in an eye technique... the obvious matchup would be him vs Kisame. If we equate Chakra to Reiatsu, Kisame's sword will eat up the majority of Zaraki's energy.

Wrong.

Originally posted by marwash22
Pein could definitely take Yama.

Very, VERY wrong.

Originally posted by marwash22
It would be interesting to see how a fight between Soi Fon and Hidan would work since her Shikai is two shot auto kill, But Hidan can't be killed.

She'd be best to pursue something else, then. Her bankai can blow him up given he's the slowest person here.

Originally posted by marwash22
There are some unknowns in terms of not knowing some of the captain's Bankai capabilities, but I haven't even mentioned Orochimaru yet who is all but invincible.

Wrong.

@ King Kandy

very riveting and succinct points you make.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Wrong.

No, correct. I don't think any illusion techniques would work on Itachi, Sasuke, Madara, or Pain. You don't have any proof that Aizen's sword work on a Sharingan user. In fact, you have no proof that they work on humans, period.

You can't just make statements like that without proving it.

It's up to the thread starter, imo.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Wrong.
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Agreed. The speed from Bleach Captains is just on a completely different level from Naruto characters.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Wrong.

I sort of disagree.

I think that it would turn out to be a similar situation in that filler episode where Goku gave that one creature too much energy and it exploded.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Very, VERY wrong.

No one would be able to touch Yamamoto. He just has to flex his Reiatesu.

Originally posted by King Kandy
She'd be best to pursue something else, then. Her bankai can blow him up given he's the slowest person here.

Nah. She'd be a good match-up for anyone. They'd all die.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Wrong.

Nah. That's completely true. You're just being doodoo butter.

@ dadudemon

on the second reply, what does speed have to do with what i wrote? Also, even taking speed into account, there is no speed that is too fast for Sharingan to counter. Point is, as soon as Itachi lays an eye on one of the bleach captains, it's over.

If Yoruichi (the best shunpo user in bleach) was apart of this, not even she would be able to overcome the eye speed of a Sharingan user.

Originally posted by marwash22
@ dadudemon

on the second reply, what does speed have to do with what i wrote? Also, even taking speed into account, there is no speed that is too fast for Sharingan to counter. Point is, as soon as Itachi lays an eye on one of the bleach captains, it's over.

If Yoruichi (the best shunpo user in bleach) was apart of this, not even she would be able to overcome the eye speed of a Sharingan user.

You're incorrect.

Naruto was moving too fast for the Sharingan, pre-timeskip, while in a single tail cloaked form, against Sasuke.

Raikage was moving too fast for Sasuke to use the Sharingan against him.

Do you read Bleach and Naruto?

I read and watch bleach, i only watch naruto.

I need clarification... If we equate their power, is there anything to suggest that Yama (the strongest bleach captain) is as powerful as Naruto in demon cloak, with 4 tails? I could very well be wrong, but no bleach character has displayed that kind of power.

Also, i didn't mean to say that, if a bleach character used shunpo to attack one of the Sharingan user's, the sharingan user could keep up. What i meant is that no bleach character would be fast enough kill Itachi, Sasuke or Madara before the eye technique is implemented.

No.

The only think that happens is reitsu = chakra


I need clarification... If we equate their power, is there anything to suggest that Yama (the strongest bleach captain) is as powerful as Naruto in demon cloak, with 4 tails? I could very well be wrong, but no bleach character has displayed that kind of power.

I'm fairly certain no Naruto character has displayed power on this scale. The dome next to it is so massive that after running to the point of exhaustion, when its been established (by himself though) that Ichigo can run for about 5 days without rest on a machine specifically designed to tire him out quickly, that its still no bigger or closer. Though its unknown how long they've actually been running for. It should be noted as well that this took no visible effort on Ulq's part and that he immediately made another again without effort.


Also, i didn't mean to say that, if a bleach character used shunpo to attack one of the Sharingan user's, the sharingan user could keep up. What i meant is that no bleach character would be fast enough kill Itachi, Sasuke or Madara before the eye technique is implemented.

I don't know about this. Bleach characters have insane reaction times, able to react to and dodge swords literally millimeters from their faces. Coupled with their high speed....

Hey, I'm not questioning that at all, i completely agree... but like i said before, the entire Gotei 13 was caught by Aizen's hypnosis which by all accounts, is inferior to Sharingan; so i seriously doubt any captain can do a thing to thwart the sharingan.

All it takes for Itachi to kill you is eye contact. 😎

I wasn't aware of that. What technique allows him to kill with eye contact again?

Originally posted by Nephthys
I wasn't aware of that. What technique allows him to kill with eye contact again?
That's one of the main functions of the Sharingan.

Much like Aizen's perfect hypnosis, as soon as you see it (it, being Aizen's sword and Itachi's eyes) you are immediately placed under it's influence. For someone like Itatchi or Madara who are both extremely adept in genjutsu, they would easily kill multiple captains before swords could be unsheathed.

Are you seriously this out of touch with things?

Post someone getting killed by Tsukuyomi. EVER.

I have read every chapter of naruto. It never happens. Ever. EVER.

I dont even think anybody has claimed it to be able to do that

your just a anime fan boy

Originally posted by marwash22
Hey, I'm not questioning that at all, i completely agree... but like i said before, the entire Gotei 13 was caught by Aizen's hypnosis which by all accounts, is inferior to Sharingan;

Based on what? Aizen has permanent control of the senses... at the very best, Tsukiyomi gives you the same for about... 3 seconds.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, correct. I don't think any illusion techniques would work on Itachi, Sasuke, Madara, or Pain. You don't have any proof that Aizen's sword work on a Sharingan user. In fact, you have no proof that they work on humans, period.

You can't just make statements like that without proving it.

It's up to the thread starter, imo.


Pein was caught by Genjutsu before.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Based on what? Aizen has permanent control of the senses... at the very best, Tsukiyomi gives you the same for about... 3 seconds.
based on the fact that, Aizen's ability doesn't keep him from seeing through or being caught in other people's illusions; Sharingan does exactly that.

Aizen wouldn't be able to put Madara/Itachi/Sasuke under.
Madara/Itachi/Sasuke would be able to put Aizen under.

Sharingan > Suigetsu

Originally posted by marwash22
based on the fact that, Aizen's ability doesn't keep him from seeing through or being caught in other people's illusions; Sharingan does exactly that.

Aizen [b]wouldn't be able to put Madara/Itachi/Sasuke under.
Madara/Itachi/Sasuke would be able to put Aizen under.

Sharingan > Suigetsu [/B]


Sharingan never stopped people from being caught in Tsukiyomi, why would Suigetsu be any different?

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Are you seriously this out of touch with things?

Post someone getting killed by Tsukuyomi. EVER.

I have read every chapter of naruto. It never happens. Ever. EVER.

I dont even think anybody has claimed it to be able to do that

I never once said that the Tsukuyomi itself could kill anyone. My point was that, once you're caught in it, you are effectively dead because Itachi owns you. Kakashi said it himself.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
[B]your just a anime fan boy
This is a forum dedicated to anime, in which, you to, are on... aren't we all fanboys?