Gotei 13 vs. The Akatsuki

Started by dadudemon7 pages
Originally posted by King Kandy
And so your argument is that, since Genjutsu worked perfectly the only time it was tried... Pein is genjutsu-resistant?

Against Eye Genjutsu. Yes. 🙂

Originally posted by King Kandy
I really don't see where you're coming from, since the rinnegan was never shown to resist illusions.

It is superior to the Sharingan. 🙂

Also, did I mention 🙂

The only way Pain would lose to an Eye technique: Pain was in the middle of adjusting a flag on government property. 😆

where was it stated that the rinnegan was superior to the sharingan in every way, or in countering genjutsu?

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
where was it stated that the rinnegan was superior to the sharingan in every way, or in countering genjutsu?

Chapter 347, page 4.

This is page 4 of chapter 347.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Against Eye Genjutsu. Yes. 🙂

Evidence?

Originally posted by dadudemon
It is superior to the Sharingan. 🙂

It has it's own powers that are better. In terms of genjutsu... no, there is nothing indicating that.

Originally posted by King Kandy
No... you were shown every evidence that suigetsu can do what tsukiyomi can, but better, all you could do in response was to say "the two are on different levels, so they can't be compared", while offering ZERO substantiation evidence to actually support such an assertion.
Ahhhhh, i see. Perhaps i was too hasty in my defense.

Tsukuyomi and Suigetsu.... EQUAL! I will concede to that.

Originally posted by King Kandy
How about you tell me why you believe Tsukiyomi>Kyoka Suigetsu, when Suigetsu has factually shown greater capabilities?

You're absolutely correct and i apologize for skewing my argument.

Tsukuyomi = Suigetsu. This is a greed upon, correct?

That said, Tsukuyomi is only one aspect of the Sharingan. What i was arguing this entire time is that...

Sharingan > Suigetsu.

To that point, my argument is that, Sharingan users are highly resistent to hypnosis since their perception is uncanny. Taking that into consideration, how exactly will Aizen's Suigetsu ever come into play against the three Sharingan users? Also, Aizen has no defense against the sharingan.

I'll say it again, for like the third time...
Aizen cannot put Madara, Itachi or Sasuke under.
Madara, Itachi or Sasuke can put Aizen under.

Originally posted by marwash22
Ahhhhh, i see. Perhaps i was too hasty in my defense.

Tsukuyomi and Suigetsu.... EQUAL! I will concede to that.


Cool. That's all I needed to know. Because Tsukiyomi CAN affect sharingan users, and Suigetsu will as well then.

Originally posted by marwash22
To that point, my argument is that, Sharingan users are highly resistent to hypnosis since their perception is uncanny.

Tsukiyomi has easily affected people who use sharingan, and a base sharingan cannot break tsukiyomi. Thus I think we have ample reason to believe they will both fall for Suigetsu, and be unable to escape it.

This is all complete speculation; neither of us have any actual weight behind our stance... HOWEVER, which of the following do you think will happen first...

Aizen drawing his sword and releasing his zanpakuto.
or
Madara, Itachi or Sasuke, looking Aizen in the eyes.

The first one. Aizen is way faster and isn't going to look at them.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Evidence?

It has it's own powers that are better. In terms of genjutsu... no, there is nothing indicating that.

I was being a smart arse. 😆

Demonic Phoenix had to go and post up the actual scan, though. 🙁

Aizen hs no reason to look them in the eyes

Infact his most used tactic is blitz + stab/slash in back

lol, you guys are just trying to be contrary. Aizen has no knowledge of the Sharingan or it's abilities. You can't honestly believe he would look at least on of his opponents in the eye.

we have a difference of opinion and no matter what I say, you'll just counter it with flawed logic. The same is probably true for me as well. 😗

He has thirteen opponents... it would be foolish to focus on any one of them.

True. But all it takes is a glance. You're telling me that if there are thirteen people lined up, Aizen wont scan the battlefield?

Without knowledge that looking into three of the fighters eyes would be detrimental, he'd most definitely look at least one of them in eye, even if it's for a nanosecond.

If there were 13 opponents aizen wouldnt scan the battlefield

He would active the land mines he placed there on the off chance he would be fighting in the near future :creepgrin:

Originally posted by marwash22
True. But all it takes is a glance. You're telling me that if there are thirteen people lined up, Aizen wont scan the battlefield?

Without knowledge that looking into three of the fighters eyes would be detrimental, he'd most definitely look at least one of them in eye, even if it's for a nanosecond.


Not really... I don't think he would make eye contact at all, the first thing he would do is release his shikai. And then he's won.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Not really... I don't think he would make eye contact at all, the first thing he would do is release his shikai. And then he's won.
conjecture.

this is all conjecture. "conjecture" is not a valid counter or negation of a point in any way

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
this is all conjecture. "conjecture" is not a valid counter or negation of a point in any way
neither is PIS.. but the bullshyt gets tossed around like Renji against, well, anyone.

Originally posted by marwash22
conjecture.

Not really... that's what he did when he was confronting the hollows in Los Noches.