Gotei 13 vs. The Akatsuki

Started by Demonic Phoenix7 pages

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
That is ****ing hilarious

The majority of naruto and bleach characters ride the short bus

the only exceptions are raikage Killerbee and maybe shinkimaru

On the level of Hubris that Barragan has displayed? Nahh.

Barragan and Hubris go hand in hand. Even fools like Orochimaru can't compete with Barragan's haughtiness.
Szayel is the only one who could match Barragan in that department.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Last guy to use a trick was the bug guy who fought madara

Seems you've forgotten about Ao's skirmish with Fū, and Sasuke tricking Danzou.

Originally posted by dadudemon
In fact, no Bleach character release with any sort of quickness: it's like...built into the standard operating procedures.

Ya know, the first part of this statement, if taken a certain way, could please very many fangirls.

~ You are right though. It's like it is with most fights in manga. They duke it out for a bit, then slowly pull out their trump cards and stuff.

dunno why but your post made me laugh 😂

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

Seems you've forgotten about Ao's skirmish with Fū, and Sasuke tricking Danzou.
Ao and fu ring no bells.

And sasuke didnt trick Danzo he just exploited an obvious weakness

I call that Using your noggin

Ao is the byakugan guy from Mist, Fu is the member of Ino's clan with possession that's in Root.

Originally posted by marwash22

Also, you have failed to explain why Madara, Itachi or Sasuke wouldn't see through Aizen's hypnosis with the use of their Sharingan. Do you mean to tell me, that Shinji, who doe not possess the Sharingan, can see through Aizen's hypnosis, but Itachi, who does posses the Sharingan, cannot?

I'll be happy to concede the point and admit I'm wrong... provided you give me valid reasoning.

Uhh... ya made a mistake there, Shinji never saw through Suigetsu's ability. He simply made it much harder for Aizen to use it.

Another thing I feel important to stress is the fact that Tousen and Gin are in this fight, and both of them have abilities that wuld be devastating to anybody narutoverse.

However though, if ya ask me the first person to get kill in this fight is Toshiro

Originally posted by Anderson FTW!!!
Uhh... ya made a mistake there, Shinji never saw through Suigetsu's ability. He simply made it much harder for Aizen to use it.
I don't get what you mean. During the TBTP arc, Shinji ripped apart Aizen's shikai illusion... much to the amazement of Aizen.

Originally posted by Anderson FTW!!!
Another thing I feel important to stress is the fact that Tousen and Gin are in this fight, and both of them have abilities that wuld be devastating to anybody narutoverse.
Perhaps. I haven't given thought to it and i forget if it's been addressed.

Originally posted by marwash22
Can people seriously just look at this from a logical, unbiased viewpoint? When i made this thread, i did so without actually having an opinion on which team would win the fight. As i started hearing other peoples opinion, i shifted heavily toward the Akatsuki because til this point, no one has yet to provide sufficient evidence which would lead me to believe that Aizen can resist Sharingan... or for that matter, that Sharingan user's can't resist his perfect hypnosis.

Just when i thought people were starting to think logically and accept that Sharingan user's had the edge, the irrational and completely unfounded proof that, "Aizen would never look anyone in the eye" started to surface.... gimme a break! When has Aizen ever shown his modus operandi to include the following... immediately pulling out his shikai in battle, or not being a smug and arrogant prick who ALWAYS looks people in the eye and talks incessantly about how superior he is?

FACT: Aizen has never once drawn his sword without knowing if he had to do so. Therefore, you can't make a character go outside of their typical procedure, just to make a point. Furthermore, it is a fact, that Itachi will activate genjutsu immediately... that's just how he operates in battle, it's his main tactic 'cause he never shuts his sharingan off.

Why is everyone so afraid to be wrong? I'll have no problem conceding when you can logically convince me that, Aizen's Suigetsu, which is based solely on the principle of distorting perception, would ever work on someone who's primary and most powerful form of defense, is perceiving and countering the changes in all aspects of reality.

Truthfully marwash22, you and dadudemon are the only two people on this thread who sound afraid to be wrong

Gotei 13 stomp...

Originally posted by marwash22
I don't get what you mean. During the TBTP arc, Shinji ripped apart Aizen's shikai illusion... much to the amazement of Aizen.
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Whoops, nevermind you were right. Guess I forgot about that.

not really. But that's your opinion, so no worries. tell me where my logic falters; i don't care enough about this to be stubborn, i just need facts to be swayed...

if you think about it...bleach takes this especially with current aizen & yamamoto's destructive abilities then you have to deal with multiple binding spells and hado spells that can turn the favor in the captains favor...also theirs komamura's bankai(while i dont think it would take anyone out due to being slow) that would get most of the attention due to its massive size which would kinda leave the akatsuki sort of distracted...then you have shunshi sneaking around into ppl's shadows and taking advantage of them having no knowledge ow whats going on....

In all honesty, as much as I want to root for the Gotei 13....the Akatsuki have more backing them up, feat wise anyway. Sure the captains of the Gotei 13 appear to be insanely fast and have bankais that could one-shot the majority of the Narutoverse....the grim thing about it is that they don't one-shot anything(or any opponent with significance).

Madara's apparently untouchable due to his hax sharingan abilities, Hidan is immortal and can even resist decapitation although whether or not he can resist being disintergrated has yet to be see. Itachi could spam some Susanoo however since its a chakra technique, maybe zanpakuto can get around it. Then there are Pein and Deidera, whom of which, have the best destruction feats.

However the captains have the speed advantage and that would presumably allow them to get more hits off. Plus there's Mayuri's bankai which could cause a problem for some of the more prominent members. Bleach would most likely win but if C4, Chibaku Tenshi, or one of Madara's warping techniques gets out then the Gotei 13 are pretty much done.

Once again...apologies for the lengh;I'm voting for the Gotei BTW

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
In all honesty, as much as I want to root for the Gotei 13....the Akatsuki have more backing them up, feat wise anyway. Sure the captains of the Gotei 13 appear to be insanely fast and have bankais that could one-shot the majority of the Narutoverse....the grim thing about it is that they don't one-shot anything(or any opponent with significance).

Madara's apparently untouchable due to his hax sharingan abilities, Hidan is immortal and can even resist decapitation although whether or not he can resist being disintergrated has yet to be see. Itachi could spam some Susanoo however since its a chakra technique, maybe zanpakuto can get around it. Then there are Pein and Deidera, whom of which, have the best destruction feats.

However the captains have the speed advantage and that would presumably allow them to get more hits off. Plus there's Mayuri's bankai which could cause a problem for some of the more prominent members. Bleach would most likely win but if C4, Chibaku Tenshi, or one of Madara's warping techniques gets out then the Gotei 13 are pretty much done.

Once again...apologies for the lengh;I'm voting for the Gotei BTW

while thats true i still think that bleach also could bind any one of the akatsuki befor they could do any significant damage....and also theirs also aizen's shikia, shunshi's shikai, gins bankai and last but certainly not least this:

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/393/04/

i dont see anyone tanking any of yamamoto's attack nor do i see anyone doing any real damage to the new aizen...but pein and itachi could pose a big threat

Originally posted by dw6xl
while thats true i still think that bleach also could bind any one of the akatsuki befor they could do any significant damage....and also theirs also aizen's shikia, shunshi's shikai, gins bankai and last but certainly not least this:

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/393/04/

This is true. To be honest, Byakuya and Gin alone would get most of the Akatsuki. The C4 and Chibaku Tenshi could spell trouble if they got out but I think the big three would be able to tank it. I still have no idea how they're going to get Madara and Hidan though. Itachi's Susanoo and inextinguishable Amateratsu would also be abit of trouble if they hit.

Adding Aizen's hougyoku amp is a bit too much in my opinion since its power is still in speculation.

aizen could get madara wit his shikai and make him think he won and turn back to normal and then they could get him...and as far as hidan...they could bind him to where he can't do nothin makin him useless

5 year bump!

Originally posted by marwash22
5 year bump!

For the love of God why?

Madara yawns and kills all of Bleach verse.

actually, Madara isn't in this fight. This thread was made when Tobi revealed himself to be Madara, so it's actually Obito, not Madara.

and i bumped it because there have been significant power changes in the last 5 years.

Honestly Naruto stands little chance given these are pre-War incarnations and post-War incarnations for Bleach.

it's current version of each character, sans outside upgrades like juubi for Obito or hogyoku for Aizen.