Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
That's true, Zant does appear to be a reality warper, in however limited his room size is.And one of the rooms he created was filled with water, can Kain and Raziel swim?
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Also note here that even with these great powers of teleporting, TK, reality warping, etc. That it is Ganon who gave him this power. Ganon is such a beast.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They accompanied him but his powers were what even created the shadow beasts.What makes you think based on what you saw any old human can beat him?
Maybe, so?
I did not say any old human can beat him, I just think that anything more than a human would beat him. A vampire could slice him to piecies, he has no feats of strength or durability to help him.
Originally posted by Cyner
YouTube videoif you don't want to watch the entire thing, which gives Zant a ton of feats anyway. Just watch 5:14 for Zant's "slow" teleport.
I know, I watched it a few minutes before saying what I said before. its not reality warping, otherwise he would have done more than simply mimic environments, theres no indication that hes done anything more than mimic previous entities and teleported to those environments. The teleport itself is very slow. The "feats"? lol dont get me started, their limited, predictable and featless at most when considering strength, durability and overall power. Illusions of previous battles.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
And one of the rooms he created was filled with water, can Kain and Raziel swim?
Kain cannot, Raziel can. And again, prove he created the "room" and did not simply teleport there? each location mimics a previous boss battle.
Originally posted by Cyner
Well you need to watch it again, he teleports and less than a second later he's behind you again attacking with swords.Also if he can just teleport people anywhere he wants to, what's to keep him from teleporting kain 20,000 leagues beneath the sea?
No I dont, when he teleports both himself and link it takes bout 5 seconds to charge up and release the red ring that appears around him which teleports him to each location.
Whos to say he can teleport anyhwere he wants to? and he would never get the chance ,Kains teleport is far faster than this one and would kill Zant, said teleport or one of Kains many transformations would limit the effectiveness of said power anyway.
Whats to stop Kain from mindcontrolling Zant and then forcing him to teleport him, Link and Ganon severla miles beneath the Earth next to the Elder Gods inumerable mass that then proceeds to crush them to dust?
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
But since the room melds away and other teleportation techniques show him breaking himself down it is more logical to say that he warped the room.
Completly different technique. Him simply copying almost perfectly (including broken bridges/platforms at Dangaroos level) a level and then copying that bosses moves to some degree makes no common sense and does not indicate warping, the only thing he may have warped is himself to mimic the bosses but its more likely an illusion.
What's stopping Kain from mind controlling Zant is a Master Sword through his face, or Ganon's anything.
I lol'd at Elder God crushing them, too. He is immaterial after all, is he not? That's what you said, and assuming you are correct he cannot touch them. If he can, he would be material, and susceptible to harm.
Link's general immunity to the magic of the evil Zant also prevents this. Ganon can just teleport himself back.
Edit: Play the game before you say what's most likely.
Dammit, I treated you like a person.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
What's stopping Kain from mind controlling Zant is a Master Sword through his face, or Ganon's anything.I lol'd at Elder God crushing them, too. He is immaterial after all, is he not? That's what you said, and assuming you are correct he cannot touch them. If he can, he would be material, and susceptible to harm.
Link's general immunity to the magic of the evil Zant also prevents this. Ganon can just teleport himself back.
Edit: Play the game before you say what's most likely.
Dammit, I treated you like a person.
Yeh right.....and whats stopping any of hyrules forces is a thousand multiplying tentacles scraping through their forces. Difference between my statement and yours is mine is possible.
Not in this fight and EG is immaterial to his opponents, their not immaterial to him so stop trying to claim ignorance. You dont understand the EG. He can bury hyrules forces, the fact they can see and touch him only allows them to have some clue at whats causing the super earthquake thats swallowing their region.
Nah it doesnt and Link is teleported alongside it so all this "immunity" BS is getting old. Not founded tbh, Ganon would not even know where he is let alone start up his slow teleport.
Look into common sense and the actual game instead of fanon before you say whats more likely.
Yes, you should treat me as a superior person....damn you and your imputance!
Originally posted by Cyner
BT stop being an arrogant ******* for one second and dismissing what I'm telling you. At 5:14 the final fight starts, if you watch him teleport, it does not take 5 seconds, stop being lazy and watch it.
Stop whining and actually watch your own evidence.
0:28-0:33 Zants first translocation. 5 seconds....
1:08-1:10 Zants second is only 2/3 seconds but still not fast by any means and the others afterwards are similiar therefore he is quicker by 2 seconds after the first cast which takes long enough for him to be killed in a strike from a Sarafan arrow, Vampire blast or to be interrupted completly by Tk and throttled into the ground.
5:14 is not the teleport that transfers others, its just a short range quick teleport that still wont help him.
I would love to see you prove that a teleport is short range, lmao. Do it. I NEED to see it.
As for the rest of it, yeah, Ganon could kill Kain with his penis.
Well, this ability isn't any different from Ganon's resistance to non-holy weapons. And this is if the thing is actually immaterial, which I doubt.
Probably because it's not a teleport lol, thanks for helping me prove it's actually a warp of reality.
Actually I should treat you like the dumbshit you portray yourself to be. The true hero in me refuses to believe you actually believe all this LoK nonsense you come up with.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I would love to see you prove that a teleport is short range, lmao. Do it. I NEED to see it.As for the rest of it, yeah, Ganon could kill Kain with his penis.
Well, this ability isn't any different from Ganon's resistance to non-holy weapons. And this is if the thing is actually immaterial, which I doubt.
Probably because it's not a teleport lol, thanks for helping me prove it's actually a warp of reality.
Actually I should treat you like the dumbshit you portray yourself to be. The true hero in me refuses to believe you actually believe all this LoK nonsense you come up with.
It was proven that this particular one is short ranged as thats how Znat uses it. The long range one that can teleport more than one person takes a charge of 5 seconds.
Nah. Ganons tiny tentacle will shrivel to match Kains gnarly tan hide at the sight of the Elder Gods monstrous beasts.
Yes it is, its not a no limit fallacy for starters.
Pointing out link is teleported with him automatically proves this is warping reality? 😆
lol, go and play a game, preferably your own series so you can see past your fanon. And everything about Lok has been proven using plain evidence, not ambigious opinionated fanon and poorly thought out math.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I would love to see you prove that a teleport is short range, lmao. Do it. I NEED to see it.As for the rest of it, yeah, Ganon could kill Kain with his penis.
Well, this ability isn't any different from Ganon's resistance to non-holy weapons. And this is if the thing is actually immaterial, which I doubt.
Probably because it's not a teleport lol, thanks for helping me prove it's actually a warp of reality.
Actually I should treat you like the dumbshit you portray yourself to be. The true hero in me refuses to believe you actually believe all this LoK nonsense you come up with.
Originally posted by Burning thought
It was proven that this particular one is short ranged as thats how Znat uses it. The long range one that can teleport more than one person takes a charge of 5 seconds.Nah. Ganons tiny tentacle will shrivel to match Kains gnarly tan hide at the sight of the Elder Gods monstrous beasts.
Yes it is, its not a no limit fallacy for starters.
Pointing out link is teleported with him automatically proves this is warping reality? 😆
lol, go and play a game, preferably your own series so you can see past your fanon. And everything about Lok has been proven using plain evidence, not ambigious opinionated fanon and poorly thought out math.
Teleports can't have a distance limitation according to the technical definition. And really, he only used it for short distance, so that means it only goes short distances? I find this interesting, does this mean Kain's faster teleport is only short distance? link-rape
Ganon's shit is more terrifying than anything in LoK.
No, pointing out Link was affected means that the magic did not affect him, it affected his surroundings.
Where was I when LoK had real feats and evidence posted?
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
From what I remember, Kain's teleport (when Raziel fights him) isn't as fast as Zant's.
Kains teleport he uses on Raziel is not as fast as Zants one he uses in the last fight. His dimentional one is faster however.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Teleports can't have a distance limitation according to the technical definition. And really, he only used it for short distance, so that means it only goes short distances? I find this interesting, does this mean Kain's faster teleport is only short distance? link-rapeGanon's shit is more terrifying than anything in LoK.
No, pointing out Link was affected means that the magic did not affect him, it affected his surroundings.
Where was I when LoK had real feats and evidence posted?
Then its Zants limitation in combat, otherwise his other teleports would not be so slow, also these powers if they are teleports are quicker than Ganons which would not make sense as hes the stronger of the two. No because this is not implied and Kain does not have a slow teleport per say.
Ganon in Lok "would" be their shit, only to be flushed regularly like a clinging beastie on the side of the pan.
No it doesnt, it just means Link was teleported via magic. Theres no "reality warping" outlined.
Your not going to try this again are you? the last time you did this your next post contained you admitting that there was infact a lot of evidence.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Then its Zants limitation in combat, otherwise his other teleports would not be so slow, also these powers if they are teleports are quicker than Ganons which would not make sense as hes the stronger of the two. No because this is not implied and Kain does not have a slow teleport per say.
Since when are Ganon's teleports slower?
Yes, Kain does have a slow teleport. I've seen it.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Ganon in Lok "would" be their shit, only to be flushed regularly like a clinging beastie on the side of the pan.
There is really nothing I can say about this. For whatever reason, you chose to undermine yourself by putting "would" in quotation marks.
Originally posted by Burning thought
No it doesnt, it just means Link was teleported via magic. Theres no "reality warping" outlined.
Fact list time, because I know you respond to these so well.
1. Zant's teleport actually shows him being broken down/shrunk before disappearing. The reality warping does not (this means it isn't a teleport).
2. Link is unaffected by evil magic. Zant is evil, yet, according to you, was able to affect Link with his magic anyway (this means that Link wasn't actually the target of the magic).
3. The room actually melts away and reforms (to teleport, Link and Zant would have to have done that).
Originally posted by Burning thought
Your not going to try this again are you? the last time you did this your next post contained you admitting that there was infact a lot of evidence.
Your definition of "a lot" is three? That's my definition of "few." And, those few do not support everything you say.
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeKain can teleport whereas raziel won't be really affected at all by it. Kain's the one with the weakness to water.
That's true, Zant does appear to be a reality warper, in however limited his room size is.And one of the rooms he created was filled with water, can Kain and Raziel swim?
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Originally posted by Burning thoughtHow could they do so if an entire army didn't feel comfortable to send assassins or what not to dispose of him? He's far above any human and handled Midna with her amp and Link midway through like children. He's a badass.
Maybe, so?I did not say any old human can beat him, I just think that anything more than a human would beat him. A vampire could slice him to piecies, he has no feats of strength or durability to help him.
I know, I watched it a few minutes before saying what I said before. its not reality warping, otherwise he would have done more than simply mimic environments, theres no indication that hes done anything more than mimic previous entities and teleported to those environments. The teleport itself is very slow. The "feats"? lol dont get me started, their limited, predictable and featless at most when considering strength, durability and overall power. Illusions of previous battles.
Kain cannot, Raziel can. And again, prove he created the "room" and did not simply teleport there? each location mimics a previous boss battle.