I had a lulz, then I remembered even you don't actually believe that and I lulz'd harder. Keep on trolling, you're only wasting your own time. Every page in this thread has Scenario, myself, NemeBro, or Moo detailing why LoK gets soloed. So, yeah. If that still hasn't sunk in, you're extremely dense.
Have been being extremely dense.
lol, the biggest troll of them all calling someone else a troll is quite amusing. And no not quite, every page in this thread has me tooling all 4 of you using your own evidence against you, my evidence and the evidence from Bloodrain, Sin and other LoZ fans who do not push fanon to the limit.
The best your little group of trolls is for is spamming senseless pages of "zomg ganon soloz!" or at least what pretty much boils down to that, especially when you get trumped (every counter post 🙂)
Originally posted by Burning thoughtI see no counter argument to intangibility, lightning time reflexes, 4.5 gigajoule strength, extreem durability, reality warping, island busting, or telekinesis. GG, I win.
lol, the biggest troll of them all calling someone else a troll is quite amusing. And no not quite, every page in this thread has me tooling all 4 of you using your own evidence against you, my evidence and the evidence from Bloodrain, Sin and other LoZ fans who do not push fanon to the limit.The best your little group of trolls is for is spamming senseless pages of "zomg ganon soloz!" or at least what pretty much boils down to that, especially when you get trumped (every counter post 🙂)
Also, being the biggest troll of them all gives me a sort of authority on the subject, I know my own, y'know? Now get back under your bridge, this one's mine. And make me a sandwich, plebe.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I see no counter argument to intangibility, lightning time reflexes, 4.5 gigajoule strength, extreem durability, reality warping, island busting, or telekinesis. GG, I win.Also, being the biggest troll of them all gives me a sort of authority on the subject, I know my own, y'know? Now get back under your bridge, this one's mine. And make me a sandwich, plebe.
I bolded some lies that hold no canon evidence or things that have been countered by more than 1 person on this forum.
And now point out that intangibility is shared by several LoK forces and that unlike LoZ, a lot of LoK powers affect intangible targets, e.g. souls. And that island busting is off-screen and ungaugable in its time to cast.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Actually, Kain, the most threatening thing in LoK gets TK'd by Ganon or Zant and killed as he is helpless against TK.
Stop yourself at "tked by Ganon" as his faster reaction times allow him to mist/teleport to avoid or escape it making it useless. Kains counter would however work nicely on Ganon. Then take into account neither can harm him but he can do the same to them AND harm them...
His top TK feat iirc is moving Midna. You can reach and attempt to use Zants TK feats as Ganons but even then, its not that impressive. Chances are hes not going to do much of anything ,even if hes allowed to Tk and Kain or whoever he attempts to TK does not use intangbility or teleportation to escape.
It isn't reaching. Are you truly so daft you're going to ignore shit that was blatantly stated in game? Wait, you've been doing that for a long time now. Hmm...
Actually, his best feat is being more powerful than Midna who can quite easily TK a section of bridge using only one piece of the Fused Shadows. So hell, maybe Midna holds Kain in place while Link deals the death blow. Ganon doesn't even have to break a sweat.
Another amusing and ironic statement, you and the trollbridge team have no place claiming anyone "ignores shit"
Yeh, but being more powerful than midnas weight which is what he bested is nothing.
Yeh, and your ignoring again, all this "hold in place" is more likely with characters like Link who cant do much at all to escape it, unlike a host of Lok charactes who can go spiritual, instangible or teleport.
More powerful in what? from what ive seen its not TK hes stronger in.
Ofc he can, him and half of LoK can become intangible, teleport or move quick enough to avoid it, e.g. Midna/Ganons slow reactions trying to Tk someone they can hardly follow/see would make them helpless.
Also this works both ways....only I would wager LoK has more or at least better Tkers than TP.
Intangibility only helps to escape things that are tangible. Last time I checked, TK was not.
Kain's teleportation requires motions for the spell to be cast, motions he cannot complete while restrained.
Except LoZ is not completely helpless to TK. Link is protected, which I know you will ignore since there is no other way around it, so save the comment for somebody who cares. Ganon cannot be harmed by Kain, or anything in LoK, in any way at all anyway, and can simply TK back with a thought, or, with your worthless logic, become intangible to escape. 🙄
Zant is much of the same as Ganon. Oh, forgot to mention they both teleport faster than Kain does. By the way, how in the hell is their teleport "predictable?"
Jesus Christ, at least try to indicate what the hell you're responding to. Now I have to read through all my posts and compare the closest point you attempt to make. See, this is why I break up your posts. It's easy to read and everyone knows exactly which part I'm responding to, unlike that jumpled mess of insults I'm looking at right now. I'm just going to delete a few things here, and I'm just not going to repeat myself as much.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Sorry, I forgot this even excisted
You know, that was probably for the best. I find no nobility with the unlife you so rudely force on this unwilling thread's corpse.
No, magical light has shown to be able to remove darkness from the area. Therefore, this standard works with Lok as well.
Where? Show this to me. As of right now, the Life Force of the Gods is the only thing shown to remove twilight. Unless you have proof of LoK sorcery having the ability to banish darkness, it does not, in fact, have the ability to banish darkness or twilight.
How does having a resistance to it that normal twili do not have (not sure I have evidence of this) help her here?
Look at it this way: Midna's resistance to sunlight was overcome by the Life Force of the Gods. What evidence do you have that says Kain's resistence will not also be overcome?
I could have sworn youve claimed what Zant did to the soldiers "twilight" based on the fact twilight beasts were "apprently" spawned from them but regardless. Youve got your slow twilight that affects the realm and is too slow to be of use, or a predictable fog that normal soldiers can resist.
Nah. It's Dark Fog, which has the same effect as twilight but in a smaller area. Also, I don't know how many times I'm going to have to tell you that touching a stream and being inside a cloud are two very different things, and while hylian magic resistance can negate the small streams, the cloud is a bit much. It's been a while, so I'll refresh your memory.
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Prove he called the twilight to that area and that it did not re-apear after the light spirit was vanquished? the way I see it, is that that light spirit as you have said before is protecting the area from twilight that took a long cast time earlier on.
'k. Now, would you like me to count the number of spells Zant casts without moving?
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0:27, TK burst, Zant does not move.
0:34, Zant lowers his arm, which both lowers the spirit and brings in twilight.
0:54, TKs Midna, Zant does not move.
1:36, Red ball starts forming, Zant does not move.
1:47, TKs Link, Zant does not move.
1:48, detonates red ball, Zant does not move.
Now, explain to me why Zant needs to move in order to cast twilight when he is shown to not move for nearly all of these spells? Actually, he does move when he calls down twilight, so you even have that evidence you asked for.
Ime saying twilight has been called already, your making the claim that twilight is "washed away" and needs to be re-cast to come back to a region. I dont see Zant casting anything however.
As already shown, Zant does not need to move in order to cast. But, because you asked:
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0:4, "The Vessel of Light is full of tears, and light has returned to this area!" And then bam! twilight is gone. But what I don't understand is why you're making the claim twilight comes back at all, since that's worse for your side, even if they could get rid of it, it'd just come back.
Explain "twilight army", as I have not seen that term used in your vids, ive seen a few shadowy beasts, but thats all.
The army that happens when Shadow Beasts kill humans and convert them into more Shadow Beasts, as well as the animal, plants, and other creatures, such as humans (but not hylians), that become shadow beasts on contact with twilight. Coupled with their ability to revive, the Shadow Beasts will multiply faster than LoK can keep them down. In case you forgot:
0:40
Also, these:
Animals-
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Shadow_Kargarok#Twilight_Princess
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Shadow_Vermin
Plants-
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Shadow_Deku_Baba#Shadow_Deku_Baba
And there's also the Bulblins, which are affected by twilight just the same.
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Bulblin#Twilight_Princess
Really, Nosgoth is rather heavily outnumbered here. This is what they have to draw on:
http://legacyofkain.wikia.com/wiki/Category😄efiance_Enemies
I count 22, and that's being generous with the humans filling different roles. Compare Twilight Princess, with over 50 different enemy types.
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Category:Enemies_in_The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Twilight_Princess
Defiance? Defiance covers BO1 and 2 era's iirc, therefore theres an army of vampires. Because its by the end of Defiance that young Kain refuses the sacrifce and forms his vampire armies.
No, Defiance doesn't cover Blood Omen 2. It covers Blood Omen, and Kain does not have an army there, nor should Blood Omen stuff even be allowed. You can have the parts of Blood Omen shown in Defiance, but not Blood Omen itself.
Hes been slashed across the chest many times by the wraith blade. Blood omen 1, repel shield has a function, not feat, its feat/function is reflecting spells.
I've seen only one, and that one brought him to his knees. Show me the others. As for Repel, not only is that only for Young Kain, who should not be in this thread, it is a no limits fallacy. The Magic Armor's function is to make Link invulnerable to damage, which is the same exact thing.
Thats never stated that it only affects the living and pure...where does it say this? the field that covered a region warped entities together, so yes, it bends reality to some extent, fire does not rain from the skies either...so "reality" is blurred again. Its incredible that Kain can stand unharmed by a regional power that changed and warped both the living, inanimate AND weather....nothing in LoZ could survive this.
What happened to the barrier deciding that Kain was "twisted enough"? It is only shown to affect normal humans, and did not affect Dejoule, Bane, Anarcrothe, Malek, Vorador, or Kain, so he's not special. Only affects living things, perhaps. Kain wasn't even affected by the rain, despite having a weakness to fire. That's no reality warp. It's just a small transmutation effect. Not many things in Hyrule would even be affected by this, especially not twilight creatures. That is, if this was even usable.
I never said it was permanent did I? no....I think the twilight, as others have said is just the "twilight realm" layer that Zant has called down. Theres no reason to claim Zant cast something or called it back when we dont see it happen.
No reason to assume it came back, either. You're the one claiming it does, so why don't you prove it? I've shown you that Zant doesn't need gestures in order to cast.
😆 reaching...says the guy who is using one video that does not actually show a vampire being disintegrated in water in the time you belive Zant will kill a vampire in despite Raziel, actual canon and major plot events saying otherwise. "sigh"....water is like ACID to a vampire. Acid to a human does not burn them instantly to liquid...it takes time, time that would be multiplied on vampires to years (see Raziel) due to nigh instant regen.
I can't believe you're still ignoring video evidence. If you can't even accept that, I don't know how you believe anything.
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Ah youve misread it, it says it takes time for their "predatory natures" to adapt to the spectoral realm....nothing about it taking time for wraiths. Light spirits cant seem to do anything other than stop Zant from casting any twilight lol...
"Beware, Raziel. These wraiths are vampire spirits, fettered too long in the Spectral Realm. When their vampire natures adapt to this plane, they become eaters of souls. Do not allow these spirits to reinhabit their corpses..."
Once they've adapted, they become soul eaters. Which only happens when they've spent "too long" in the realm. There are no vampires here anyway.
No, already being evil and corrupted makes you immune to...becoming evil and corrupted. As you already are.
So being evil protects you from being transformed? Or possessed? That fact remains that Ganondorf has resistance to that stuff.
This reveals that the light spirits can seal twilight in physical form. I am aware that when the helmet is on her head, Midna has a lot of extra power, that does not prove it can harm Ganon when hes just holding the helmet.
Watch it again.
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1:58, "We sealed away the great magic these individuals had mastered."
Clearly not, because he did try, he did try and struggle it it did nothing to Kain who is vastly stronger.
It's nothing but PIS. There is no reason for Raziel to not stab Kain with the Wraith Blade, kick him, or fade to the spectral realm. Instead of doing that, he wiggles.
It didnt hit his clothes and if it did, this does not discount Kain being immune to thousands of tonnes of pressure. They were not "grazing hits" because they never grazed or damaged Kain at all. Your avoiding this but your not going to succeed, Kains immune to LoZ damage lol.
Because there's no evidence that Raziel even used his claws. He tried to punch Kain and basically missed, even if they made contact.
wtf? resting his arm? and you said I was reaching earlier....two enemies, one bloodlusted with rage are just resting are they? what are you going to claim next that their about to bring out the tea and biscuits?
I wouldn't be surprised if they did, there was so much stupidity in that scene. Raziel was just disappointing there.
Zant cant kill Kain with a single ability, and hes not fast enough. Weve seen his teleport, its predictable and Kain can react at under 0.2, Zant has nothing.
Kain has nothing. You've never proven that Kain has 0.2 reflexes, much less that Zant is predictable. Zant's teleport is faster than Kain's by several seconds.
Compare:
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0:47, less than a second.
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2:50, 3 seconds.
I think you need to, if you think 100+ tonnes rests on top of the lava unless your claim is that their fighting on something thats hollow?
Even if it is, it's still a few hundred tons.
weight and gravity are still in effect when pushing. Only then your fighting against friction at the same time.
Weight and gravity are pretty much the same thing. When pushing something, you aren't moving against gravity, either, so the object is effectively lighter.
Is this all you can do? state "yes but hes putting more!", all hes doing is prodding it, all this "putting a bit" is nothing compared to Link struggling with audiable evidence with blocks he lifts. Raziel can send it sliding along with ease.
Well, yes, considering that's all he's actually doing. All you seem to be able to do is claim it's a light tap when evidence shows him putting his whole body into it. I don't think TP Link ever lifted any blocks, but he does throw Dangoro with ease, and he's ridiculously heavy.
Neither of those swords match the wraith blade or Raziels strength. Ok you just ignored evidence, its the soul reaver afterwards. how long the Blood reaver takes to absorb Raziel as a whole is irrelevant.
2:25, the Wraith Blade completely fails to drain Moebius' soul. So niether of the things that make up the Soul Reaver are any good at their jobs.
OR, any tker Breaks Midnas head against a rock and kills her instantly.
Midna phases through the rock, if she does just TK crush anyone near her.
Youve not proven any durability at all...wheres the feats for this? surviving thousands of tonnes of presure?
Hot magma, cooled magma, volcano launch, ice break. What more do you want?
Not a single LoZ character can kill him, so....thats that idea foiled, it seems your arguments are getting worse as it goes along. Youve gone from providing an argument and some evidence to simply stating "anyone to come kill him!" BS....and now your claiming that he cant use more than 4 tentacles because he only used 4 in this vid? its biologically viable so yes he can. Theres no reason to belive, suggest he cannot. The Kain vs EG fight where he regens tentacles instantly has been shown to death.
Great argument there. You just failed to post any evidence for a claim, attacked me personally, and then strawmanned my points without actually refuting them.
1 second, and what gesture exactly? in SR 1 he does not:[video]
5:34
Theres no indication that Kain "has to" put his reaver away.
You mean when the scene transitioned to the spectral realm? That wasn't a teleport, and it's not even consistent.
Because you dont have any understanding of what a gameplay mechanic is, a regenerating bar that is a mechanic only seen in the gameplay is completly different to a power, weapon or ability characters can use in the game. Not every weapon or ability has to have a cutscene ot be canon however numerical values such as HP reductions based on strikes and charges on weapon use to limit players use of abilities need to have canon links. e.g. in DMC, Dantes DT is mentioned in the story and implied.
That's odd. You seem to be changing your stance a bit here. I recall you instantly dismissing Kain and Raziel's hit combos as non-canon as soon as I pointed out their toonforce nature. Now you're flipping backwards and saying that kind of thing is canon. Your example fails, too, because the devil trigger is part of the story, while the dimensional teleport is not. Dante can use it at any time, can you prove that Kain can as well? Kain's canon teleport overrides that little gameplay ability.
So your actually implying most of Kratos, Dantes powers and anything not in a cutscene in not canon to a game? 😆
That's what you kept saying; I just went along with it.
No its not, the MS has sat untouched through periods in the games inside temples (temples of time iirc) where Link has to pick it up. It has a lot of periods where its just sitting doing nothing. Show me the MS slicing through something proven to be physically durable please. The MS afaik is not part of an immutable timeline and be faced with destroying itself either...
In OoT, the Master Sword's time abilities cause a paradox with the Song of Storms, survives the timeline split both times, and at one point was sent back in time to before it was drawn, and averted the paradox there.
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8:30
Its not faster at all, its not faster than a couple of arrows in his chest, its not faster than a single energy attack killing him. Its not faster than any teleport, its slow and useless besides.
It's faster than Kain's teleport, and Zant doesn't need it to destroy anything on the LoK side.
Basedon feats, a light arrow can at best stun Ganon lol....who is far less durable than Kain or higher vmapires. other than that, its featless. Zants not fast, his teleports are decent but if hes going to be teleporting constantly then hes not going to be fighting, then hes as good as dead. As soon as he stops, any number of soldiers could kill him, his reactions are featless as well so hes not going to be able to react/teleport to any weapons.
Based on feats, Ganondorf is more durable than all of LoK combined. Zant is faster than Kain, as are his teleports, and he can immediately kill just about anything on the LoK side. No soldiers could take Zant out, he's taken impalement by Midna's hair for several seconds, and that's infinitely superior to any non-light arrow.
Latching, reaching and now spamming random points seem to be your thing...
Insults seem to be yours.
lol no they dont, because neither have evidence that they can be touched, infected or htat the powers of those items affect them. Youve yet to show Ganon holding a piece of the shadows, only the full helmet which did nothing.
What? Are you ignoring the evidence again? I've shown you Ganondorf holding the Fused Shadows, of which the helmet is a piece.
Practically instant? when were you counting from? those piecies spiraled her for seconds without end, not sure when it started. Then had to attach to her, this is a long time when your facing LoK teleporters and Tkers who would simply steal all the piecies lol with TK..
The moment they touch her, of course. She turns around fully transformed. No one on the LoK side has enough power to beat Midna's TK, nor do they have the resistance necessary to not be instantly transformed.
It is a canon outline better than a feat that can be argued/picked apart. You cant argue against a canon statement/description. They have a function, why would I show it affecting something above a normal human when until they show feats, all LoZ characters are below/equel to a normal human in resistance to it? they have no defence.
Fine, then, you can have Kain's statements be canon. Now show me them affecting anything more durable than a human or with any resistance at all. Hylian magic resistance beats this, as do the Light Spirits sealing the spells. Kain's powerless.
Thats not the canon description, your reading the "Dark Chronicle" view of its function within the gameplay.
So you admit that none of those were canon statements? Good job.
yeh, gameplay mechanics again? 🙄 your getting boring with trolling.
Please stop attacking me personally. If you can't refute the point, just say so.
😆 so now your claiming that Zant would be unstoppable if only he was not insane to cover the tracks and BS behind your "reality/creation" feats you claim. Despite no evidence saying he can create/warp anything as he wishes....this is getting ridiculous again.
I'm claiming he can do what was shown, and no more. You seem to think I said he can warp or create anything, which I did not. Stop strawmanning my points, please.
I dont know what it is, its a cutscene showing it floating in front of him. It could originate from the object itself but Links not touching it.
He's touching the aura, which is darkening his hands. And he still looked right into the mirror shard.
Clearly not, because then she would be levitating her tiny poundage of weight into the sky....shes using TK that has the potential to lift tonnes to lift her weight with only a portion of it. Because shes using the proportional TK to lift her wieght.
And it does nothing when she pits it against Ganondorf or Zant. All that TK, and she can't break free from either of them.
Clearly not otherwise he would not react fast enough during the dimentionalt teleport to attack between the 0.2 seconds he has. That and reacting to moebius/Raziel getting up. Yeh your ignoring durability and speed evidence "sigh".
I'm not ignoring this, I simply do not see the same thing you do, and see that Zant's dash is faster than Kain's is. I am, however, ignoring the dimensional teleport because it is gameplay, and thus, worthless according to you. Reacting t Raziel is not nearly as fast as you think it is.
No your argueing against revived by the EG Raziel, canon statements of how water affects vampires and I am looking at one vampire burning in acid, not dissolving.
Vampires do burn instantly, and nobody knows how acid actually works. You're ignoring my science lesson.
Impossible, he could not have missed the ledge as it was right beneath where his tentacles came through 🙄 reaching again...
Don't strawman. I did not say that Elder God missed, I said he failed to break the ledge when he hit it.
Yes because Raziels shown the ability and used it to retract his claws as his slashed and hit Kain...oh wait no he didnt...
No, he didn't. Because he clenched his fists.
No its not lol, a soldie in armour is extremely heavy, Midnas a few pounds at most.
Midna's TK > soldier.
Deserves to be ignored? imo most of your recent posts deserve to be ignored. Almost as if my unbreakable wall of arguments has toppled your resolve so that you simply make lazy posts and remarks such as "they will beats them!" or "it will be unaffective!" or something along those lines.
You wound me with your words. Really, why must you insult me so?
All of those things are faster than zero, which is Zants reaction time...a mad luntatic who prob would not even think of threats anyway so your talking BS and outside of canon by trying to claim Zant is thinking strategically and with sharpness as he dies from a random arrow...
Niether Kain nor Zant have any known canon reaction time, though Zant can react to Link jumping at him. Zant is durable enough to tank an arrow, and teleports and moves fast enough to avoid one. His instant twilight renders all soldiers and archers moot anyway, as does his TK. Kain gets sealed and incinerated by any light spirit.
No it does not, being inside a rock protects him from the damage as the rock takes the hit. The Goron inside was stuck helpless until freed, simple fact. The only impressive thing was taking that much heat. So good job, youve proven fire skills may not be so effective against them. Gorons get killed by normal vampires, unless Quanchi gives the Gorons a shield of rock to get stuck within to protect them, in which case Kain slices through and kills them.
Solids transfer energy pretty readily. Being inside a rock would not protect you, as anything that hits the rock, also hits you with the rock. It's like being in a car wreck without an airbag, so Gorons are still too damn durable for anything in LoK.
Ofc its related, because Dangoro cant move 600 pounds with his full weight. Therefore, normal Gorons have to be lighter. Deep places of hte world is pretty clear.
Not at all. That's only a minimum, and the actual value is much higher. In any case, the arena was also magnetic, so Link was literally attached to the floor.
Different tentacles in exactly the same place where the last ones connected to the EG? if your claiming that he can somehow call tentacles from across his vast form to any spot then thats as good as. Same with multiplying, if he can multiply as shown then he wouldnt rly even need to regen. Your reaching nad wasting time again, its no wonder these posts are so long with all the repeats i have to make from you ignoring evidence.
Again, I'm not ignoring evidence. You are just failing to present it. There is no evidence that the tentacles that the Elder God uses are not different tentacles, nor is there any evidence that they multiply. You have also failed to prove that Elder God has thousands of tentacles, much less that he can use them at once. If you have anything that proves your ridiculous claims, please post it, as I have not yet seen it.
based on feats, EG cannot harm gorons if he was using heat, other than that their helpless to break out of rock and have no feats thus far of durability. They get crumbled into dust. Enough pain to drop the shield? what makes you think they can even damage tentacles that can break through tonnes of rock like paper? when they cant even break from small stone despite it being weakend and heated...?
No, based on feats (i.e: Elder God failing to break a small ledge, and Gorons having no problems with volcanic eruptions), the Elder God cannot harm Gorons in any way. While Gorons can simply roll into balls an either grind away or ram Elder God at high speeds, allowing Link, Ganondorf, Zant, Midna, Zelda, or the light spirits to destroy his eye.
So, to summarize:
All of the LoK side gets their magic sealed by the light spirits, while Kain is incinerated by them. At the same time, Zant lays down twilight over the entire battlefield, turning the animals, plants, and LoK humans into shadow beasts or spirits. Raziel is destroyed by Ganondorf or Midna, while most everyone else is overrun by shadow beasts. The Gorons distract Elder God, seeing as he can't kill them, while Link or Zelda plunges the Master Sword/fires a Light Arrow into his eye, thus killing him. And thus Hyrule wins.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Tele-kinetic force, kinetic energy, potential energy is physical by all means and purpose. In Tk's practical case, its simply like grabbing someone only using your mind instead of hands, instangbility/teleport avoids grasping.
Yeh, a few lies is all you can come up with? maybe I will say the same, Kain is protected! oh and so is Raziel immune to TK! maybe like you ill spam that regadless of argument. Yeh and ill reverse that as well, Kain and Raziel cant be harmed by anything in LoZ. Argue, dont troll.
Originally posted by The Scenario
You can see it, ime bored of your sad little games. And no, he did not miss, stop reaching.
Yeh, I would however be surprised if you made a real argument and accepted video evidence instead of spamming your own delusions on the scene and claiming PIS on things you dont like, we can all do that.
yes i have, many times, to you, to bloodrain (who also did a calculation that was more or less the same as mine).
Nice, you chose one where we dont see Zant cast the teleport in the first place, only phase in. Which took just under a second, unlike Kain who just appears, does not phase in vulnerable.
Also where the hell are yu counting from? from 2:50-:51, Kain has turned into light and vanished. So thats only about a second, not 3. And he appears more instantly than Zant, who sort of warps in at 2:56.
Clearly not, as it would not float, this has, once again been argued by a few people. lava does not hold hundreds of tonnes on its surface...
Yes you are, gravity is still pulling the object, even if its not off the ground. Then add friction and youll find pulling/pushing something thats hundreds of tonnes (friction would be enormous) is damn hard, just as if not harder than holding it up.
Since when his arms and his upper back become his whole body? regardless he does it in seconds and with ease. Dangoro is under 600 pounds.
That form of the blade is not supposed to, as it is purified. It purified moebius' sight.
lol, she cant. Youve shown her go through a few bars and you now assume shes got hte ability to react (no reaction feats) to and go intangible before her heads dashed along the ground? nah...go find some feats please.
I dont know, something actually physically hitting the Goron thats impressive.
Yes it is, Kain teleports from the room, in the same way he does throughout the scene and in the gameplay. The spectoral realm does not come until later. Both this teleport and the other are faster than Zant who all you can seem to show me, is the last part of his tleeport which is obvious.
Animations of soldiers surviving slashes is non canon gameplay mechanic, just like a recharging bar for the reaver spells. Canon statements and static objects like the Dimention emblem and the skill it gives the player are canon. No stance was changed, just your lack of understanding.
But it never came face to face with itself in an immutable timeline. Come on, show me it physically taking a lot of damage without a scratch plz. Kains blade has taken centuries/millenia of use and has been impaled through solid rocks and people in armour without a moments stop or scratch to the blade.
Baseless statement, based on feats Kain can take anything in LoZ, while Ganon has at best spiritually been hit by falling rubble from Midnas attack, and thats ambigious....prove it, show me Midnas hairs power, Zant taking it and Zant being fine afterwards.
Show me the insult? you feeling all hurty inside does make it an insult.
The full and completed and in this case powerless fused shadows has corrupted whom?
Originally posted by The Scenario
Wrong, it takes ages for them to circle and the magic to finish, whats she hoping of achiveing in this state anyway?
Dont need to until LoZ have shown resistance to mind control, soul powers etc
re-read they are canon.
re-read I didnt attack you.
He can create illusions from places either of them have been.
No magic or force touches link and furthermore, no reflection is even in the mirror.
No they dont burn instantly, and we know how acid works, it corrodes what it touches but it takes time, even on a frail human body, vampires are not frail and have a super fast regen.
You did say he missed it because you claimed the ledge was not a piece he struck, despite it having to be for him to send his tentacles past Raziel.
Wrong, YouTube video, claws were fully open. Please watch evidence I show you for once instead of making up your own mind on what you think should have happened to help you collapsing arguments.
Thats great if it was important, midnas TK is not in this case.
Ofc dimentioanl port is canon, as is him reacting to Raziel who is faster than any vampire, which is canonically faster than any human. Funny becaus hes not got an instant twilight, and light spirits are notihng but beacons of twilight protection for normal soldiers in the LoK army (which may resist it like TP soldiers do anyway).
lol, keep spamming that if you like. Ill spam "LoK are all immune to LoZ powers", ofc I still have the evidence on my side ot support me so its not as bad as your spam of "gorons are resistant" despite being weakn and helplessly protected inside slabs of rock.
Evidnece does not have to back up a "negative argument" such as your claim that the tentacles are "not new ones".
Based on feats, EG smashing tonnes of rock>>featless Gorons who are trapped and protected inside slabs of rock far weaker and smaller. His eye? ive already shown hes got thousands of them, hes got eyes all over his body. I like how one minute you use gameplay weaknesses and tactics only to talk against them the next....none of the LoZ team can do so much as tickle the EG.
To summerise your plans fall flat, becaause the light spirits have not shown able to yet, only a random statement that does not actually say anything or show naything about them doing it. They cant incinerate anything, Vamps are immune, tehy may incinerate twilight forces however. Zant cant lay down twilight because hes dead from an arrow, it takes too long to do anyway, 40 seconds+. Shadow beasts are not as numerous as the Sarfan/Vampires using light powers to kill them all in seconds. The reality warping, regional sphere that comes from the 3 Circle members eliminate hyrule by themselves.
The few Gorons that they are (they have not been said to be as an army afahs) get tossed or crushed by the EG, along with most of hyrule (thats 2 things so far that can solo Hyrule based on evidence). And Kain, with all his powers can solo hyrule, is too durable to be harmed and does vast damage both magical, spiritual and physical (3 things can solo now).
Hyrules slow speeds, cast times, weak little bodies and lack of magical protection, certainly of any variety fail them at every turn. As does their lack of tactical manouver, disciplined forces (sarafan, vampires and maybe Hylden). This thread is spite in favour of LoK.
Oh, and if you ignore evidence and posts again I think ill just pick a single element of your points at a time in my posts instead of wasting time replying to it all. Just so your warned, ime tired of reposting repeats that will get ignored. This should force you to provide evidence and back up a particulour point.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Tele-[b]kinetic force, kinetic energy, potential energy is physical by all means and purpose. In Tk's practical case, its simply like grabbing someone only using your mind instead of hands, instangbility/teleport avoids grasping.Yeh, a few lies is all you can come up with? maybe I will say the same, Kain is protected! oh and so is Raziel immune to TK! maybe like you ill spam that regadless of argument. Yeh and ill reverse that as well, Kain and Raziel cant be harmed by anything in LoZ. Argue, dont troll. [/B]
I see. So what does it look like? It's physical, so it must have a form of some sort, correct?
And again, assuming Kain could escape TK by becoming intangible, where does this get him? As soon as he was capable of being grabbed again, he gets grabbed. Or by this time someone else is near him and stabs him for the kill as soon as he is tangible.
Dear lord, you are daft. It has been proven before, BT. Prove to me you're worth finding the quote for again and I'll track it down.
For me to "spam" something regardless of an argument against it, there would have to be an argument against it that mattered, which you have never provided.
I'll pull the same trick you seem to think is clever. Argue, don't troll.
Do yourself a personal favor and not antagonize Scenario. He still indulges your daft attempts at logic.
Not sure it has to look like anything. Its just physical force working on an area.
Or he teleports/punches the Tker and kills them in a strike, he can do this to any of them.
Ha, the only thing thats been proven is that your a troll along with most of your group and that you will ignore/stretch evidence when it does not work in your favour. That and LoK wins ofc anyway.
Oh but I do argue, not only that, I debate which is something your Trollsquad should learn to adapt to if you want to create any convincing "argument" for your funny little fanon. Better yet, use the canon instead.
If he gets antagonised its because hes goofed. Perhaps I was wrong to think him a debator, OR he works better with smaller posts. Not that you have any part to play between us, your just an annoying troll I decide to reply to when I see fit 🙂
Originally posted by Burning thought
Not sure it has to look like anything. Its just physical force working on an area.Or he teleports/punches the Tker and kills them in a strike, he can do this to any of them.
Ha, the only thing thats been proven is that your a troll along with most of your group and that you will ignore/stretch evidence when it does not work in your favour. That and LoK wins ofc anyway.
Oh but I do argue, not only that, I debate which is something your Trollsquad should learn to adapt to if you want to create any convincing "argument" for your funny little fanon. Better yet, use the canon instead.
If he gets antagonised its because hes goofed. Perhaps I was wrong to think him a debator, OR he works better with smaller posts. Not that you have any part to play between us, your just an annoying troll I decide to reply to when I see fit 🙂
Force is not tangible, last I checked. It can affect the physical world because it is applied by something that is physical, usually. It does not have a physical form.
Except he can't, his quickest port requires a motion that Ganondorf does not require to TK. So he TKs while Kain is in motion, and halts the technique. Now Kain is helpless until, using your pathetic attempt at logic, he becomes intangible to escape something that isn't tangible anyway.
So I notice you didn't actually acknowledge anything. You are not one to talk about stretching, either. Does "infinite energy and magic manipulation" sound familiar to you?
Neat, I'm in charge of the LLLC now. ScreamPaste has been overthrown. Oh, but there is that "fanon" word again. If you would like me to get some fan fiction and use it I could get some fan fiction and use it. If I'm going to be accused of something I haven't done and am already guilty despite there being no evidence of such a thing, I might as well just do it, right?
So even you don't even think you are worth being nice to? Oh, well that makes two of us.
Now then, would you like to know something really funny? If I cared to learn about LoK I'm sure I'd find that your head is so far up your ass you can still see your last meal.