You just completely ignored my first post. Thus, I am forced to assume you have conceded the following points, which were contained in that post:
-LoK magic being unable to disperse twilight.
-Kain's lack of resistence to Life Force of the Gods.
-Hylian magic resistance.
-Zant's instant twilight and ability to cast without moving.
-The fact that Hyrule outnumbers LoK by a large margin.
-Dark Eden being useless
-Kain's weakness to water
-Light Spirit's ability to seal away magic.
Anyway, now for the rest of it.
Originally posted by Burning thought
[B]You can see it, ime bored of your sad little games. And no, he did not miss, stop reaching.
Seriously, there's no need for insults. Why you are unable to debate without insulting people I will likely never know. Also, please stop with the strawman; I did not say that Raziel missed, I said that his fists barely touched Kain.
Yeh, I would however be surprised if you made a real argument and accepted video evidence instead of spamming your own delusions on the scene and claiming PIS on things you dont like, we can all do that.
Alas, more insults. Looking and listening to that scene, I find no evidence that Raziel was using his claws. The sounds more resembled punches than slashes, after all. I'm just saying that I find the fact that Raziel didn't use his full powers or even the Wraith Blade a bit disappointing. I thought he was smarter than that.
yes i have, many times, to you, to bloodrain (who also did a calculation that was more or less the same as mine).
I saw Bloodrain calculate the dimensional teleport. What I did not see is Bloodrain calculate anything canon to indicate that Kain had any abnormal reaction time.
Nice, you chose one where we dont see Zant cast the teleport in the first place, only phase in. Which took just under a second, unlike Kain who just appears, does not phase in vulnerable.
Is that all you wanted?
YouTube video
0:29, including some hefty time where Zant is just gone, and couldn't be attacked at all. And, surprise surprise, Zant can still cast without moving.
Also where the hell are yu counting from? from 2:50-:51, Kain has turned into light and vanished. So thats only about a second, not 3. And he appears more instantly than Zant, who sort of warps in at 2:56.
I counted from when the glow began at 2:50, to when Kain turned to light at 2:51-2:52, and then finally disappears at 2:53. Then, beginning at roughly 2:54, the glow begins again, and Kain finally apears at 2:57. Both times take roughly 3 seconds, for a total of 6 seconds for a full teleport.
Clearly not, as it would not float, this has, once again been argued by a few people. lava does not hold hundreds of tonnes on its surface...
Water holds hundreds of tons on its surface; ever heard of a battleship? Lava is thousands of times thicker than water.
Yes you are, gravity is still pulling the object, even if its not off the ground. Then add friction and youll find pulling/pushing something thats hundreds of tonnes (friction would be enormous) is damn hard, just as if not harder than holding it up.
No, you're not fighting directly against gravity unless you're going straight up. Gravity is a downward force (relatively, of course), so moving to the side is not directly against it. This doesn't really matter, anyway, since we know Raziel is strong since he already lifted it.
Since when his arms and his upper back become his whole body? regardless he does it in seconds and with ease. Dangoro is under 600 pounds.
You use your whole body to lift things, and Raziel's kick used his whole body. Dangoro is in no way under 600 lbs. How did you reach this conclusion?
That form of the blade is not supposed to, as it is purified. It purified moebius' sight.
That form of the blade is Raziel's soul, the part of the Soul Reaver that consumes souls. It became that way when the Soul Reaver first broke.
lol, she cant. Youve shown her go through a few bars and you now assume shes got hte ability to react (no reaction feats) to and go intangible before her heads dashed along the ground? nah...go find some feats please.
In this respect, Midna is exactly the same as Kain. Kain has never gone through anything more than bars, nor does he have any cutscene evidence of fast reaction time. Kain's TK is also quite slow, as you've shown me. He picked a soldier up, held him for a second, and then threw him. Even the soldier could react to it, though he couldn't do anything, unlike Midna, who could just crush Kain because her TK is so much stronger.
I dont know, something actually physically hitting the Goron thats impressive.
There is nothing in LoK more impressive than a few megatons of angry volcano. What I have already shown is sufficient.
Yes it is, Kain teleports from the room, in the same way he does throughout the scene and in the gameplay. The spectoral realm does not come until later. Both this teleport and the other are faster than Zant who all you can seem to show me, is the last part of his tleeport which is obvious.
In the gameplay, Kain makes a gesture and holds up the Reaver, and stands there for long enough for Raziel to hit him. In the scene, Kain takes several seconds fading away while the wraith blade appears and it shifts to the spectral realm.
Animations of soldiers surviving slashes is non canon gameplay mechanic, just like a recharging bar for the reaver spells. Canon statements and static objects like the Dimention emblem and the skill it gives the player are canon. No stance was changed, just your lack of understanding.
Canon statements like Kain saying he hits soldier to the ground and they bounce? The Dimension emblem is canon, sure, but there is no indication that it gives any skill.
But it never came face to face with itself in an immutable timeline. Come on, show me it physically taking a lot of damage without a scratch plz. Kains blade has taken centuries/millenia of use and has been impaled through solid rocks and people in armour without a moments stop or scratch to the blade.
Link repeatedly stabs the Master Sword into the ground, through armor, and slams it into the ground hard enough to make a shockwave. Has the Reaver ever been subjected to energy attacks?
Baseless statement, based on feats Kain can take anything in LoZ, while Ganon has at best spiritually been hit by falling rubble from Midnas attack, and thats ambigious....prove it, show me Midnas hairs power, Zant taking it and Zant being fine afterwards.
Baseless statement. There is no evidence that suggests Kain can take a single flaming arrow, sword strike, Master Sword strike, or basically anything else. Ganondorf can keep fighting after his body is destroyed, and even before then laughs at swords like they're nothing, and can just make another body.
Now, when did I say Zant was fine after he was hit? No, that killed him, but he took it for several seconds before exploding, and Ganondorf can revive him in any case. It'll take more than an arrow to replicate three strands of Midna's hair + the power of the Fused Shadows.
Show me the insult? you feeling all hurty inside does make it an insult.
Completely baseless accusations of spamming and trolling, calling me sad and delusional, repeatedly saying my arguments are pathetic or lies, and generally being quite rude, and that's in only the posts on the last page. You've even said to MooCow that you don't consider me a real debator. I'm trying to debate here, not trade insults with you, though at no point have I actually attacked you back.
The full and completed and in this case powerless fused shadows has corrupted whom?
Diababa, Fyrus (Darbus), and Morpheel.
Wrong, it takes ages for them to circle and the magic to finish, whats she hoping of achiveing in this state anyway?
You're talking about from 5:07 to 5:35? Yeah, that's not even close to how fast the transformation is. Check out 0:06 to 0:16, though the actual transformation can be heard to have occured at 0:11, much faster. So it's about 5 seconds instead of the 30 you were reaching for. In any case, Midna in that form could crush most of LoK, though she doesns't really need it. Actually, since that same video shows that Midna can still teleport others while she spins the Fused Shadows, she can just BFR anyone trying to attack her until she's done.