Classic Mangog vs. Tyrant (depowered)

Started by Sundipped27 pages
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Doom-level feat. On both accounts. Food for thought.

Except Tyrant can obtain/exist/maintain infinitely at these levels without plot device.
Concession accepted he's Galactus level.

^ I do concede Doom can be on Galactus level. He has been twice, after all.

De-Powered Tyrant didn't seem to require prep or third-party tech to consume and borg Galactus' tech. It seemed to be a natural part of his own being, to do that.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Doom-level feat. On both accounts. Food for thought.
Originally posted by Sundipped
Except Tyrant can obtain/exist/maintain infinitely at these levels without plot device.
Concession accepted he's Galactus level.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I do concede Doom can be on Galactus level. He has been twice, after all.

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Originally posted by janus77
De-Powered Tyrant didn't seem to require prep or third-party tech to consume and borg Galactus' tech. It seemed to be a natural part of his own being, to do that.

Not often we agree but 👆

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I do concede Doom can be on Galactus level. He has been twice, after all.

Key words "can be". No can with Tyrant. "Is" accurately describes his power in relation to Big G. No comparison.

^ DP Tyrant is, quite literally, a red-headed stepchild when compared to Galactus. Barring convenient plot device powers that raised him to the level of a simple Power Cosmic Siphon Harness, this ought to be clear. Example: their respective battles against Thanos.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Key words "can be". No can with Tyrant. "Is" accurately describes his power in relation to Big G. No comparison.
You will realize very quickly onedumbgo will ignore whatever evidence best suits his case. He will go so far as to even compare Doom to Tyrant. It's absurd.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ DP Tyrant is, quite literally, a red-headed stepchild when compared to Galactus. Barring convenient plot device powers that raised him to the level of a simple Power Cosmic Siphon Harness, this ought to be clear. Example: their respective battles against Thanos.

I wouldn't say stepchild. More like biological son who (before he was shown to be a cosmic energy leech), punked dad then kicked the crap outta him + Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You will realize very quickly onedumbgo will ignore whatever evidence best suits his case. He will go so far as to even compare Doom to Tyrant. It's absurd.

Just 1 of the many personalities that makes kmc a fun place to be. 😎
I, unlike so many others can't get all bent outta shape over the stuff that takes place on this forum. I see it as amusement.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You will realize very quickly onedumbgo will ignore whatever evidence best suits his case. He will go so far as to even compare Doom to Tyrant. It's absurd.
I think you are misunderstanding the comparison. AND what ODG is saying.

To imply that Tyrant is ALWAYS on the same level as Galactus, is simply untrue. Plain and simple. Any of you, with even an inkling of honesty, will have to admit these. (Please God, let them admit this, so I don't have to keep finding and posting scans that get ignored and unappreciated)
Anyway. Of course, Tyrant has inherent Galactus-like affinity to Galactus tech.
It's what he is made out of. But, he was never made to be as powerful as he showed himself to be after a well-planned-out drain, (a la Dr. Doom/Beyonder, etc.), of Galactus power.
And, in other confrontations, Tyrant has been shown in situations that throw so many variables into the mix, it is just plain criminal to claim, for certain, that his natural state is on par with Galactus. He drains power from Galactus-tech, planets throughout the universe, little pretty balls of life energy, blah, blah, blah.
I think Tyrant is just drunk, bragging and bitter most of the time!😉
Though powerful, he has not shown a regular state of galaxy-crushing power, and has not been seen to use galaxy-crushing power on the foes I have seen him battle with.
He is, as was explained a couple time before me, a power siphon-entity. He was not created with Galactus-level power. Galactus never meant for Tyrant to be an equal in power.

Originally posted by Horrificus
I think you are misunderstanding the comparison. AND what ODG is saying.

To imply that Tyrant is ALWAYS on the same level as Galactus, is simply untrue. Plain and simple. Any of you, with even an inkling of honesty, will have to admit these. (Please God, let them admit this, so I don't have to keep finding and posting scans that get ignored and unappreciated)
Anyway. Of course, Tyrant has inherent Galactus-like affinity to Galactus tech.
It's what he is made out of. But, he was never made to be as powerful as he showed himself to be after a well-planned-out drain, (a la Dr. Doom/Beyonder, etc.), of Galactus power.
And, in other confrontations, Tyrant has been shown in situations that throw so many variables into the mix, it is just plain criminal to claim, for certain, that his natural state is on par with Galactus. He drains power from Galactus-tech, planets throughout the universe, little pretty balls of life energy, blah, blah, blah.
I think Tyrant is just drunk, bragging and bitter most of the time!😉
Though powerful, he has not shown a regular state of galaxy-crushing power, and has not been seen to use galaxy-crushing power on the foes I have seen him battle with.
He is, as was explained a couple time before me, a power siphon-entity. He was not created with Galactus-level power. Galactus never meant for Tyrant to be an equal in power.

You aren't getting it. Tyrant wasn't always created or portrayed as having the ability to absorb his bse energy. From Tyrant's first confrontation with Galactus he was a threat to him. Galactus usually ignores beings who are very powerful but with Tyrant he actually backed down.

In combat Tyrant was shown powerful enough to best a well fed Galactus. Like it or not he's on another level than Mangog.

Originally posted by Sundipped
I wouldn't say stepchild. More like biological son who (before he was shown to be a cosmic energy leech), punked dad then kicked the crap outta him + Thanos.

More like the ADHD biological son whom waited for dad to drive the 1972 Plymouth station wagon to the store, then snuck in dad's room, stole the keys to dad's Porche, went out, found dad on the highway and raced against him. naughty Then went and told everybody how his dad backed down from the challenge. nosweat

Originally posted by Sundipped
I wouldn't say stepchild. More like biological son who (before he was shown to be a cosmic energy leech), punked dad then kicked the crap outta him + Thanos.
I don't recall Tyrant punking Galactus before he was revealed to be conveniently capable of absorbing Galactus' attacks. Either way, Doom's taken Galactus' power twice. DP Tyrant better make a comeback to tie the score here.

Beating on Thanos like a b1tch is impressive. One-shotting Thanos is more impressive. Yeah. It's pretty obvious:

DP Tyrant <<<< Galactus.

Originally posted by Horrificus
More like the ADHD biological son whom waited for dad to drive the 1972 Plymouth station wagon to the store, then snuck in dad's room, stole the keys to dad's Porche, went out, found dad on the highway and raced against him. naughty Then went and told everybody how his dad backed down from the challenge. nosweat

Ok now compare that Porsche to Morg. Dad said give me my keys back. Tyrant said phuck you. And if I wreck it you better buy me another one. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
You aren't getting it. Tyrant wasn't always created or portrayed as having the ability to absorb his bse energy. From Tyrant's first confrontation with Galactus he was a threat to him. Galactus usually ignores beings who are very powerful but with Tyrant he actually backed down.

In combat Tyrant was shown powerful enough to best a well fed Galactus. Like it or not he's on another level than Mangog.

OK. So, for the record, you are stating that Tyrant is always at the level of Galactus.
You are stating that this is his normal power level.
You are saying that Tyrant, siphoning Galactus power to attain that level of power is a totally different feat from Doom draining the Beyonder or Galactus, for examples.

So, it's YOU who aren't getting it. We are trying to establish a "base power level" for Tyrant. And, you are using an instance where a planned sabotage/drain was used to attain a level of power that was not his natural state.

At this moment, is his power source the same as when he confronted Galactus? And, if not, why is he still being described as the power source is the same?

Originally posted by Sundipped
Ok now compare that Porsche to Morg. Dad said give me my keys back. Tyrant said phuck you. And if I wreck it you better buy me another one. 😂
😉 Well, without dad's stuff, he's still just a little sh** with discipline problems and terrible hair.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't recall Tyrant punking Galactus before he was revealed to be conveniently capable of absorbing Galactus' attacks. Either way, Doom's taken Galactus' power twice. DP Tyrant better make a comeback to tie the score here.

Beating on Thanos like a b1tch is impressive. One-shotting Thanos is more impressive. Yeah. It's pretty obvious:

DP Tyrant <<<< Galactus.

Punked him when he demanded Morg back.

Let's see Doom best Thanos and a team of high heralds minus plot device. Tyrant has no need to upsurp power already within him. Victor, catch up to the point where you can walk around & be labeled certified skyfather level indefinitely.

Galactus may be a little higher power wise but the margin is minimal.

Originally posted by Horrificus
😉 Well, without dad's stuff, he's still just a little sh** with discipline problems and terrible hair.

Without dads stuff he would've just taken someone else's. I agree about the hair though. Dad even gave him a haircut (pulled his cable locks off) but he didn't care & said it'll grow back. 🙂

Originally posted by Sundipped
Punked him when he demanded Morg back.

Let's see Doom best Thanos and a team of high heralds minus plot device. Tyrant has no need to upsurp power already within him. Victor, catch up to the point where you can walk around & be labeled certified skyfather level indefinitely.

Galactus may be a little higher power wise but the margin is minimal.

Punked him how exactly? Don't be shy now. You're obviously committed.

Doom performing on a higher level than DP Tyrant shouldn't pain your butt. It's not my fault that you keep trying to elevate DP Tyrant to Galactus' level because of DP Tyrant's plot device power that essentially equated him to a Power Cosmic Siphon Harness.

DP Tyrant has no independent feats beyond absorbing Galactus' attacks and using his technopathy that even come close to Galactus' independent feats. Don't be retarded. Let me know when DP Tyrant one-shots Thanos with a single handblast, teleports an entire galaxy, performs surgery on Eternity, sweeps a galaxy clean, no sells multiple Negabombs, etc.