Galactus with the Ultimate Nullifier vs Lucifer Morningstar

Originally posted by quanchi112
He himself was beaten though. He never bested him until he was depowered. He's that much more powerful he can take him out with a mere gesture. This is carey's series try and stay with me.

No one had infinite power and one had infinite will. You didn't read it at all.

So he was beaten by a canon fodder one then because he hesitated.

Nope, Lucifer was not beaten by Michael in individual combat. Re-read the issues until it is pounded into your impervious skull.

So Michael doesn't have infinite power but Lucifer has infinite will? Should I take that as Lucifer > Michael? 😮‍💨

Sandalphon was never classified as cannon fodder. He was clever enough to manufacture the Demiurgos within Elaine. You can't even remember his name, and you tell me I need to read the books. 🤣

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Nope, Lucifer was not beaten by Michael in individual combat. Re-read the issues until it is pounded into your impervious skull.

So Michael doesn't have infinite power but Lucifer has infinite will? Should I take that as Lucifer > Michael? 😮‍💨

Sandalphon was never classified as cannon fodder. He was clever enough to manufacture the Demiurgos within Elaine. You can't even remember his name, and you tell me I need to read the books. 🤣

Forgot the coma. Michael has the power whereas his brother has the will. Do you dispute this?

He was defeated easily and the only reason he defeated him was because his back was turned but this has nothing to do with his durability.

Lucifers will is what burned Presences name on every atom in creation. Sounds like a big power act to me..

Lucifer did respect Michaels power though.

But both should be well above Galactus's level, or an incomplete Infinity Gauntlet.

Dream of the Endless claims Lucifer is the most powerful Angel

Originally posted by cdtm
Lucifers will is what burned Presences name on every atom in creation. Sounds like a big power act to me..

Lucifer did respect Michaels power though.

But both should be well above Galactus's level, or an incomplete Infinity Gauntlet.

Originally posted by ares834
Dream of the Endless claims Lucifer is the most powerful Angel

For all we know, that spear could've been as powerful as The Spear of Destiny, a weapon powerful enough to wreck just about anyone.

Plus he's tanked Spectres best shot.

And yes, Michael wasn't in concept yet. This still proves Lucifer is one of the most powerful beings in existence, surpassed only by Presence and possibly Michael. Can't see the UN nullifying either brother, anymore than it will nullify LT or Thanos with the HOTU or IG...

Originally posted by cdtm
For all we know, that spear could've been as powerful as The Spear of Destiny, a weapon powerful enough to wreck just about anyone.

Plus he's tanked Spectres best shot.

And yes, Michael wasn't in concept yet. This still proves Lucifer is one of the most powerful beings in existence, surpassed only by Presence and possibly Michael. Can't see the UN nullifying either brother, anymore than it will nullify LT or Thanos with the HOTU or IG...

What happens in the dcu isn't canon to vertigo. There also is inconsistent writing so it varies dramatically.

Nah. This is vertigo version only.

These guys aren't close to the Lt. Nowhere near it and durability that's laughable.

Pretty sure it was Gabriel and Lucifer that was fighting in the battle, while Michael was busy leading the armies of Heaven against Lucifers forces.

Lucifer.

Originally posted by kevdude
Pretty sure it was Gabriel and Lucifer that was fighting in the battle, while Michael was busy leading the armies of Heaven against Lucifers forces.

Lucifer.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So now we assume because it hurt him it was a special spear when the writer didn't portray it that way at all. Wow.

What happens in the dcu isn't canon to vertigo. There also is inconsistent writing so it varies dramatically.

Nah. This is vertigo version only.

These guys aren't close to the Lt. Nowhere near it and durability that's laughable.

Ostranders Spectre was written under mainstream dcu, and Lucifer, Michael, Remiel, and Duma all made appearances.

And yes, since these weren't terrestrial weapons, I think it's a fair assumption that the spear wasn't just a spear.

And you're ignoring his tanking Spectres best attacks.

Originally posted by cdtm
Ostranders Spectre was written under mainstream dcu, and Lucifer, Michael, Remiel, and Duma all made appearances.

And yes, since these weren't terrestrial weapons, I think it's a fair assumption that the spear wasn't just a spear.

And you're ignoring his tanking Spectres best attacks.

So, is it your position that Michael was hurt by a normal spear, then? No different than anything what the Spartans used?

Originally posted by cdtm
So, is it your position that Michael was hurt by a normal spear, then? No different than anything what the Spartans used?

It wasn't mentioned that those spears were magical or cosmically powered. They were just regular spears as far as we are concerned.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
It wasn't mentioned that those spears were magical or cosmically powered. They were just regular spears as far as we are concerned.

And the basanos are just tarrot cards.

Sure, lets just ignore weapons like the thrice named sword, or ignore the fact it'd be totally retarded to attack Lucifer with normal spears. Or that one of those "normal swords" killed a fetus demon that ate old gods..

Or the fact they're not even made from anything on Earth.

Normal spears, yup.

There should be laws preventing Philistines from reading works like Lucifer and Sandman.

Originally posted by cdtm
So, is it your position that Michael was hurt by a normal spear, then? No different than anything what the Spartans used?

Quan's my favorite poster. I swear to god.

Lucifer laughs at the ultimate nullifier, destroys Galactus and then uses than energy to shape himself an universe.

And if TheTyrant and quanchi wants to play the "Wasn't specifically stated" game:

I guess this proves Thanos has low durability against having his heart ripped out his chest, since no specific reason is stated for Drax having special "anti Thanos powers", right?

I mean, I've always assumed Drax evolved special powers to weaken Thanos specifically, but going by their logic we shouldn't make assumptions..

Originally posted by cdtm
but going by their logic we shouldn't make assumptions..