Thanos with infinity gems vs Anti monitor

Started by Black bolt z23 pages

Originally posted by Omega Vision
If an IG user was sucker-punched by the UN then he'd be Nullified. How do I know this? Well because the highest feat the IG has is supplanting Eternity (616 Eternity) and the UN Nullified the summation of ALL Eternities. At the height of its power the IG is just essentially=to Eternity which the UN can nullify.
IG is well above eternity and almost IG level.I have stated how I think thanos could or any IG user could tank a UN blast but that is just speculation and how it really works can be argued.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
IG is well above eternity and almost IG level.

This makes no sense.

I like how you left my post alone... LOL

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I like how you left my post alone... LOL

Sorry, page bump, lol.

Ahem:

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Jesus Christ are you this dense really. IG is essentially = to Eternity WTF. I hope you're kidding. You are = to something that you WTF pwn with the greatest of ease. Put the crack pipe down buddy.

He didn't WTF Pwn Eternity, I know because you're a Thanos fanboy you like to think he did but the fight took place off panel and from Eternity's quotes it can be assumed that what it amounted to was a battle of wills, which of course ended with Thanos's supreme will triumphing. There's no reason to presume Thanos was vastly more powerful, especially since his greatest triumph was really just taking Eternity's place. He replaced Eternity of the 616 Universe, that's it. The Living Tribunal didn't intervene because Thanos was essentially just filling Eternity's shoes.

I'll put down the crack pipe when you stop giving your lifesized (and anatomically correct) Thanos statue head. 😉

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Sorry, page bump, lol.

Ahem:

He didn't WTF Pwn Eternity, I know because you're a Thanos fanboy you like to think he did but the fight took place off panel and from Eternity's quotes it can be assumed that what it amounted to was a battle of wills, which of course ended with Thanos's supreme will triumphing. There's no reason to presume Thanos was vastly more powerful, especially since his greatest triumph was really just taking Eternity's place. He replaced Eternity of the 616 Universe, that's it. The Living Tribunal didn't intervene because Thanos was essentially just filling Eternity's shoes.

I'll put down the crack pipe when you stop giving your lifesized (and anatomically correct) Thanos statue head. 😉

Okay so you didn't really read the story then. The plain presentation of the story made it very clear the ease in which Thanos accomplished replacing Eternity. I have no idea where you get this idea that there was any kinda of difficulty in doing so. Never the less I think you need to learn what the term = means. When somebody replaces another with ease… they are hardly equal, and in fact, one is clearly superior. No charge this time. By the way... Quan took my Statue long long ago and would never give it back. All I have are pictures of it now 🙁

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Okay so you didn't really read the story then. The plain presentation of the story made it very clear the ease in which Thanos accomplished replacing Eternity. I have no idea where you get this idea that there was any kinda of difficulty in doing so. Never the less I think you need to learn what the term = means. When somebody replaces another with ease… they are hardly equal, and in fact, one is clearly superior. No charge this time. By the way... Quan took my Statue long long ago and would never give it back. All I have are pictures of it now 🙁
Him replacing Eternity doesn't say much for his status on the Cosmic Hierarchy. If he were vastly more powerful than Eternity as you suggest don't you think he'd be gunning for the Living Tribunal's job instead? If Eternity was nothing to him why would replacing him be the pinnacle of his achievement?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Him replacing Eternity doesn't say much for his status on the Cosmic Hierarchy. If he were vastly more powerful than Eternity as you suggest don't you think he'd be gunning for the Living Tribunal's job instead? If Eternity was nothing to him why would replacing him be the pinnacle of his achievement?

So your reasoning is.. that because he only tried to take over Eternity's position that is the most he could've done, or all he ever would've wanted to do. Isn't it possible that he eventually would've tried exactly what you're insinuating. Your using something that someone didn't try and proof that he couldn't or never would? I hope you can see exactly how unsound and illogical that line of thought is. Further… what matters here is one thing… When you easily replace someone's position… you are ABOVE them not EQUAL to them as you alluded. True or false? First lets get you to understand the meaning of = and then we'll work from there 😉 😛

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So your reasoning is.. that because he only tried to take over Eternity's position that is the most he could've done, or all he ever would've wanted to do. Isn't it possible that he eventually would've tried exactly what you're insinuating. Your using something that someone didn't try and proof that he couldn't or never would? I hope you can see exactly how unsound and illogical that line of thought is. Further… what matters here is one thing… When you easily replace someone's position… you are ABOVE them not EQUAL to them as you alluded. True or false? First lets get you to understand the meaning of = and then we'll work from there 😉 😛

His status and scope at the height of his power was equal to Eternity's. He was the embodiment of 616. That's something you cannot argue against. Using a no-limits fallacy doesn't give him feats above that no matter how much you want to.

When Eternity challenged Thanos his challenge was something to the effect of "let us see whose control over reality is greater" which I think translates to "we'll see who's will is stronger". Both control reality, that much was clear, what wasn't clear at that point is which one exerted more absolute control, IE, who's will was stronger.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
His status and scope at the height of his power was equal to Eternity's. He was the embodiment of 616. That's something you cannot argue against. Using a no-limits fallacy doesn't give him feats above that no matter how much you want to.

When Eternity challenged Thanos his challenge was something to the effect of "let us see whose control over reality is greater" which I think translates to "we'll see who's will is stronger". Both control reality, that much was clear, what wasn't clear at that point is which one exerted more absolute control, IE, who's will was stronger.

The one thing you are forgetting is the power of the IG isn't static in the least. We have other showings of the gems which demonstrate a variety of abilities & feats. All of which are possible for Thanos, because as we know, he's one of the best people possible to wield them. It's like me using one feat for the UN and saying that is all that is possible and that is all it did. Forgetting about the multitude of feats the UN has. They are ALL valid feats for the UN as a demonstration of what it can do, just as they are for the IG. Nobody is using a no limit fallacy in the least here.... You brought up the fallacy that he had to only be equal to Eternity and not even close the the LT because he didn't challenge him. Or are you forgetting that terrible fallacy. I never once used a no limit fallacy.. all I did was try and prove a negative and give possibilities to your erroneous line of thought. I guess I should've just pointed it out and left it at that lol.

Further, you again skipped over the part about what = means.. I know you did this because you know you're dead wrong with that statement. Is it that hard to concede that this wasn't the correct word choice to describe them. One was clearly superior than the other, NOT equal. True or not?

Wait, is someone actually trying to equate a later feat with the UN to validate an earlier appearance? That is crazy. All feats only count in succession and progression. Not in a circular reasoning.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The one thing you are forgetting is the power of the IG isn't static in the least. We have other showings of the gems which demonstrate a variety of abilities & feats. All of which are possible for Thanos, because as we know, he's one of the best people possible to wield them. It's like me using one feat for the UN and saying that is all that is possible and that is all it did. Forgetting about the multitude of feats the UN has. They are ALL valid feats for the UN as a demonstration of what it can do, just as they are for the IG. Nobody is using a no limit fallacy in the least here.... You brought up the fallacy that he had to only be equal to Eternity and not even close the the LT because he didn't challenge him. Or are you forgetting that terrible fallacy. I never once used a no limit fallacy.. all I did was try and prove a negative and give possibilities to your erroneous line of thought. I guess I should've just pointed it out and left it at that lol.

Further, you again skipped over the part about what = means.. I know you did this because you know you're dead wrong with that statement. Is it that hard to concede that this wasn't the correct word choice to describe them. One was clearly superior than the other, NOT equal. True or not?


What greater feat can we assume of the IG than taking control of the 616 Universe without heading into no-limits territory? Controlling time and space is nice but just because Thanos can control one Universe doesn't mean he can control ALL Universes as you imply.

You are using a no-limits fallacy when you point to his "many powers" as "proof" that Thanos could do more than what he actually did. For instance Apocalypse has size manipulation powers which he has used to grow to giant heights but that doesn't mean we can project the ability to grow to the size of Exitar when he's done nothing to validate this projection. Same applies here.

So he could have challenged the LT but didn't because he was too dumb/unimaginative to consider it? Cool. Maelstrom was right, Thanos was unsophisticated and dull. 😂

I skipped it because it was tangential. Thanos with the IG was Eternity's equal at the height of his power since both were embodiments of 616. You don't suggest that Thanos's 616 was somehow "bigger and better" than Eternity's simply because you're cockriding ol purple puss, right?

Edit: Oh and this:
http://img217.imageshack.us/f/godhoodyn7.jpg/
"All reality in this sphere", ie. just the 616 Universe. So much for "Thanos beat Multi-Eternity" 😂

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What greater feat can we assume of the IG than taking control of the 616 Universe without heading into no-limits territory? Controlling time and space is nice but just because Thanos can control one Universe doesn't mean he can control ALL Universes as you imply.

You are using a no-limits fallacy when you point to his "many powers" as "proof" that Thanos could do more than what he actually did. For instance Apocalypse has size manipulation powers which he has used to grow to giant heights but that doesn't mean we can project the ability to grow to the size of Exitar when he's done nothing to validate this projection. Same applies here.

So he could have challenged the LT but didn't because he was too dumb/unimaginative to consider it? Cool. Maelstrom was right, Thanos was unsophisticated and dull. 😂

I skipped it because it was tangential. Thanos with the IG was Eternity's equal at the height of his power since both were embodiments of 616. You don't suggest that Thanos's 616 was somehow "bigger and better" than Eternity's simply because you're cockriding ol purple puss, right?

Edit: Oh and this:
http://img217.imageshack.us/f/godhoodyn7.jpg/
"All reality in this sphere", ie. just the 616 Universe. So much for "Thanos beat Multi-Eternity" 😂

You see…. I liked you better when you could concede stuff and be mature about things. You not conceding a point that is painfully obvious, means you have digressed. If they were equal then it would've been alluded to through narration or through depiction with a long drawn out battle of equals. This couldn't be further from the truth. One obviously proved superior and greater than the other in power by easily taking the others place. I could easily dissect your post and further prove your other points wrong or clear up your misstatements of my stance. However, the fact that you stand by your statement, and can't concede a simple point where you're wrong, means there really isn't much further to discuss.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You see…. I liked you better when you could concede stuff and be mature about things. You not conceding a point that is painfully obvious, means you have digressed. If they were equal then it would've been alluded to through narration or through depiction with a long drawn out battle of equals. This couldn't be further from the truth. One obviously proved superior and greater than the other in power by easily taking the others place. I could easily dissect your post and further prove your other points wrong or clear up your misstatements of my stance. However, the fact that you stand by your statement, and can't concede a simple point where you're wrong, means there really isn't much further to discuss.

^And this is a childish attempt at sounding like the bigger man.

I'll concede Thanos was superior to Eternity (not vastly so, though), but that's it, everything else you've said is utter bullshit.

You've yet to prove that he could accomplish anything greater than supplanting Eternity.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ First, I'm arguing with his double-standards. Second, Quasar didn't defeat Maelstrom at that point. Maelstrom's own manifestation of power, the supermassive blackhole that all the Abstracts were watching, was what defeated Maelstrom. By your logic, it's plain as day that Maelstrom was immune to IG's power. On-panel. Not only that, but the IG's omniscience couldn't even perceive who or what Maelstrom was. On-panel. What we saw on-panel was that Maelstrom w/ Anomaly was superior to Thanos w/ IG:

The handbook backed up the story that Maelstrom was superior. He talked smack because he was immune. You asked for handbook verification and opened your mouth wide for it. That uncomfortable feeling in your jaw is your own rhetoric being repeatedly crammed down through your teeth. This is plain English, and frankly, you asked for it:

After all, we all know what you think about your precious handbooks: Why have a problem with it? kinda

I have no double standards and he was defeated because he lost his concentration and was beaten and let's not forget he died and was brought back by Oblivion himself.

He survived one blast and left. If you feel that proves he is superior then there's no hope for you. Thanos and the affects of the ig an an all out battle could defeat Maelstrom as proven later in the cosmos arc when he died.

Now him being confused only means he is outside his radar which doesn't make him superior since far less defeated him twice in the story later on.

Maelstrom thought he was superior but later in the story he was anything but. You can't even understand your own bio and are neglecting how easily he was bested at the end.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
This makes no sense.
Sorry meant LT level.What else would I have meant?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
What greater feat can we assume of the IG than taking control of the 616 Universe without heading into no-limits territory? Controlling time and space is nice but just because Thanos can control one Universe doesn't mean he can control ALL Universes as you imply.

You are using a no-limits fallacy when you point to his "many powers" as "proof" that Thanos could do more than what he actually did. For instance Apocalypse has size manipulation powers which he has used to grow to giant heights but that doesn't mean we can project the ability to grow to the size of Exitar when he's done nothing to validate this projection. Same applies here.

So he could have challenged the LT but didn't because he was too dumb/unimaginative to consider it? Cool. Maelstrom was right, Thanos was unsophisticated and dull. 😂

I skipped it because it was tangential. Thanos with the IG was Eternity's equal at the height of his power since both were embodiments of 616. You don't suggest that Thanos's 616 was somehow "bigger and better" than Eternity's simply because you're cockriding ol purple puss, right?

Edit: Oh and this:
http://img217.imageshack.us/f/godhoodyn7.jpg/
"All reality in this sphere", ie. just the 616 Universe. So much for "Thanos beat Multi-Eternity" 😂

Thanos showed he was well above eternity.I didn't even know that was up for debate.He obviously bested eternity and where you got the idea it was a battle of wills I will never know.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Sorry meant LT level.What else would I have meant? Thanos showed he was well above eternity.I didn't even know that was up for debate.He obviously bested eternity and where you got the idea it was a battle of wills I will never know.
I guess you didn't even read the comic since you have no idea what he is talking about.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I guess you didn't even read the comic since you have no idea what he is talking about.
Your obviously the one that didn't read it because you think warlock didn't kill the abstracts.Read a comic...any comic.It will be your first.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Your obviously the one that didn't read it because you think warlock didn't kill the abstracts.Read a comic...any comic.It will be your first.
Your attempts at humor are funny but not in the same way as you intend.

Who else did warlock kill with the ig iyo?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your attempts at humor are funny but not in the same way as you intend.

Who else did warlock kill with the ig iyo?

It wasn't humor.How would you even get humor from what?

IMO all he did was kill the abstracts in that room - LT.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
It wasn't humor.How would you even get humor from what?

IMO all he did was kill the abstracts in that room - LT.

Which completely goes against his character and the dealings with the ig against the abstracts. You are wrong and Warlock doesn't 'just mindlessly kill when angry so please do a little homework before saying things that don't make a lick of sense.