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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Short simple sentences so you don't get confused:

Shang-Chi has chi.

Chi is a power.

Shang-Chi chi amping makes him enhanced.

Chi is not an extension of fighting technique.

The ability to use chi doesn't make a character more skilled by default.

Shang-Chi "won" a training match.

Training matches and spars are irrelevant.

Short and simple.

Shang isn't enhanced.

Shang uses chi techniques/meditation.

Shang uses his own skill full abilites.

Shang dominated Logan in first class.

You are wrong and I'm starting to think you are always wrong 🙂

Originally posted by Deadline

It was specifically stated in that fight it's Wolverines enhancements that enabled him to win and Shang wasn't expecting him to be that good.

Exactly.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
LOL Daredevil and Batman can amp themselves from there focus and martial art training.

There enhanced and there source is irrelevant.

LOL

Shang Chi is not enhanced and you are wrong again as usual.

Neither Batman nor Daredevil have anywhere near the same level of chi control as Shang-Chi, so again your point is irrelevant.

Shang-Chi can walk on ceilings, tank being punched into orbit, spin fast enough to create a mini tornado, and has aoe chi attacks like the silent scream. He is enhanced. Chi is a power. Do you think Goku is not enhanced because his powers come from chi? Get real.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Short and simple.

Shang isn't enhanced.

Shang uses chi techniques/meditation.

Shang uses his own skill full abilites.

Shang dominated Logan in first class.

You are wrong and I'm starting to think you are always wrong 🙂

😆

When's your comedy network special?

Originally posted by Deadline
It was specifically stated in that fight it's Wolverines enhancements that enabled him to win and Shang wasn't expecting him to be that good.

Any people smart enough to take the panels into consideration along with the narration, will notice none of those "enhancements" came into play.

Wolverine vs. Shang-Chi...

Shang cheapshotted Wolverine. Logan said he was "throwin' down with the best there is". Shang notices his focus and control rivals that of a samurai and that his savagery does not impair him.

Wolverine was simply better.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wolverine vs. Shang-Chi...

Shang cheapshotted Wolverine. Logan said he was "throwin' down with the best there is". Shang notices his focus and control rivals that of a samurai and that his savagery does not impair him.

Wolverine was simply better.

The current argument is about the legitimacy of the First Class "fight" when Wolverine went to Shang-Chi for training. As you well know, training matches and sparing are irrelevant, so Daredevil is trying to say it was a real fight.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Neither Batman nor Daredevil have anywhere near the same level of chi control as Shang-Chi, so again your point is irrelevant.

Shang-Chi can walk on ceilings, tank being punched into orbit, spin fast enough to create a mini tornado, and has aoe chi attacks like the silent scream. He is enhanced. Chi is a power. Do you think Goku is not enhanced because his powers come from chi? Get real.

Big deal on your selective feats. Batman has tanked Lobo shots, stalemate Waid's Karate Kid, taken a blood lust punch from Superman. Bust down doors implied to take cruise missiles. And I'm not even going to start with Daredevil.

Oh my god Batman is enhanced......LOL

See your logic is so postmortem.

Goku is a freaking alien.

You don't know anything......LOL.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Any people smart enough to take the panels into consideration along with the narration, will notice none of those "enhancements" came into play.

Only if your biased and have a love fetish for Wolverine you wouldn't take them into consideration.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The current argument is about the legitimacy of the First Class "fight" when Wolverine went to Shang-Chi for training. As you well know, training matches and sparing are irrelevant, so Daredevil is trying to say it was a real fight.

Ah. Yeah, we can discuss sparrings, but those really shouldn't be used as a crucial evidence to show who's better. Wolverine was parrying his attacks quite efficiently anyway. And he was not the one who used the damn crossbows 😎

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
😆

When's your comedy network special?

To bad your comedy ratings on your network are so high they canceled all the others. 🙂

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Goku is a freaking alien.

Do you think Yamcha is not enhanced because of chi? 😛

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Ah. Yeah, we can discuss sparrings, but those really shouldn't be used as a crucial evidence to show who's better. Wolverine was parrying his attacks quite efficiently anyway. And he was not the one who used the damn crossbows 😎

Efficiently. Shang banged him up and had him dangling over a cliff. That's not efficient.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Do you think Yamcha is not enhanced because of chi? 😛

No because its all skill. In fiction skill can go as far as powers. LOL

This isn't new Stiltman. That's why Kenshiro is a beast man. And its not like Shang or Batman are even remotely there level of skill anyways. Is that what you are suggesting? LOL

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Efficiently. Shang banged him up and had him dangling over a cliff. That's not efficient.

You mean when Logan got overconfident? "Forgive me if I ain't impressed"?

He could have still saved himself by climbing the wall with his claws 😉

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The current argument is about the legitimacy of the First Class "fight" when Wolverine went to Shang-Chi for training. As you well know, training matches and sparing are irrelevant, so Daredevil is trying to say it was a real fight.

I can use your logic and say there second fight Shang was just testing the waters and its clear he was caught off guard by Logans other abilities as he mentions them.

You logic is so amusing and disgusting at the same time.

And lets not forget on how Ironfist treated Logan like a noob. ha

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You mean when Logan got overconfident? "Forgive me if I ain't impressed"?

He could have still saved himself by climbing the wall with his claws 😉

And after he said that he got tagged and then was hanging helplessly over a cliff. Efficient for the win.

He couldn't have climbed if Shang threw him far enough and considering the way he was holding him easily up with one arm. Me thinks he could. So much for you would of could of scenarios.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
And after he said that he got tagged and then was hanging helplessly over a cliff. Efficient for the win.

He couldn't have climbed if Shang threw him far enough and considering the way he was holding him easily up with one arm. Me thinks he could. So much for you would of could of scenarios.

No, he just got knocked down then. Re-read it

Somehow I can't picture him doing that.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Big deal on your selective feats. Batman can tank Lobo shots, stalemate Waid's Karate Kid, take blood lust punch from Superman. Bust down doors implied to take cruise missiles. And I'm not even going to start with Daredevil.

Oh my god Batman is enhanced......LOL

See your logic is so postmortem.

Goku is a freaking alien.

You don't know anything......LOL.

There is a difference between a plot shield, and actually abilities accomplished legitimately with chi. Anyway: I'm fairly certain must of the Batman/Lobo stuff is non canon, the mini, the one shot and the b&w. Batman told Superman that he must have been subconsciously holding back because if he (Clark) wasn't then he (Bruce) would have been dead. 3-Boot Karate Kid is like Karnak-lite, most high end street MA would have decent odds of taking the majority from him.

An alien who's powers comes from chi, but pick Krillin or Yamcha if you'd like because they are both humans who can bust up planets with chi.

Thrown off a cliff had Shang chosen too. 🙂

Shang's a nice guy though.

Logan should be thankful. 🙂