Apocalypse vs Cheetah

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Cheetah is faster than WW. And I don't know about Quickdilver or Makkari being faster than WW in combat speed. Wonder Woman is faster than Superman in Combat speed and he would ***** Makkari and Quicksilver. Cheetah is faster than them all. She's a true DC speedster. I didn't see anything impressive in those scans. Apoc doesn't size manipulate for the hell of it. How is he going to hit her if he's way bigger than her? It would be like someone trying to hit the Atom with Super Speed. Impossible.

Makarri is faster than Superman in combat 😐
Apocalypse can teleport. Her speed ain't doing crap if Apoc decides to teleport high up and start blasting her. Or simply mind rape her. Or matter manipulate her. When Apocalypse grows in size...his strength also grows. He can thunder clap her into orbit.

Originally posted by SuperMan103
what if i add giganta to cheetah's team? would that make it fair?

Not at all. Giganta is only a brute.

She was about to be mindraped by Grodd in FC: Resist. I don't think she would be able to resist Apocalypse if the scan that Tyrant posted is legit.

Originally posted by galactusischere
She was about to be mindraped by Grodd in FC: Resist. I don't think she would be able to resist Apocalypse if the scan that Tyrant posted is legit.

Originally posted by galactusischere
She was about to be mindraped by Grodd in FC: Resist. I don't think she would be able to resist Apocalypse if the scan that Tyrant posted is legit.

Its not legit. There's no evidence for it being anything other than an energy blast that hit Xavier.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
About to? As in didn't happen?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That's a hypothetical and says nothing for Cheetah's TP immunity or lack thereof.

Its not legit. There's no evidence for it being anything other than an energy blast that hit Xavier.

She was obviously vulnerable to Grodd's TP

http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j289/ThreshholdLurker/?action=view&current=FCResistPage020.jpg

Originally posted by galactusischere
She was obviously vulnerable to Grodd's TP

http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j289/ThreshholdLurker/?action=view&current=FCResistPage020.jpg

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That's a hypothetical and says nothing for Cheetah's TP immunity or lack thereof.

Its not legit. There's no evidence for it being anything other than an energy blast that hit Xavier.

How did you conclude that it was an energy blast? It is obviously a psi blast. Apocalypse can and has read minds, has communicated with people from miles away, and has resisted Cerebro/cerebra. It all adds up to Apoc having telepathy. Hell, even Mr Sinister who is basically a weaker version of Apoc has demonstrated his telepathy(which is on par with Xavier and far above Grodd)

Not that it matters. Cheetah would not be able to resist Apocalypse's telekinesis nor energy blasts nor matter manipulation.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
How did you conclude that it was an energy blast? It is obviously a psi blast. Apocalypse can and has read minds, has communicated with people from miles away, and has resisted Cerebro/cerebra. It all adds up to Apoc having telepathy. Hell, even Mr Sinister who is basically a weaker version of Apoc has demonstrated his telepathy(which is on par with Xavier and far above Grodd)

Not that it matters. Cheetah would not be able to resist Apocalypse's telekinesis nor energy blasts nor matter manipulation.

Apoc doesn't have offensive matter manipulation and his TK isn't really that impressive.

He lifted a palace that was buried under desert sand for centuries with a thought without any struggle whatsoever. How is that not impressive?

Did you miss how he turned Ozymandias into stone? He does the same thing to Cheetah....and that was RoA Poccy who hadn't even gained 90% of his powers.

Apocalypse > Mr Sinister in every way
Mr Sinister > Grodd in telepathy
Grodd's telepathy can affect Cheetah...THUS Apocalypse would be able to mindrape her.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Mr Sinister > Grodd in telepathy

based on?

Yeah, Sinister isn't remarkable at all.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Grodd is one of DC's greatest TP villains with way more feats than Apoc.

Also, wasn't he trying to use the anti-life equation on them? Hence the big 'SUBMIT'?

That's a bit different than normal.

Originally posted by Konton
Yeah, Sinister isn't remarkable at all.

oh, that's not what i'm saying. Sinister has some very nice feats. Just wondering what makes him think he's above Grodd.

Originally posted by Q99
Also, wasn't he trying to use the anti-life equation on them? Hence the big 'SUBMIT'?

That's a bit different than normal.

Originally posted by -Pr-
based on?

Based on how he mindraped X-Man and a bunch of other mutants in Onslaught saga.

Originally posted by -Pr-
based on?

He's also been punked by Emma.

Oh, not this shit again.

Mr Sinister actually has some telepathic feats.

Apocalypse has next to none. That one scan Tyrant posted has been debunked before.

Also I would have thought EC posting this:

http://www.formspring.me/TomBrevoort

Q: Is Apocalypse a telepath? I know he's a telekinetic but during the Onslaught Saga he needed Cable to access the astral plane? During X-Factor he needed Baby Cable and a machine. Just wondering.

A: I don't think we've ever indicated that Apocalypse is a telepath.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4834/32256504.jpg

Would have finally got you to give up on the ridiculous idea that Apocalypse is some uber telepath.

He isn't even a telepath.

The matter manipulation bullshit has also been debunked. He didn't turn Ozymandias to stone, Rama-Tut's technology - the knowledge contained within - did.

"The inhuman fury behind the boy's blow sends the General flying into Rama-Tut's unfathomably technology -- unleashing the hidden knowledge of millenia to come -- to deposit it into a receptacle too small and uncomprehending to contain it -- Ozymandias' blistering synapses."

This is what results in Ozymandias' transformation.