Mortal Kombat 9

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http://collider.com/mortal-kombat-legacy-clip/84878/

I am not impressed.

Can see how you wouldn't be, but I agree with Pr that it wasn't bad still... So was that Kano whom Jax/MJW was fighting?

That's the vibe I was getting; Kano.

If that is him, I would really like to see some butterfly knife action at least.

Nightwolf trailer:

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Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Nightwolf trailer:

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sweet. the blonde girl in black leather = sonya, right?

Yep.

Well it's actually dark green.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime Pretty much anyone else. Even Shujinko and Taven caught my interest a lot more than Liu, especially since he just became a mindless zombie at the time those two were the main protagonists.

Shujinko was a bigger Gary Stu than ****ing Starkiller. If anything it shows they'd've been better off bringing Liu Kang back.

Given what I said above, not really. If anything, his soul should be back where it belongs- inside Shang Tsung's body.

And given what I said above, yes really.

Am fine with that, as long as he gets his fair share of victories too, and from what I'm hearing about him fighting Goro at some point in this game, it gives me hope. If this just becomes another Liu Lame wankfest like all the main games before Deadly Alliance were though, I'll be much less interested in the game's story.

You're exagerrating. From a media standpoint, you'd be hard-pressed to see them ever actually putting much emphasis on such plot points as his victories. This IS a fighting game series after all; presenting the story is hardly worth front and center.

I could pretty much care less about the regular Kung Lao, although his ancestor (the Great Kung Lao) was pretty cool, more than Liu Lame anyway.

A pinwheel bladed hat with an immature git doesn't measure up to a dragon-transforming Bruce Lee pastiche that I can at least take with a respectable seriousness. Kung Lao's not even all that special as a perihperal character imho.

That entirely depends on how they execute him in the story. In Deception, he became a direct representative of the Elder Gods, and even before that, he was (in his own way) helping the good guys by hunting down Quan Chi and such. What "side" Scorpion is on is of little importance; it's his actions that mainly define him, making him one of the more interesting and unpredictable characters.

Thus, he's on his own side. He's not exactly doing what he does with the greater good as much of a priority. Don't get me wrong, such motives makes him that much more dynamic

Sexist much? Speaking of Sonya though, her recently shown x-ray move looks pretty awesome.

Defending a woman's portrayal in video games; I don't want to have to bring up Cooking Mama/Final Fantasy X-2/DoAX.

It was a setback in how they brought him back as a zombie and what not. I'll wait until playing the new game's story before deciding on whether or not it was a setback this time, though.

I disagree with that. My only complaint is that they'd long-since ditched such things as his dragon fatality, although word is of course that they're bringing it back. Sure thw whole thing wasn't quite as original nor as intresting as the whole Noob Saibot jazz, and I'm not trying to imply that it was, but in this series, dying is about as big of a setback as spending a few hours at the DMV to renew your driver's license.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Considering Scorpion's the Poster boy of the Studio making the game...ermm

Also, Ridley pretty much said it all.

Liu was fairly good at the beginning, but he was whored out in favour of other, better, characters. Which is why his death in DA was their greatest move ever, apart from of course, making MK9 as awesome as it seems to be (bringing back Liu as a Zombeh screwed up the former).

Being the flasgship character of the series and being the premier good guy of the story are two completely different things. Just because Street Fighter's Ryu happens to be both doesn't mean all the fighting games need their main characters to be such. And hell, Scorpion's status as the enduring flagship MK character shows that whatver "whoring out" they've done with Liu Kang hasn't exactly impeded Scorpion's image or reception over the years, so dont' treat it like it does just for the sake of having an excuse to hate on a character.

i just dont get it why do people hate liu kang so much? i mean he is like any other main hero out there his only flaw is that the developers didnt develop his story at all i dont feel like he is the main guy you never see him as a symbol of mortal kombat or having deep story they gave it to sub zero and scorpion

every fighting game got its own main hero tekken has jin kazama,street fighter got ryu and tekken got liu kang he is the champion the good guy that beats up all the bad ones only thing is he doesnt have any depth because the developers didnt care to develop his character at all

Something about him being "generic". Though I really don't see how he's generic, especially when you compare him to the other Bruce Lee characters in other fighting games.

Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
Shujinko was a bigger Gary Stu than ****ing Starkiller. If anything it shows they'd've been better off bringing Liu Kang back.

Shujinko doesn't really have enough feats to be considered a legit Gary Stu, let alone one like Starkiller... All he did aside from training and go kamidogu hunting for several years was what, beat Onaga? Even if that is Gary Stuism, it was only in one game, where as Liu's Gary Stuism has been prevalent throughout most games in the series. Big difference. 😬 From what I understand too, the only real complaint about Shujinko was just the whole thing with him having those "stolen fighting moves" (and that's mostly from a gameplay perspective), but with the ability he was given at a young age, it makes sense for him to have them.

Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
You're exagerrating. From a media standpoint, you'd be hard-pressed to see them ever actually putting much emphasis on such plot points as his victories. This IS a fighting game series after all; presenting the story is hardly worth front and center.

The way they've been putting more and more emphasis on story in the series over time kinda tells me otherwise. Hell, I heard they're making this new game's story mode (the cutscenes and everything) much longer than MKvsDC's, so that should tell ya quite a bit.

I understand that it's a fighting game series and all, but even by fighting game standards, MK has some deep character backgrounds/connections and mythos behind it, compared to most other fighter franchises at least, but I guess that's a matter of personal opinion.

Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
A pinwheel bladed hat with an immature git doesn't measure up to a dragon-transforming Bruce Lee pastiche that I can at least take with a respectable seriousness. Kung Lao's not even all that special as a perihperal character imho.

Fair enough. Never liked him too much either.

Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
Defending a woman's portrayal in video games; I don't want to have to bring up Cooking Mama/Final Fantasy X-2/DoAX.

lol No need to. I was just sayin'. Not so much as to be defensive about it...

Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
I disagree with that. My only complaint is that they'd long-since ditched such things as his dragon fatality, although word is of course that they're bringing it back. Sure thw whole thing wasn't quite as original nor as intresting as the whole Noob Saibot jazz, and I'm not trying to imply that it was, but in this series, dying is about as big of a setback as spending a few hours at the DMV to renew your driver's license.

That's true, but I just feel the way they brought back Liu (as a zombie) tarnished the character and haven't really been able to look at him the same way again since. There were better ways they could've brought about his eventual resurrection (and not as a deformed corpse), like something to do with the Elder Gods or somethin' (I know that's basically what they did with Scorpion, but still).
Hell, you didn't even get to use Liu's zombie chains during gameplay like how he did in the Armageddon opening scene, how lame is that? I did miss his classic animality all the more, with that said, so hoping you're right that they brought it back.

Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
Being the flasgship character of the series and being the premier good guy of the story are two completely different things. Just because Street Fighter's Ryu happens to be both doesn't mean all the fighting games need their main characters to be such. And hell, Scorpion's status as the enduring flagship MK character shows that whatver "whoring out" they've done with Liu Kang hasn't exactly impeded Scorpion's image or reception over the years, so dont' treat it like it does just for the sake of having an excuse to hate on a character.

Meh. I see where you're coming from, but all and all, I just appreciated how Shujinko and other new protagonists proved that Liu wasn't the end-all-be-all hero of the series. Liu's death in Deadly Alliance kinda made me realize how tired I was of him always being the typical save-the-day guy, so it was an interesting twist to see how other characters in games after Deadly Alliance did the same for awhile, and with the altered timeline of this new game, I'm personally hoping it stays that way (as in Liu not always being the one whose actions decide the whole outcome). It's not so much that I'm a hardcore hater of Liu Kang, but that I feel it would be just too redundant for him to have the main protagonist spotlight all over again, at this point. I understand though if you disagree, and that's fine.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
i dont feel like he is the main guy you never see him as a symbol of mortal kombat or having deep story they gave it to sub zero and scorpion

That's true about the deep story part, but Liu still basically was (or has been) the symbol of Mortal Kombat, as its overall champion, especially in every game that was before Deadly Alliance..

As for them not developing Liu's character, didn't think about it much before, but I guess it is true as well, now that you bring it up. Perhaps that's what's been contributing to me not liking him always being the champ as much as I could be, as well as what makes him come off as being generic to others. mmm After all, they never really have given much insight on what exactly makes Liu the warrior he is, aside from being a direct descendant of the Great Kung Lao...

I am the only one who thinks Johnny Cage is a cute troll.

Not as cute as "Noob" Saibot having the 'troll hammer' as a weapon! (a la MKA)

Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
Being the flasgship character of the series and being the premier good guy of the story are two completely different things. Just because Street Fighter's Ryu happens to be both doesn't mean all the fighting games need their main characters to be such. And hell, Scorpion's status as the enduring flagship MK character shows that whatver "whoring out" they've done with Liu Kang hasn't exactly impeded Scorpion's image or reception over the years, so dont' treat it like it does just for the sake of having an excuse to hate on a character.

When exactly did I state that Scorpion needed to be the 'premier good guy of the story' to replace Liu Kang as the Protagonist, and when exactly did I state that Liu Kang's status as Protagonist tarnished Scorpion's status?
Scorpion may be the the flagship character, but his actions as far as the plot is concerned, do not weigh in nearly as heavily as that of Liu Kang's, at least until DA. Compound this with the fact that Liu Kang's fairly one-dimensional, and it gets pretty aggravating when the overall plot is centered around him.

Actually taking him out of the plot is another matter entirely, and not one I want, seeing as he's as much a part of MK as are Raiden, Shao Kahn, Sub-Zero, etc.

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Alternate costumes?

^ Those must be forms of Cyrax and Sektor before they became cyborgs, or something.

Also, leaked image of Sub-zero from MK Rebirth/Legacy.

http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/116/1160619/MKSub-Blog_1302287212-000.jpg

mmm

There's also a leaked image of a clown doing what looks like a much more violent version of Joker's gun Fatality in MKvsDC.

johny cage was awesome in the Mk days maybe the can revive him??

Originally posted by Quincy
Johnnnnnnny Caggeeeeeeeeeeeeee
was cool in the classic MK days hope they can revive him

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
http://collider.com/mortal-kombat-legacy-clip/84878/

I am not impressed.

NUTSHOT! 😱

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
When exactly did I state that Scorpion needed to be the 'premier good guy of the story' to replace Liu Kang as the Protagonist, and when exactly did I state that Liu Kang's status as Protagonist tarnished Scorpion's status?
Scorpion may be the the flagship character, but his actions as far as the plot is concerned, do not weigh in nearly as heavily as that of Liu Kang's, at least until DA. Compound this with the fact that Liu Kang's fairly one-dimensional, and it gets pretty aggravating when the overall plot is centered around him.

Actually taking him out of the plot is another matter entirely, and not one I want, seeing as he's as much a part of MK as are Raiden, Shao Kahn, Sub-Zero, etc.

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Alternate costumes?

So...

Do Cyrax and Sektor get de-cyborized while Sub-zero gets turn into a cyborg?

DLC most likely

I hate this DLC-costume BS

Damn you Capcom! 😐

They might not be for DLC. They could be unlockable.

Hope so

Re: johny cage was awesome in the Mk days maybe the can revive him??

Originally posted by CHUMZWOLF
was cool in the classic MK days hope they can revive him

Or better yet, make what he does in his movies a reality for him!