Originally posted by marwash22
lulz, i wouldn't go that far.
I would. Most of them can't even survive without air, so destroying the planet they're on, or even just the atmosphere, would take them out. For the rest there's nifty shit like transmutation (which is proven to work on everyone but Vegeto, and even some forms of transmutation would work on him, for example turning half of his body into antimatter)
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I know really.I have seen a lot of thor wanking in the DBZ threads.Now given it is wanking that has a basis and a point but wanking none the less.
It's not really wanking to support your favorite character with facts. 😛
DBZ kind of suffers from wanking in general though.. Either someone argues they can take LT, or they'll argue Wonder Man or Wolverine could kick their arses..
I mean, it's either downplaying the fact they're planet busting speed blitzers, or inflating their abilities to high abstract levels. No real middle ground in the fandoms..
Originally posted by cdtmI never said they were abstract level.Only ones that would be even close is in GT.But thats non canon so no.I don't like to downplay or upplay but I take from all knowledge I know.However I am provided info on thor that seems so unlikely to happen and undone it just seems like wanking.
It's not really wanking to support your favorite character with facts. 😛DBZ kind of suffers from wanking in general though.. Either someone argues they can take LT, or they'll argue Wonder Man or Wolverine could kick their arses..
I mean, it's either downplaying the fact they're planet busting speed blitzers, or inflating their abilities to high abstract levels. No real middle ground in the fandoms..
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So, you ignored the fact you've been blantantly trolling by calling posters names and the like? Nice. And then you attempt to call me a troll? Even better.I'm not doing anything to Mjolnir that hasn't been shown on panel. That's the awesomeness of it. I actually have proof of all the crazy things it has done. Actual on panel directly shown proof. 🙂
Lack of speed? Based on what? He can fly at multiple times the speed of light, and has reacted at the same speeds in combat. And that's without mentioning that he can throw Mjolnir at speeds far greater than that and have it home in and attack in every which direction. All proved and shown on panel.
Basically, you're telling me these characters win based what one character did and the fact that another character is more powerful. In other words, "_____ wins because he's powerful". I show you how and why Thor wins in specific terms.
It's really no contest here.
Again, this is a none fight. What if Cell just completely disappear in front of thor for a long period of time, what is thor going to do? What if Cell, during this fast disappearing movement attack thor with numerous of NUKES but Thor cant even see where the attacks is coming from, what is thor going to do then? What if during all of these disappearing, none seeing attacks, cell hit thor in the back of the head with a distructo disk, what is thor going to do then? Again, this is a none fight. Thor has NEVER faced anyone like a DBZ character and he would get CRUSHED. Again, Thor would be hard pressed to even hit someone like nappa who again was dodging thousands of bullets coming at him and dodging super fast punches coming from both Krillin and Picollo. I want you to show me someone of thor caliber in speed tagging.........tien.
This isnt Gladiator, Wonder Woman, or Hyperion type speed we are talking about here, this is so much more. Hell, goku has moved so fast during the Cell saga that he turned into light.
This is how Cell would treat Thor except Thor wouldnt even be able to see Cell dodging his attacks because Cell would be moving so fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIU1AcSpfn4
And can someone please explain to me how Thor is even TOUCHING Cell when we have on panel showings of Thor not even being able to touch someone MUCH weaker than Cell.
Originally posted by Warlord
speed didn't stop you from giving the win to Thor over Superman though...right?
I always said Superman was faster than Thor and I have also said that Superman would land the first 3 hits on Thor but this isnt Superman that we are talking about, this is someone who is MUCH faster than Superman combat wise. This is someone that has never been tagged by someone that doesnt have super speed. This is someone that has fought at blinding speed for a long period of time. This is someone who is much faster than the Goku that was moving so fast that blast and punches was going through his body.
Superman is fast but he isnt DBZ fast. 90% of the things that has happened to Supes in a comic would NEVER happen to someone with DBZ level of speed.
Originally posted by carver9
I always said Superman was faster than Thor and I have also said that Superman would land the first 3 hits on Thor but this isnt Superman that we are talking about, this is someone who is MUCH faster than Superman combat wise. This is someone that has never been tagged by someone that doesnt have super speed. This is someone that has fought at blinding speed for a long period of time. This is someone who is much faster than the Goku that was moving so fast that blast and punches was going through his body.Superman is fast but he isnt DBZ fast. 90% of the things that has happened to Supes in a comic would NEVER happen to someone with DBZ level of speed.
Speculation much?
Carver seems to have some serious bias for DBZ characters. DBZ characters disappear when they fight... Yu Yu Hakusho character's do that same crap when they fight, but they aren't moving at speeds above lightspeed. C'mon son, be logical. It's already been proven that Thor can both see and react to lightspeed movement, the whole premise that Thor get's speed-blitzed, is invalid.
As far as Superman (at least PC Superman), It's absurd for you to say DBZ characters are faster.
Originally posted by carver9
Again, this is a none fight. What if Cell just completely disappear in front of thor for a long period of time, what is thor going to do? What if Cell, during this fast disappearing movement attack thor with numerous of NUKES but Thor cant even see where the attacks is coming from, what is thor going to do then? What if during all of these disappearing, none seeing attacks, cell hit thor in the back of the head with a distructo disk, what is thor going to do then? Again, this is a none fight. Thor has NEVER faced anyone like a DBZ character and he would get CRUSHED. Again, Thor would be hard pressed to even hit someone like nappa who again was dodging thousands of bullets coming at him and dodging super fast punches coming from both Krillin and Picollo. I want you to show me someone of thor caliber in speed tagging.........tien.This isnt Gladiator, Wonder Woman, or Hyperion type speed we are talking about here, this is so much more. Hell, goku has moved so fast during the Cell saga that he turned into light.
Originally posted by carver9
Again, this is a none fight. What if Cell just completely disappear in front of thor for a long period of time, what is thor going to do? What if Cell, during this fast disappearing movement attack thor with numerous of NUKES but Thor cant even see where the attacks is coming from, what is thor going to do then? What if during all of these disappearing, none seeing attacks, cell hit thor in the back of the head with a distructo disk, what is thor going to do then? Again, this is a none fight. Thor has NEVER faced anyone like a DBZ character and he would get CRUSHED. Again, Thor would be hard pressed to even hit someone like nappa who again was dodging thousands of bullets coming at him and dodging super fast punches coming from both Krillin and Picollo. I want you to show me someone of thor caliber in speed tagging.........tien.This isnt Gladiator, Wonder Woman, or Hyperion type speed we are talking about here, this is so much more. Hell, goku has moved so fast during the Cell saga that he turned into light.
Completely dissapear? As in become invisible or move so fast he can't be seen? Mjolnir has dispelled illusions before and can home in a specific target regardless of Thor can see him or not. Considering that Mjolnir's fight speed when thrown can exceeds speeds far greater than light (it went to the edge of the galaxy and came back within 60 seconds) and manueverability to richochet off walls and strike multiple enemies in a single toss, there is no way that DBZ characters move so fast they can always avoid Mjolnir. Just like they can track Ki, Mjolnir too can track its targets.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir16-Self-GuidanceJIM097.jpg Mjolnir can home in a target.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir22-Self-GuidanceAvengers.jpg Can strike in multiple angles repeatedly.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir116-SpeedWhomtheGodsWoul.jpg Can be thrown at speeds far greater than light and far greater than any DBZ character has ever moved outside of Instant Transmission, which wouldn't matter as Mjolnir would still home in on the target.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir161-AtmosphereAvengersAn.jpg And just for the lulz, Mjolnir escaped from a black hole. So nothing in their arsenal comes close to being able to keep Thor away from his hammer long enough to get the advantage.
And Thor doesn't have to worry about the 60 second rule, either.
And considering Thor has grabbed legitimate super speedsters like Quicksilver, Hermes, has reacted to INSTANT attacks like from the Pheonix's telepathic bolts, has moved faster than what Heimdall could have seen, whose senses pretty much crap on any DBZ character, you're going to tell me that these people are much faster than what he could ever hope to react to? Thor has on panel quantifiable proof of moving FTL through flight-speed, FTB and FTL fight reaction, and the ability to let Mjolnir tag his opponents by homing it in on their location.
Lol at Nappa, though.
And shit, Glads, Wonder Woman, and Hyperion all have speed feats which match or exceed DBZ characters. 😬 So bringing them into this doesn't do much of anything.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankhave you ever watched an episode of DBZ in your life? the fact that you think thor could even SEE a z fighter is hilarious
And shit, Glads, Wonder Woman, and Hyperion all have speed feats which match or exceed DBZ characters. 😬 So bringing them into this doesn't do much of anything.
